You have an opinion on Lighthouse seeds? They have a NL5xNL2 but no idea on the stock it came from. Heard it's legit though.
I dig what they are doing.
Very respectable as well -- not into fucking over hardworking breeders
You have an opinion on Lighthouse seeds? They have a NL5xNL2 but no idea on the stock it came from. Heard it's legit though.
To bad Im broke. Even though I got 10 packs, Id be up for another or 2.
Ive also been wondering what happened to The Nature Farms Instagram page?
Fermentation Taste Tester @thenaturefarm has been gone now for 3-4 days.
Its curious because a guy ( TROLL ) came on RIU, and jumped into a conversation about TNF another member had started, and started talking about how U Mello/TNF... stole many genetics, beat his wife, and me being me, called him out on it for a few back, and forths, and U Mello... TNF PERSONcame on there and set his shit straight, and gave a bunch of people for references that he supposedly stole cuts from ect, and the guy... The guys moniker is Whytewidow.
But the next day, The Nature Farms site was GONE. There is a naturefarmgenetics page, but it is not U Mellos, its just people growing TNF Seeds, and showing results. But its not U Mello.
Sucks, but it seems someone complained to Instagram about him, and its curious we got into a back, and forth, U Mello came there, set the record 10000% Straight, the guy never replied back, and the next day, the site is completely gone.
Ive heard they are cracking down on grow photos ect, and if someone really complained about a specific individual, I can see how they could get shut down.
Its a shame people come on threads spreading lies ect. It really doesn't make sense. Im sure they are really happy in their lives, and with themselves. Its surely a character defect.
And not saying Ive never lied, wont ever lie again ect, but flat out BS lies, Ive NEVER done that. Ive never lied on anyone. Im married to a Filipina woman, and she holds honesty, loyalty, trust worthy to the highest regards, and if I had been a rumor monger/liar, she would never had anything to do with me.
The guy had 100's of photos of some really nice plants, and now its all gone, because of a rat/liar.
Gonna be hard to keep up with future drops, and he has some coming I really want. More than Ill have money for. But I want Hashplant, and Sk18 crosses. These can be KILLER to use as MALES.Im really interested in the Nepali HP x Sk18, and now the Menu is Gone, and was listed on the Instagram page.
A LOT of breeders have said OGs are Chem 91 S1s. It’s not bullshit if you believe it, and a lot of people think that’s where OGs come from.
Thanks brotherman great INFO -- instead of shit slinging you offer something I can learn from.Nature Farm Sk18 is NOT a Pure RKS line, and he states as much. He is also trying to more isolate the RKS pheno, but not bottleneck the genetic diversity.
He went through over 400 plants.. M/Fs, to find the very few he wanted to use to try and more isolate the pheno. But not at the expense of genetic diversity. If you followed him, you would know, and you can see every plant, and description hes gong to use in the project.
I simply don't see how he could be any more transparent???
He alsohas the Open Pollination Line, that is nt concerned with isolating the RKS. Hes trying, NOT CLAIMING.
Just like Duke Diamond VA.... He trying too, and I buy his stuff to. Going to start the Local Skunk, and a pack of the UF Sk18 in a few weeks.
1 buddy already went through 3 packs of the UF Sk18, and found a really close 1 as to what 1 would call dead skunk, but most will qualify for skunk spray at the least, and can be smelled down the block if you aint got it contained.
My buddy has it in his concrete basement, and you can smell it out in the yard.
He also has his stuff Phylos Tested to see what it is, and what relatives it may have, of which it has 0000000 Relatives, which Should also Confirm 1 Piece of the Puzzle that the claims it is an OLD STRAIN STAND UP, as it has 00000 Modern Relatives. As in NONE. NADA.
How many strains I wonder can Phylos test, and have 0000, Relatives????? This means it has 000000 modern genetics of any kind, way, shape, or form. So it IS UNMOLESTED from the Modern Gene Pool, which for me, is a HUGE ++++, and should be for anyone wanting to add more vigor/breeding..adding non related genetic material. If its potent, which it is. Its a Win/Win for Breeding.
TNF does not to claim to have RKS, only that there are phenos to be found, but you have to search. It took him 400+ plants to find 4-5 M/F plants that had the traits he was looking for.
