You have an opinion on Lighthouse seeds? They have a NL5xNL2 but no idea on the stock it came from. Heard it's legit though.
If NL2 (or any NL) has thai in it - its because of the hawaiian used to make NL.
Hawaiian lines are Mexi x Affy and Thai x Affy. Ten they are Bx’ed to either parent. Blood is Thai x Affy x Thai. Maui Wowie is Mexi x Affy x Affy.
I follow Hemphill. Not Kagyu. And I don't really follow any of them
I just know Hemphill/Coastal had the NL1 hybrids with Romulan, Skelly, Black Domina, UK Cheese, and some others. Don't know anything about $500 seeds pack ect.
I just want old Super Sativa Seed Club/Nevils/BOEL/Duke Diamond VA genetics. DD VA also has some SSSC genetics. That's my ONLY motivation.
I also know I aint perfect, and will gladly admit when I am wrong.
That's all I care about vs Coastal seeds.
I just like those genetics
Hemphills dad/ or grandfather whatever had some of the best Pitbulls lines there were, and still are. I also like PBs, and have had them most of my 60 years. I also had no idea he was related to THE BOB HEMPHILL/PB BREEDER,a nd I stilldont know if its his dad, or grandfather. Id say GF.
BOEL also has Thai, and is what The ONE, and Blue Orca are.
Ive got all kinds of Swami/COOT/BOEL genetics, and am currently running Blue Orca Haze, and Blue Orca x RKS Uruapan, NL5/Hz
Been running the BOH for over a year, and it is super potent.
I know about BOEL.
Ive never heard the Nature Farm guy be really spiritual, and he for sure doesn't hang out with biker gangs. The Sk18 came from the Hells Angels, but he aint 1 of them, and hes not hanging with them.
Master Thai was Uncle Festers Nephew,,, and Fester was a HA and is where the original genes came from. U Mello got the genes from MT, who was ripping off, and lying to the nor cal community, so U Mello open pollenated the original stuff from MT, and let the genes out.
But I don't know why you would say I like Kagu, when Ive never met him, am in east. ky, and have no connection to any of them.
I just want these old genetics, and I could give a crap who has them, as long as they are real, and available, Im going to buy as many as possible.
Feds got over $5000 of my old Nevil/SSSC seeds in the 90s, and Ive not been able to find them, or close, until now.
But it does get old when people think Im friends, or know then, or am shilling for them, when I couldn't pick the mother fuckers out of a line up.
Great pics/info!!! Always love to see old photos.
I remember all that stuff. Ive been messing with weed since I was 8 years old in 1966.
I had over $5000 worth of seeds from Nevil/SSSC/Sensi when the feds got all of it in 1997. I had almost everything they had x3. 3+ packs of all the main strains I wanted, and in some cases 10 packs.
I had 15 packs of the Nevils Hashplant. PNW/HP x NL1 x PNW/HP x F2 NL1/PNW/HP Male
The Coastal Puck Yeah is exactly the same cross Nevil made before he backcrossed to the PNW mom again.
The only reason I suggest these, and others is for the simple fact, if they are the real shit, they are some of the best genetics 1 could hope for. Especially for breeding.
When I got out of federal prison 6+ years later, ( Almost 8 supervised release to go ) ALL of these original genes were all but gone. Everything Ive bought since has been subpar vs these old genetics. Probably the best stuff I found when I got out was the Serious AK47, Sensi NL5, and now those are gone, and the AK47 while really, really, really good, wasn't as good as the original 90s version. And so far vs more modern genetics. The early 2000's AK47 x NL5 we have kills everything Ive smoked since Ive been out of prison in 2009. The AK/NL5 cross is also devastating.
Got a violation in 2006, and did 3 more years of the supervised release back in federal prison. Got out, and have been searching ever since.
But the only reason I recommend some of these breeders is because of the genetics they have.
I don't know any of them, couldn't pick any of them out of a line up, and have 0 ideas about their personal lives, and when people come here dogging them, it doesn't change my experiences. I just want the genetics, and if someone cant understand that, they'll just have to live with it, as they aint my mommy, and if all they an do is disparage someone, its usually in 1 ear, and out the other.
I saw them do the same thing to Gascanastan/Swami, and Clackamas COOT, whos been growing shit longer that most here have been alive, so they quit all the forums becasue of attacks from no nothings.
I also find it hilarious that some that live in other countries other than USA try and tell me there wasnt any Sk in Ky in the early/mid 70s, which is so full of shit, its really not worth the response.
How can someone in a different country, whos also probably 20+ years younger than me, tell me there was no skunk then??
Especially when the SSSC Catalog ( 1984 ) clearly states that Sk1 was worked on for 10 years+ ( Since 74 ) before it made it to Holland, And what made it to Holland had by then, already had a lot of the Sk genetics Culled, and bred out of it, and that also takes time.
How many generations to breed the stink out of it??? Id say at lest a good 5-6 generations, at that rate, and considering there was NO HID being used, they were basically relegated to 1 harvest/cull a year, which even if it was 4 years, and would take it back to 1970.
The only reason I suggest these, and others is for the simple fact, IF they are the real shit, they are some of the best genetics 1 could hope for. Especially for breeding.
