Apollo 11 and other Genius Hybrids

[Countryboy]

grew[jw] c99 even recently..
nah just not near enough potency from two choice plants
had also bought the first c99’s off cw way back when..
had one that I got very high for the first joint then no way..

grew A11 f2’s..beautiful high not powerful enoughTOO short lived high

f1’s musta been good

grew dutch flower A trip f1

had one plant that hemied near the end..

still have almost 20 yr old f2’s in have tried before got decent plants

didn’t;t do high numbars

Its amazing how fast yah lose the gold

after f1 imho

I would crawl for that hermi now it was so "cold sweat on forehead euphoria"

tried to" breed "it out..hahah no..I shoulda kept the hermi but things were harder back then

I think finding anything powerful from those genetics is extremely low..

dutch flowers said they liked some atrip better than their genius clone .

dunno who they were...

Now you have me wondering if the hermie in DTHF/C99 was from the Thai or Princess or that super-skunk male he used to start the line.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

Ray Davies told me and possibly posted in my Cinderella thread that Bodhi did have his cut of the c99 and yes it did originally come from Lucas and I believe somewhere on the forums here you can still find Lucas' seed run. He had like 4 packs of the originals from HS with the washers. Ray said he had been trying to get his cut back from Bodhi shortly before he went offline from here again.

Mr Soul had told me after he first returned that Bohdi and a few other people were trying to help him with some things as well most likely that Genius that Soul is using is from Bodhi.

BTW I never had any luck getting the "RD C99 cut". After a year of trying I gave up. Someone supposedly knew Bodhi really well was supposed to ask him about it. But that never happened. When we spoke about it I had a reason to be very hopeful. I really wanted to get it back so I could give it to you. It wasn't a keeper for me due to space. I traditionally waste a lot of my limited space and time trying to find pure sativa keepers.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

Now you have me wondering if the hermie in DTHF/C99 was from the Thai or Princess or that super-skunk male he used to start the line.

It was from the male DTHF. I made few crosses with BG's DTHF male parental stock. The % of progeny he produced with the hermie trait landed him in the compost pile after wasting space on him for 2 years.

 

[Crazy Chester]

Now you have me wondering if the hermie in DTHF/C99 was from the Thai or Princess or that super-skunk male he used to start the line.

I think Soul said the male was a Shiva Skunk that he used - at least to make P50.

 

[Countryboy]

The Bodhi genius cut probably is still around. Can't say for sure I've been out of the game for 3 -4 years.

The Lucas cut of C99 I can't say. Lucas was very cautious, encrypted messages and emails so I don't think he was sharing cuts. When he confirmed that Sly sent me the Genius cut he wanted it. So we exchanged cuts after years of built up trust between us.

I never planned to grow out C99, especially after a close friend and grower grew it out and wasn't impressed. Sly has also sent me an oz. of Princess bud which was good but IMO not great. I was an Apollo 11 fan and a huge Apollo 13 fan. So it was chance to give C99 a few runs without starting from seed.

For a little background I got to know Mr Soul at cannabis.com when Uncle Ben was the moderator. before Richard started cannabisworld. After 10 years I came back the whole online growers gene pool seemed to shitted up with unstable poly hybrids and auto flower crap. The good old days when a group of us were working to preserve genetics. Shanti sent us some old Nevil crosses that were ever marketed. OT1 sent us some really old haze seeds, we got some old flying dutchman Thai and anon and I were working on the Vietnamese black line that got mixed reviews on the cBay auction.

You've been around longer than I have! I liked Lucas. We watched whales from his porch. Our falling out was I didn't encrypt an innocuous message. He also passed out my 'cellophane' cut of DTC99 and it came with HEAVY strings...The Lucas formula should be called the 'pH' formula, they made the spread-sheet.

Don't know about his cut, but the Ray Davies' was a 'sport'. Most didn't grow like that.

Small world, I used the OT1 method of mothers for years and I got some Sly crosses from an auction he ran. Sly did some back-breeding on WW, at least that's what I can tell from the numbers, .50, .75, .88...

Oh, @Crazy Chester, Dutch Flowers was over-rated. I've still got some of their 'mass-produced' beans.

 

[Countryboy]

Snowhigh too, I think. Also, some past seed makers like Three Little Birds and Jojorizo, who both bought a pack of Blowfish from Dutch Flowers (for big $$) and made reasonably priced F2s available (I bought and grew 3lb's offering of seeds made from the "berry" pheno of Blowfish - which was one of several outstanding phenos they found in their F1 pack and offered as F2 seeds). I know most here only have my word on how outstanding Blowfish was, but dammit - it was great - and only something like 11 packs of seeds were produced and offered by Dutch Flowers!

I trolled the 3lbs RELENTLESSLY on pg. Imagine SELLING seeds to patients?! I got in touch with Steve Tuck, got heri beans, made a seed run and GAVE those beans out anyone who would send me an addy. They called me a 'well-known troll' on their web-site. I wore it as a badge of honor.

 

[Countryboy]

I think Soul said the male was a Shiva Skunk that he used - at least to make P50.

I stand corrected, sir. I knew it was a skunk hybrid.

 

[Crazy Chester]

Oh, @Crazy Chester, Dutch Flowers was over-rated. I've still got some of their 'mass-produced' beans.