Even the 80s Super Sativa Seed Club M9... Sk1.... had to be searched through to find any kind of RKS. It was in the 1984 catalog. M9
Then they bred Thai into it as if you look at the description on Leafy, and Sensi Seeds, you will see they advertise theirs as having Thai in it.
They could also be mistaken, but the Sk18, has 0000 Thai in it.
UF Sk18 has No Such Outcross, and was what was probably used to start breeding the RKS out of it. Maybe not, but its well known Skunkman culled all the RKS/REEK out of it, and outcrossed it for more floral scents.
Sk18 is Before the cross. Sk 18 is Columbian Red/Gold x Acapulco Gold x Mazar I Shariff. No Thai
The Nature Farm Guy is also not the only 1 claiming to be finding some RKS phenos. You may have to search, and Instagram wont let you copy/paste, or I would show grows from others way removed from U Mello, that are finding old school Skunk, and like I said, I could care less if its dead on RKS, as long as it is unmistakenly REEK/SKUNK, eye burning funk.BUt some are reporting RKS phenos.
And even though Elmer Bud and I have squabbles ( I do think he can have good info, but we agree to disagree is how I look at it )
If Im right, he believes the Sk18 may be the line that was stressed tested for stability, and vigor, and is what preceded Sk1.
I believe what we mostly disagree about is the age/origin, and ratman…
But I can tell you I was buying all of this stuff when it first came out in the catalogs,a nd advertised in HT in 84 I believe it was. The stuff was also sent from Santa Barbra Ca. NOT HOLLAND. Cali post mark. So that stuff was inside USA. You sent cash to Holland.
Duke Diamod VA also has a Mother Plant called Pole Cat... Is that a Skunk???
Clackamas COOT has had an original RKS pheno since 1985.
There is also Nothing really Sweet about Sk18 from what I can tell. Its chemical acrid funk, garlic onions, skunk spray, cat piss, with a hint of flowers.
But all in all TNF does not say it is an RKS line, as there NEVR has been a pure RKS line. EVER.
Its also not worth arguing over about whether RKS started in the 80s, as it was already stabilized when ratman brought it to Holland in the early 80s. so that tells ya, it had already had to have been worked, and stabilized, and that takes many generations, and they really werent using HID then. It was the beginning of HID in 1978. I was there. Got the 1st bulb. Came from the Nuclear Sub program, where they were growing veggies in the sub to be more self sufficient.
But the bulb Halide, was really fragile, and they wouldnt Warranty the Shipping. Then 4-5 months later a new more rugged light came out called the Super Nova 1000w. They also had the Octagarden.
I also had the original Isomerizer from 1974, and got caugh making oil by my uncle in my bedroom when I was 16.
Smoke my 1st weed in 1966.
To tell me I didnt see Skunk in the early 70s is uneducated. Grew my 1st plant in 1971. Not Skunk. Oaxacan... Got busted for weed when I was 13 in 71. Started in 66 with my older sisters boyfriend. He was 15.
Hey Elmer???
Any way you know of to get any of the SSSC gear? Ive seen their place on Facebook, and nobodys posted in almost a year, and the site on the net says be back soon since last year.
Any Info???
Duke Diamond VA worked with Bros Grimm, and also uses SSSC/Sk1 in many of his crosses.
Ive got several varieties that use a male Skelly/HP x SSSC Sk
Have 6 packs each of these.
Dominion Skunk
Chem91 va/SSSC x Skelly/SSSC Sk1
Granny Sk
VA Afghani x Skelly/SSSC Sk1
Sis Skunk
Chems Sis x Skelly/SSSC Sk1
Local Skunk
Original Diesel/Cuddlefish HP x Rez Sour Diesel IBL x Skelly/SSC Sk1
The Local Sk was a 150 pack drop, and they lasted about 10 hours. Ive been offered $400 for a pack.
Someone had the Capital G at Auction at Seed O Holics and it went for over $1000 a pack, and the Local, is the best of all of them. Capital G was a big hit at Emeral Cup, and the Local is supposed to be better.
Gave a pack of the Granny to a buddy, and theyre looking, and smelling grea. Theyre a month and a half right nowfrom seed.
