ANYTHING OUTDOOR 2022 EVERYWHERE

[revegeta666]

Weren't you in the middle of a pure indica project? Breeding a line fully outdoors is something I would like to try as well in the future, I have been thinking about a 100% indica coincidentally. Especially since I saw this summer your little hashplant patch in the middle of the woods. Numbers is what worries me a little bit though. Indoors I don't really care about the number of plants but outdoors I would have to keep things more stealthy. How do you manage your timing for a little patch like that? Do you start them late?

 

[pipeline]

I guess I'm not quite ready for that yet, still toying with this cultivar. I like that its an early finisher and acclimated pretty well to the environment, so my original thinking was hybridize DC with my line, so thats the final decision for 2023.....today.

That would be a great project to hybridize a few sources of indica into 1 line choosing the most indica stock.

My goals are basically to have a productive line for this climate, with some special terps from my sativa candy chunk line. Needs to be an early finisher at late Sept early Oct.

Some of the plants have an intermediate density which is less prone to mold, so hopefully will be able to see some mold resistance carry though. I like a good mix of phenotypes though, since weather may be good like this year. Got some of the most dense flower this year!

 

[pipeline]

So besides Deep Chunk (50-60 ct) (21 ct CSI Humbolt/30+ ct Deep Chunk 2008) and Sativa Candy Chunk (several phenos and mixture) 70 ct) it will be these lines:

Pine Tar Kush IBL (CSI Huboldt) x 5 ct
Sour bubble F2 - 5 ct
BC Pinewarp (Texada Timewarp x Purple Pineberry)-5ct
Peach Ozz x Lebanese 5 ct

Turn 'em loose.....

 

[pipeline]

@revegeta666 "Weren't you in the middle of a pure indica project? Breeding a line fully outdoors is something I would like to try as well in the future, I have been thinking about a 100% indica coincidentally. Especially since I saw this summer your little hashplant patch in the middle of the woods. Numbers is what worries me a little bit though. Indoors I don't really care about the number of plants but outdoors I would have to keep things more stealthy. How do you manage your timing for a little patch like that? Do you start them late?"


Not really late, but at the normal time. I plant seed some time in April usually the earlier part, right before last expected frost date so they can grow in the sun outside. I bring them in at night and set out in the morning if temps are going to be around 50 or less. Seedlings get transplanted early to mid May when they have momentum going usually as 2-3 leaf set seedlings with leaves about 2 inches long.

They don't get 10-20 ft tall because the light is limited to partial shade. Its pretty stealthy being limited to a 15' x 10' area. Plants form a canopy and they blend right in.

Not all seeds planted will become mature plants. Plant extra so you can take out mutants, runts, and less desirable phenos, as well as the males you aren't using for the project.

 

[revegeta666]

@revegeta666 "Weren't you in the middle of a pure indica project? Breeding a line fully outdoors is something I would like to try as well in the future, I have been thinking about a 100% indica coincidentally. Especially since I saw this summer your little hashplant patch in the middle of the woods. Numbers is what worries me a little bit though. Indoors I don't really care about the number of plants but outdoors I would have to keep things more stealthy. How do you manage your timing for a little patch like that? Do you start them late?"


Not really late, but at the normal time. I plant seed some time in April usually the earlier part, right before last expected frost date so they can grow in the sun outside. I bring them in at night and set out in the morning if temps are going to be around 50 or less. Seedlings get transplanted early to mid May when they have momentum going usually as 2-3 leaf set seedlings with leaves about 2 inches long.

They don't get 10-20 ft tall because the light is limited to partial shade. Its pretty stealthy being limited to a 15' x 10' area. Plants form a canopy and they blend right in.

Not all seeds planted will become mature plants. Plant extra so you can take out mutants, runts, and less desirable phenos, as well as the males you aren't using for the project.

That looks really cool haha and they do blend in very well. Now you mention the lack of light, if I remember correctly the Deep Chunk was bred to be productive in low light conditions. Looking forward to see how it does in your growspace.

 

[pipeline]

Yeah Tom Hill talks about that on The Potcast a little bit. They produced under the Manznita trees. Yeah my breeder has prescreened these for shade performance!

My line has DC in it of course, which is likely why it does so well.

 

[laszlokovacs]

red hot cookies

hows the red hot cookies doing outside? Im guessing its early on in the growing season on the other side of the world? I was gonna grow out a seedling last year but I got lyme from setting up my garden and let it die right after it sprouted.. sounds like an interesting cross but I have a lot of stuff I'd rather pop first at the moment especially for outdoor

 

[budsnblunts]

hows the red hot cookies doing outside? Im guessing its early on in the growing season on the other side of the world? I was gonna grow out a seedling last year but I got lyme from setting up my garden and let it die right after it sprouted.. sounds like an interesting cross but I have a lot of stuff I'd rather pop first at the moment especially for outdoor

Hey man they all seem to go straight to flower, I had a really purple pheno but it was really hard to clone. One out of twenty would roughly survive. Really sweet, lolly smelling stuff though.

 

[laszlokovacs]

Really sweet, lolly smelling stuff though.