The Nature Farm had a video of his 89 cut, before it was taken down.
Swami... Gascnastan also has the Original cut from 1985. FACT/VERIFIED.
Youre 100% incorrect about it not being around. Doesn't matter to me who believes it or not.
Seeds( Hybrids ) of it will also be available from Swami in the fall of the 1985 NL5 x NL5/Hz.
He bred it to the LTD ED Nevills 88 NL5/Hz.
Its got the biggest leaves Ive ever seen.
But whether you want to believe it or not, its well know, and verified all kinds of people have the orginal NL5 1985 cut. Yep. No Boubts about it.
And its not Northern Light. Its Northern Light #5. Northern Light is more like an NL1/NL2, and is not NL5.
Its also very, very east to keep it alive, as you can TISSUE CULTURE IT.
EVER HEAR OF TISSUE CULTURE????
Swamis cuts are verified, and are well known amongst the community. The ONE/Blue Orca are all over 30 years old. VERIFIED.
Theres also a lot of confusion amongst the big breeders becaue many lost their genetics, and try and disparage others, who do have the original genetics.
Most all of the genetics in Hollad originated in USA, so it makes no sense to think its not still around, and it is.
Check out these leaves.
85 NL5/88 NL5/Hz. Nevils LTD ED 88 release.
Checkout these leaves.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkwIQOehItF/?taken-by=swamiseed_ig
You seem like a nice guy...you just gotta watch out who you listen too now days.Most of em got a butcher knife and a tube of lipstick in their pockets. They see a back they stab it they see an ass they kiss it. Then next thing you know they are selling your shit telling a pack of lies.
SSSC had some good stuff. I worked in Saudi in the 80s stayed in the Dam a lot. Hardly nobody went in those coffee shops back then.The Bull dog was the most popular coffee shop. There wasn't many.I hung out at City Lights the only coffee shop to sell booze.
I think 88 or 89 was when I bought seeds in the Dam from SSSC.When I quit working in Saudi I would call them and my seeds would be mailed to me from inside the US.
I bought Skunk#1 and Williams Wonder. At that time SSSC had just come out w SK#1.They didn't have NL etc.. yet. The SK#1 was very good much better than Williams Wonder.Strong up hi very stinky.Williams Wonder wasn't anything special at all...the NL I got out of Washington State was way better so was the SK#1.
The NL in the PNW from Indian Jim the breeder was NL#1 indica NL#2 was crossed w Thai. The Dams was different their NL#2 was indica and #5 crossed w thai.
88 or 89
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I grew a NL#2 cross and made fems for classic w it. I had asked him for a indica for a friend he send Jack Frost x NL. The plants had thinner leaves than Amnesia...then he remembered it was Jack Frost/Thai x NL#2(NL#1 x Thai).
I S1 a pheno that was a super Thai hi flyer like taking speed and done in 9-10wks. I hit a really nice Chem Dog w the fem pollen as well and called that cross Rude Dog. It's like Chem Dog on steroids. They sold out on FS w repeat costumers...too bad classic never got paid.
Urban Menace -
jack frost x thai X indian jims N.lights #2My good friend Texas Jack tested some crosses I made with Jack Frost x Fast Thai X Indian Jims northern Lights # 2 which is the #1 crossed to Thai from the old sticks in the 70's .It turned out very nice and he made me a batch of femmed seeds from this cross from the plant he like the most with a wired high and no ceiling. He wanted it named " Urban Menace " so that's what its called I am not big on names but since he did the work for me what the hell its Urban Menace.
I have one finishing up out doors and it will be done in a few more days so out doors its done in the first week of October, thanks to all the Thai in it there are no mold issues I found here on the Oregon coast it grows like Christmas tree with lots of nice sticky buddys on all the branches. Indoors its 8 - 10 weeks to fully mature this is a sturdy plant and did not need any support and had a high brack to leaf count. Thanks for your time and space helping me out Jack your what friends are all about sharing the tasks to lighten the load. Even if I had 3 of me I would never be able to do it all. There is just to much to do for some one who is getting old and feeling the years.
Rude Dog
"Rude Dog" "Urban Menace" x Chem Dog.Heres the low down on RD ( Classic Jack Frost x Classics fast Thai x Indian Jims Northern lights #2 ) X Chem Dog. Its a sturdy plant with hard buds that does have some couch lock the other alone is missing totally ,if strong pot is not your thing this one definitely is not for you its crazy strong. So if you have any mental issues or need to feel in control you want to avoid this stain like the plague. If on the other hand you enjoy tripping through the cosmos and enjoy feeling lost in space and watching the mind-boggling adventure hidden inside your head unfold while everything around you seems to be misplaced and lost to memory in the present moment, your going to enjoy the ride.
Its 8 - 10 weeks indoors and done by early October outdoors watch for mold if its wet the last week or two before harvest but it did fine here on the coast of Oregon this year .This is another one Texas Jack did for me and I want to thank him for his help getting these first fems out to everyone. There are a lot more in the pipeline at my end now that I found the time to do them finally so enjoy but use with caution.
not always a bad thing.....but come on!