I only grew F2s of Blowfish by Three Little Birds - one great grow from seeds I ordered myself directly from Heaven's Stairway back in the day and one terrible grow recently (if the seeds that had been passed through multiple hands that recently made their way to me really were Blowfish F2s from Three Little Birds). Before my recent Blowfish grow, I'd have disagreed with you - now, I tend to agree with you on that - at least as to Blowfish - I don't know about the others that originated with Dutch Flowers.

 

[Crazy Chester]

I trolled the 3lbs RELENTLESSLY on pg. Imagine SELLING seeds to patients?! I got in touch with Steve Tuck, got heri beans, made a seed run and GAVE those beans out anyone who would send me an addy. They called me a 'well-known troll' on their web-site. I wore it as a badge of honor.

Now that's so old school.

But, to be fair, 3LB are said to have paid a pretty penny back then for the original Dutch Flowers seeds, so I can see them wanting to recoup some of that money - but, I don't know why they'd troll you for giving away Herijuana seeds that they had nothing to do with.

 

[LostTribe]

I stand corrected, sir. I knew it was a skunk hybrid.

“I wanted to "cube" Princess but add a little beef to her branches because the buds were always too heavy at harvest and branches needed staking to keep from flopping over. I crossed my ShivaSkunk female with one of the males from the same group of seeds that Princess came from. THIS cross produced a male which was then crossed to Princess, creating "P.50" (using a shorthand notation I developed to indicate the fraction of Princess genes in the cross).”

The Shiva Skunk was the female. The male from the same batch of seeds that Princess was found which he referred to as Bro on CW.

 

[Crazy Chester]

“I wanted to "cube" Princess but add a little beef to her branches because the buds were always too heavy at harvest and branches needed staking to keep from flopping over. I crossed my ShivaSkunk female with one of the males from the same group of seeds that Princess came from. THIS cross produced a male which was then crossed to Princess, creating "P.50" (using a shorthand notation I developed to indicate the fraction of Princess genes in the cross).”

The Shiva Skunk was the female. The male from the same batch of seeds that Princess was found which he referred to as Bro on CW.

I can always rely on you to correct me when I get something wrong about what Soul said - you're absolutely right - he said he used a male popped from the original coffee shop seeds that Princess, Genius and Cafe Girl popped from to produce the Shiva Skunk cross male he used to cube with. Don't remember whether he said he lost or tossed that male from the coffee shop seeds.

 

[Countryboy]

Now that's so old school.

But, to be fair, 3LB are said to have paid a pretty penny back then for the original Dutch Flowers seeds, so I can see them wanting to recoup some of that money - but, I don't know why they'd troll you for giving away Herijuana seeds that they had nothing to do with.

They where getting $50 a pack off those seeds.
'to be fair':

 

[Crazy Chester]

They where getting $50 a pack off those seeds.
'to be fair':

And I was happy for them to get my $50 - that pack popped absolute fire.

Not so much on the seeds I got for free.

 

[Countryboy]

And I was happy for them to get my $50 - that pack popped absolute fire.

Not so much on the seeds I got for free.

Did you get some from me? My step-son still pops them and it's nice stony pot. A little airy but he uses LEDs, not that I blame him.

 

[Crazy Chester]

Did you get some from me? My step-son still pops them and it's nice stony pot. A little airy but he uses LEDs, not that I blame him.

No, the ones I grew recently weren't from you - not unless you were above Nebu in the chain of custody. I got them from another old-timer here.

 

[Countryboy]

I'll wrap this up with some pix. The 28/33 crosses are Sly 1-off's from his WW back-breeding experiment.
Those are A11's in original packaging along with 'my' A11's. Ray, under a different handle, gave me the idea, genius x C99 F1's Soul always said it, 'bred true'.
Plenty of A11/C99 F2's. Oh, that pack you can barely read is 'royal mix'. That's where the males in that bud Soul found wound up. Some of the A11 F2's are from JJJ. Sent him a pack of A11's, he sent back cuts and beans. A stand-up guy:

 

[Countryboy]

No, the ones I grew recently weren't from you - not unless you were above Nebu in the chain of custody. I got them from another old-timer here.

Nebu of black...damn it, can't remember...

 

[Crazy Chester]

Nebu of black...damn it, can't remember...

He was on Canna Cabana I believe.

 

[Countryboy]

I remember Nebu from OG. He had a beautiful avatar.
I was at the cabana from the beginning. Skitty took away my handle cause I made a joke about fucking his dead mother.
Kephra/harpo had a thread bumped of him growing out 'my' A11's, if ya care to look.

 

[Crazy Chester]

I remember Nebu from OG. He had a beautiful avatar.
I was at the cabana from the beginning. Skitty took away my handle cause I made a joke about fucking his dead mother.
Kephra/harpo had a thread bumped of him growing out 'my' A11's, if ya care to look.

I have had no experience with canna cabana - but, I think the connection my source had to the seeds may have been from there.

CORRECTION - I got it mixed up - I was told Nebu was the source of some Apollo 13 seeds that my source for the Blowfish seeds also gave to me - I think they're F3s.

My source said the Blowfish seeds he got straight from 3LB.

Now that you mention the avatar - OG may have been the source of my recognition of Nebu's name. I only followed posts on OG, CW and here back in the day (early to mid 2000s).