erdbeer / fragolina a swiss sativa,lol right swiss maybe, not so sure about the sativa part.
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Arjan's Strawberry Haze
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fredster420
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franco.gh said:The ASH comes from a Swiss sativa crossed with the NL5hazeMist. The Swiss sativa was a very special plant, called by some people "fragolina" (Italian for small strawberry). The NL5haze Mist is the old NL5 (Sensi) crossed with Haze and Kalimist.
Arjan's Strawberry Haze was developed during 1990-2000 (crossing and selection of outstanding mother individual), and finished during the 2001-2003 period (backcrossing selected fast flowering fathers from F1-F2-F3-F4-F5 and bringing them back on the original mother). Seed (feminized) were produced in 2005 from selected mother and commercialized in December 2005-January 2006.
Can you explain RM’s comment about A's Strawberry Haze?
By the way; Welcome to IC & may you & GH's have a long run - ps, Franco = you have handled the $%#$ well so far...keep it up
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ASH Grow Week 4
ASH Grow Week 4
I finally took these out of the flouros and into my cabinet. I have a 4ft X 4ft X 6 foot tall using a 400 watt MH (18 on 6 off) for vegging. I am also running a 4 inch intake fan to pull in air and using a 265 cfm squirrel cage blower to suck out warm air and running that into a carbon filter. I may need to add another 4 inch intake fan but for now, I'll keep things as is. I have 2 - 8 inch oscillating fans which help strengthen the plant and keep small flying insects off of them. So far I have had a few gnats but nothing to worry about. Girls 2 and 4 have separated themselves from 1 and 4 in that they are very stout plants with closer space between internodes. 1 and 4 are a little more stretchy. Per Franco.gh's advice I am going to start at 12-12 at 10 inches. I'll be using a 600 watt hps and using a digital ballast for the first time. After doing a bit of research it seems the Sun System Galaxy is the quality I am looking for. Even with a 6 foot cabinet ceiling, I have to account for a foot of that being for the height of the light and another foot for the height of the 4 gallon square buckets I am using when I repot and go to flower. That leaves me with about 4 feet for plant height. Depending on the stretch I may have to bend them a bit. I sure wish there were another thread out there of someone who has already grown these. It would give me something to work with and what to expect.
I am using Expert Gardener Perfect Mix which they absolutely love. See for yourself. I haven't added any nutes yet but will keep an eye on them. When I need to use nutes I'll be using Earth Juice during veg.
ASH Grow Week 4
I finally took these out of the flouros and into my cabinet. I have a 4ft X 4ft X 6 foot tall using a 400 watt MH (18 on 6 off) for vegging. I am also running a 4 inch intake fan to pull in air and using a 265 cfm squirrel cage blower to suck out warm air and running that into a carbon filter. I may need to add another 4 inch intake fan but for now, I'll keep things as is. I have 2 - 8 inch oscillating fans which help strengthen the plant and keep small flying insects off of them. So far I have had a few gnats but nothing to worry about. Girls 2 and 4 have separated themselves from 1 and 4 in that they are very stout plants with closer space between internodes. 1 and 4 are a little more stretchy. Per Franco.gh's advice I am going to start at 12-12 at 10 inches. I'll be using a 600 watt hps and using a digital ballast for the first time. After doing a bit of research it seems the Sun System Galaxy is the quality I am looking for. Even with a 6 foot cabinet ceiling, I have to account for a foot of that being for the height of the light and another foot for the height of the 4 gallon square buckets I am using when I repot and go to flower. That leaves me with about 4 feet for plant height. Depending on the stretch I may have to bend them a bit. I sure wish there were another thread out there of someone who has already grown these. It would give me something to work with and what to expect.
I am using Expert Gardener Perfect Mix which they absolutely love. See for yourself. I haven't added any nutes yet but will keep an eye on them. When I need to use nutes I'll be using Earth Juice during veg.
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fredster420
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By the way; Welcome to IC & may you & GH's have a long run - ps, Franco = you have handled the $%#$ well so far...keep it up
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fredster420
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You guys are so silly. You can only be too careful with the plant before you are just being too careful. Before they are dry the trics are very difficult to remove. He must not have been roughing the buds up too much. I mean it was those exact buds that won the HTCC this year. And if they were all about the money they wouldn't be growing a strain that takes 14 weeks to flower. Take it easy.
evergreen
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damakkus said:
that "swiss sativa" which is known locally as fragolina, fraise, strawberry or erdbeer. it is a swiss outdoor strain...which has won several swiss-cannabis-cups 2000, 2002 and 2004... (i think i remember something like afghan-skunk, definatly indica-dom cause of swiss outdoor...)