Will start 1 pack of the Local, and 1 pack of the Sk18 in 2-3 weeks.
I most humbly submit...is this unheard of? I just ran 91 for the first time earlier this year and I could see this being true. I smoked a nug I hid on myself a few days ago and wondered which OG it was when I found and smoked it...them remembered, oh yeah, thats 91...
Yeah I'm really squeezing my brain trying to decide what breeder's NL line I want to get. I have a friend who wants to make rso and said I'd order a pack of NL5 for him. Of course I want to be able to enjoy them as well. Currently trying to decide between their NL BLVD f3's and Dr Atomic's NL. Wish Mel's was still available...
I was told he used to be kinda nice but once he got cancer he went for the money. It shows.
I just want old Super Sativa Seed Club/Nevils/BOEL/Duke Diamond VA genetics. DD VA also has some SSSC genetics. That's my ONLY motivation.
I just like those genetics
Hemphills dad/ or grandfather whatever had some of the best Pitbulls lines there were, and still are. I also like PBs, and have had them most of my 60 years. I also had no idea he was related to THE BOB HEMPHILL/PB BREEDER,a nd I stilldont know if its his dad, or grandfather. Id say GF.
Ive got all kinds of Swami/COOT/BOEL genetics, and am currently running Blue Orca Haze, and Blue Orca x RKS Uruapan, NL5/Hz
Bodhi also released some NL redux/throwbacks
The BO x RKS we have going were started late, and so far, look killer.
1 of them has a great structure. As many branches as Ive ever seen on a plant, though at this point the plant is only just starting the 1st hints of budding. The stem rub is also high octane. Really nice terpene smell. Has a Gassy, Fuel sweet smell, with skunk overtones.
It really stretches in flowering, and the side branching is prolific. Very typical Christmas Tree Mexican Sativa structure. Would be huge if started early, and looks like the buds will be very long, and dense. Huge on a really big plant. I plan on taking this 1 inside after its done, and reveg it, if it turns out as good as its looking now.
My PBs are mainly Carver.
Sounds like you had some good dogs too.
Boudreaux had a PB that coholds the world record for a pit fight.
5 hours 23 minutes, only 3 turns, and both dogs lived as both owners decided to throw in the towels. 1st turn didn't come until 3 hours in.
Swami says there is RKS to be found in all of the RKS Hybrids. Purple Zebra may have the most. BO x RKS is probably the earliest outside.
RKS never was a stabilized line. Only 1 of many phenotype to be found.
Swamis RKS Male is a hybrid of a 1985 RKS Female clone they took to Michoacán and hybridized it for 30+ years, and it still doesn't throw a majority of RKS phenos.
People on Instagram, and other places are finding RKS phenotypes in these lines with the RKS/Michoacán Male but there are also many plants that are very rank skunk, but there are several phenotypes to be found.
The Nature Farm also has RKS cuts, and is trying to incorporate into a more consistent rank type phenos
Im also not speaking of his Sk18 either. He says for RKS he has better plants vs the Sk18, but the Sk18 is the original genetics to Skunk. Sk18 does have RKS, they are just not common.
Nature farm has old Super Skunk cuts, Black Domina, PNW Hashplant, Lebanese HP, Nepali HP, 89 NL5, 84 NL5, 1979 Romulan, and a whole shit load of others , but just doesn't have them in seed form. Nature Farm guy has more elite cuts that Ive ever seen anyone have, and he posts them. He says he has over 200, and access to many more.
He supplied the 1995 Black Domina cut that won last years 2017 Humboldt Cup, and is also the same cut he supplied to Bob Hemphill of Coastal Seeds/EQgenetics. TNF also supplied them with the original 79 Romulan cut.
Dominion Seed Company is also on the hunt for stabilizing an RKS line, and have many phenos that reek like a MoFo of rotten skunk, and garlic, and onions.
The mother of the Dominion Skunk is called. POLECAT. Just sayin???
All I can tell you is also of this stuff reeks like none other of skunk, and rank funk. It may not be 100% RKS, but I can promise you, it can be smelled all the way down the block if you don't take precautions, and it is NOT a Sweet Floral Smell.