Thanks for the pic man, nice looking stuff, any red show up at all or just straight green/lavender/purple? Good that they flower early i guess, makes them all the more worthwhile to run I just have a prejudice about a lot of the european seed companies... but you clearly grew some good bud so maybe i should smoke my words

 

[budsnblunts]

Thanks for the pic man, nice looking stuff, any red show up at all or just straight green/lavender/purple? Good that they flower early i guess, makes them all the more worthwhile to run I just have a prejudice about a lot of the european seed companies... but you clearly grew some good bud so maybe i should smoke my words

There was heaps about them being hermaphrodite. That one wasn't but a mate had a bad run. No reds, mostly greens with the one purple exception. Mediocre smoke in the way of strength but interesting all the same.

 

[pipeline]

Who is the breeder of that one?

 

[pipeline]

You have to know what to expect with a line, the little autoflowers can get shaded out if they're in the wrong spot. I don't think its early flowering like in the late summer, a portion of them are autos.

 

[laszlokovacs]

There was heaps about them being hermaphrodite. That one wasn't but a mate had a bad run. No reds, mostly greens with the one purple exception. Mediocre smoke in the way of strength but interesting all the same.

lol thanks for the honesty... not terribly surprising, ran a ton of lines bred for the outdoors and they all kicked ass, gonna stick with that for sure- maybe stick the red hot cookies somewhere rural and feed once or twice some time but doesn't sound worth growing outdoors from what your saying

 

[laszlokovacs]

Who is the breeder of that one?

sweet s33ds

 

[40degsouth]

Hey everyone, l hope you’re all well.
A couple of photos of the Forbidden Fruit x Lambrusco aka “Wham Wams” from Mr Bradley Danks. The big sativa leaner is seven feet tall now and is preflowering hard, the nodes are starting to tighten up and looks like it’s transitioned straight to flower. If it has it’s the quickest plant I’ve ever seen do this and it’s also two weeks earlier than any plant I’ve ever seen. So what this means is, the explosive vegetative growth was actually stretch.
On this trajectory it will be well and truly done by the end of March/September, as per the breeding goals.

I even culled out earlier phenos that went to flower, after being soaked around the end of September. We’ll see what happens.
The other one is just under seven feet and has slowed down so it’s probably transitioning into flower also, in a more “normal” way.
Finally an Ancient OGF5, planted as a 150mm clone on the 27th of November. They did transition into a bit of flower even after being hardened off for a couple of weeks. This slowed them down slightly but they’re off now and this one is 600mm, or two feet, tall.
I’m aiming for a manageable 10 feet tall and 12 feet wide, so we’ll see just how good l am at guesstimating what these plants can do.
Cheers 40.

 

[pipeline]

The Forbidden Fruit x Lambrusko is really branchy! Glad to hear its flowering early like its supposed to. So the other ones of that hybrid autoflowered, or did they not get hardened off correctly? Would be a great hybrid for the northern growers who need early finishers!

Ancient OG looks like its about to do its thing, but you probably only have about 2 maybe 3 weeks of stretch left is that right?

Sweet Seeds, haven't heard of those guys, are they in the southern hemisphere? Cookies may be pretty good, but its not going to be the best cultivar available.

 

[Mitsuharu]

@pipeline

They are from spain and well known in the european cannabis scene.

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[pipeline]

Oh cool, its a vender! I guess I've seen that banner before, but forgot the name. Thanks!

 

[40degsouth]

Hey Pipeline.
I popped about a dozen of the Wham Wams a week before the new moon in September. This is when l pop all my seed starts and this is the first time I’ve had starts flower, from seed, from this date. The two big girls didn’t do this and so made it to the garden, as did the males that were culled.
What this says to me is there are plants in the line that will probably be finished before the end of September/March without any auto flowering genetics, they just need to be soaked a couple of weeks later in October/April.
This is a new line (f1) and I’m sure Bradley will steer the populations into more refined lines with predictable finishing times. Bradley’s a bit in love with this cross and is particularly excited for me to test it as l am for him.
It would also be a nice plant for growers looking for a staggered harvest.
As for the AOG it’s still got about a month of veg and then the Triffid stretch. This particular plant is the “sour apple” pheno and had a really robust structure rather than long, lanky, vine like branching that needed a lot of support.
Cheers,
40

 

[pipeline]

Would it be usual for a standard line to flower if being put out that early?

I think seedlings are more flexible if the daylight is lengthening and its fairly close to vegetative photoperiod. Must have been warm out. If I remember right, there were herb seedlings emerging in March in my lawn. They were growing alright, but eventually got mowed.

Was it warm enough and they were outside the entire time or were they brought inside at night?

Thats a pretty common being done the end of september (56-60 days), but its on the early side for sure. Thats when my line ripens as well as the Deep Chunk. Its great to have them ripen that early, anything slower I end up culling. The later they have to ripen, the more chance for cool rainy weather or frost.

So thats the F1, look out, may find some dandy plants in that F2 stage! Grow out as many as possible, thats where you find phenotypes outside the range of the parents.