f2 are sold by cannabis-helvetica http://www.cannabis-helvetica.ch/shop/index.php?cat=30
and i think its part of ParadiesSeeds new strain Rox http://www.seedjoint.com/Cannabis_Seeds/Rox.asp
franco.gh said:
franco
franco
hi
i am very shocked to hear that you bought you cup entry from other people because you didnt have enough(i thought you guys were the king of cannabis)also sounds like an excuse for shity bud
also the rest of the weed on the menu was it grown buy the greenhouse because i just got back for new years from amsterdam and went greenhouse and there was not 1 greenhouse weed that was worthy of any money apart from the nyc diesel which was not the best, i am not hating but expressing my opinion of the weed
anyone who goes to the greenhouse should do a smoke report of the bud and let the people know
some real weed
sssdhaze
franco
hi
i am very shocked to hear that you bought you cup entry from other people because you didnt have enough(i thought you guys were the king of cannabis)also sounds like an excuse for shity bud
also the rest of the weed on the menu was it grown buy the greenhouse because i just got back for new years from amsterdam and went greenhouse and there was not 1 greenhouse weed that was worthy of any money apart from the nyc diesel which was not the best, i am not hating but expressing my opinion of the weed
anyone who goes to the greenhouse should do a smoke report of the bud and let the people know
some real weed
sssdhaze
ojd said:
That is a bright light in a dark tunnel my friend.....
People should go to the Green house and post some real reports on what they like or dislike.
Because people should give their opinion, and if it is a negative one it should be helpful. Constructive criticism, backed up by some facts, some evidence and (last but not least) some communication skills, can be very effective.
So, let's get some smokers report!
Peace, Love and THC
g'day gentlemen,....Rez, Franco, and other concerned parties, in particular Reeferman, and Arjan. I invite all of you in a session in chat, at whatever convenience that can be arranged to discuss this and several other pertinant issues. I feel this is the best and possibly only way to talk about these topics,..real time no post edits,...man to man 
Hope everyone is well 
DLB
Hope everyone is well DLBFranco, I'm really on the fence with the Strawberry Haze. I'm really impressed with the Hawaiian Snow and hope to continue that. Would you/could you say that this plant definitely smells or tastes like strawberries? Could you go into a little detail on this? I've ran into herb that uses the strawberry name (strawberry cough, strawberry blonde, etc) but they never have anything strawberry about them. So, yea, that's my question.
@evergreen, you are right about the rox, it is 50% erdbeer(strawberry). also i think more of lucs beans are.
i have some interesting story about the erdbeer. its supposed to be 80% afghani. and not only sativa. well here it is. i got this info from the breeder himself.
""the Erdbeer is an industrial strain bread to flower quickly be moldresistant and machine harvestable ( hance the literaly rock hard buds ). It is said to be bread as a school project at a swiss university to create the perfect swiss industrial ganja. Some seeds somehow got lost."
i first came across this strain in 1999, ever since it was always available as clone only,
i was very impressed about their performance, tried to gather info from the guys who sold the clones. nobody could tell me anything precise about the lineage or breeder.
there remains 1 most stubborn rumor that a hempfreak living with many squatters in a big factorycomplex in zürich, made the original seeds. probably it was never his intention to sell seeds. the squat was shot down by the police. erdbeer was available at a few cloneproducers in the züricharea. erdbeer slowly spread troughout all switzerland beeing available at most hempshops, as clone & dried flower.
"in 2001 i grew a few 100 erdbeers, 1 of them grew out a single male branch pollinating the "freakhermie" and a few other erdbeers. i was lucky enough to harvest these seeds. from these i started my erdbeer crossings.
in 2003 i was testing several diff strains, also planted alot of those "erdbeer#erdbeer"
, they performed way better than the original clone. there was some slight variation, but in general very uniform and no hermies. the very best ones "erdbeer#erdbeer" from seed i pollinated with 3 diff males: purpurea t(owls production), liztiskunk1 and 2.
(btw, the same purpurea t male was used in the same year for magic bud#purp.)
with all crosses i made with original erdbeers, i noticed that the erdbeer genes are very dominant. erdbeer is a small round bush with rockhard nuggets."
The seeds you can buy from cannabis Helvetica might not be the real thing as it says it is a Sativa and doesn’t reveal anything from the breeder….mmmm?
bluehemp has a lovely strain called e-rocket, its a croos between alpine rocket and erdbeer. and this shop is an anti greed seed shop with fair prizes and great quality.
erdbeer in greenhouse
erdbeer x alpine rocket(e-rocket from bluehemp) 35 euros here http://www.hemcy.at/webshope/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.hemcy.at/webshope/index.html
i have some interesting story about the erdbeer. its supposed to be 80% afghani. and not only sativa. well here it is. i got this info from the breeder himself.
""the Erdbeer is an industrial strain bread to flower quickly be moldresistant and machine harvestable ( hance the literaly rock hard buds ). It is said to be bread as a school project at a swiss university to create the perfect swiss industrial ganja. Some seeds somehow got lost."
i first came across this strain in 1999, ever since it was always available as clone only,
i was very impressed about their performance, tried to gather info from the guys who sold the clones. nobody could tell me anything precise about the lineage or breeder.
there remains 1 most stubborn rumor that a hempfreak living with many squatters in a big factorycomplex in zürich, made the original seeds. probably it was never his intention to sell seeds. the squat was shot down by the police. erdbeer was available at a few cloneproducers in the züricharea. erdbeer slowly spread troughout all switzerland beeing available at most hempshops, as clone & dried flower.
"in 2001 i grew a few 100 erdbeers, 1 of them grew out a single male branch pollinating the "freakhermie" and a few other erdbeers. i was lucky enough to harvest these seeds. from these i started my erdbeer crossings.
in 2003 i was testing several diff strains, also planted alot of those "erdbeer#erdbeer"
, they performed way better than the original clone. there was some slight variation, but in general very uniform and no hermies. the very best ones "erdbeer#erdbeer" from seed i pollinated with 3 diff males: purpurea t(owls production), liztiskunk1 and 2.
(btw, the same purpurea t male was used in the same year for magic bud#purp.)
with all crosses i made with original erdbeers, i noticed that the erdbeer genes are very dominant. erdbeer is a small round bush with rockhard nuggets."
The seeds you can buy from cannabis Helvetica might not be the real thing as it says it is a Sativa and doesn’t reveal anything from the breeder….mmmm?
bluehemp has a lovely strain called e-rocket, its a croos between alpine rocket and erdbeer. and this shop is an anti greed seed shop with fair prizes and great quality.
erdbeer in greenhouse
erdbeer x alpine rocket(e-rocket from bluehemp) 35 euros here http://www.hemcy.at/webshope/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.hemcy.at/webshope/index.html
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that alpine rocket is some good shit. highly recomend it for out doors in europe. very tasty strain when grown out or in door.
illKills said:
Interesting point you make here my friend.....
I know exactely what you are talking about. I have spent years looking for real strawberry smell and taste in cannabis. The Arjan's Strawberry Haze is, in my opinion, the closest one. It does smell like strawberries.
Of course the taste after combustion is never as sweet as the smell. But that's a whole different ball-game.
esbe said:erdbeer in greenhouse
erdbeer x alpine rocket(e-rocket from bluehemp) 35 euros here http://www.hemcy.at/webshope/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.hemcy.at/webshope/index.html
Truly nice plants.
Respect
G
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First: welcome franco 
nice to have you here
Ok if you want to hear some... I'll write one for the Strawberry Haze, and one for the "Nyc D. Haze" you're selling in your shop...
I bought 5 grams of the Strawberry Haze last year in the Gh Cs at Waterlooplain. The bagapeal was avarage, the smell delicious strawberrylike creamy, but not a even a hint of the typical Haze-smell, the taste was similiar with a small note of nuts,the High was sativadominant but not hazy-trippy...
My conclusion was: Not a bad herb, but the weed (13,5euro/g) as well as the seeds are much to pricey imo for an avarage sativadom. weed, that has no haze to it at all...
The "Nyc d. haze" bought a frind of mine 2 weeks ago in one of your shops.
The smell was straight Nyc d., as well as the taste, the stone was just a tiny little less indica than an avarage nyc d.... so just another "haze" from Gh Cs that has no haze to it at all...
You see i'm not a satisfied customer of the Gh Cs, in fact i'm disappointet and sure i'm never gonna spend a single euro in one of your shops again...
nice to have you herefranco.gh said:
Ok if you want to hear some... I'll write one for the Strawberry Haze, and one for the "Nyc D. Haze" you're selling in your shop...
I bought 5 grams of the Strawberry Haze last year in the Gh Cs at Waterlooplain. The bagapeal was avarage, the smell delicious strawberrylike creamy, but not a even a hint of the typical Haze-smell, the taste was similiar with a small note of nuts,the High was sativadominant but not hazy-trippy...
My conclusion was: Not a bad herb, but the weed (13,5euro/g) as well as the seeds are much to pricey imo for an avarage sativadom. weed, that has no haze to it at all...
The "Nyc d. haze" bought a frind of mine 2 weeks ago in one of your shops.
The smell was straight Nyc d., as well as the taste, the stone was just a tiny little less indica than an avarage nyc d.... so just another "haze" from Gh Cs that has no haze to it at all...
You see i'm not a satisfied customer of the Gh Cs, in fact i'm disappointet and sure i'm never gonna spend a single euro in one of your shops again...
