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The recent invention of cannabis botany is a scam

foomar

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"Cannabis is a c3 softwood, short-day plant, and is grown accordingly."

So are spinach, peanuts, cotton, wheat, rice, barley , chrysanthemum, rice, soybean, onions , African violets , christmas cactii and poinsettia.
Research on any individual species was apparently unescessary as they apparantly all grow the same.
 

Old Piney

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There is no cannabis botany. Just botany. The recent invention of cannabis botany is a tool to exploit the cattle, it's a marketing strategy to get you to spend more money on products than you would need to. It's also there to create problems in your grow which you need more products to correct. In the end you have mediocre weed, and are dependant like slaves on corporate seed banks.

Cannabis is a c3 softwood, short-day plant, and is grown accordingly. The plant is unique, just as any other plant, but its environment it developed in (the earth) is not special to cannabis alone, but to all plant life.

You dont have to be the cattle.
I have to agree somewhat and disagree. I agree there is a lot of scamming out there but there he been plenty of invention specific to cannabis. For instance. The breading THC dominant auto flower, high CBD, and all kinds of other cannabinoids also feminised seeds. So this was my Bible back in the day none of this was around back when Clarke wrote the book, that's copyright 1981 it a nice read I still recommend it !
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Prs2xs

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I have to agree somewhat and disagree. I agree there is a lot of scamming out there but there he been plenty of invention specific to cannabis. For instance. The breading THC dominant auto flower, high CBD, and all kinds of other cannabinoids also feminised seeds. So this was my Bible back in the day none of this was around back when Clarke wrote the book, that's copyright 1981 it a nice read I still recommend it ! View attachment 19107020
I still have my original copy of that too! I would like to add ( in reference to the original premise of this thread) that I don't care for the direction the cannabis industry has taken - this plant can grow very well almost on it's own - no special fertilizer or snake oils to make the plant into something it isn't.
When I start reading about all the different aromas and flavours that someone gets from their plant(s) I have to quit reading. At one point in my growing career (almost 50 yrs now) I was interested in all the new stuff that came available for growing cannabis, but I have found that providing the minimum requirements for growth (with regard to fertilizer) produces the best pot.
Imho, treat the plant for what it is-a C3 short day plant, and let it express itself for what it is. The characteristics of each different cultivar will become evident by way of the difference in effect , not whether it smells or tastes like roasted lamb or some other B......t description.
There are a lot of people getting rich off of selling products that aren't needed, and although there are some honourable people still out there, there are a lot that have learned they can prey on those who are easily suggestible , to sell products that are unnecessary.
For the average home grower, all that is needed is a decent light, clean soil (free of bugs), good h2o, and a good general fertilizer, something like 5-3-5, or 12-5-9 etc, for the entire grow. The commercial end of the industry will naturally go more scientific , to try and get bigger yield etc to get more profit, but I believe that is the reason for homogeneity and bland characteristics of the high.
Sorry for ranting, this is just the opinion of a simple minded old guy (me)!
 

RequiredUsername

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I still have my original copy of that too! I would like to add ( in reference to the original premise of this thread) that I don't care for the direction the cannabis industry has taken - this plant can grow very well almost on it's own - no special fertilizer or snake oils to make the plant into something it isn't.
When I start reading about all the different aromas and flavours that someone gets from their plant(s) I have to quit reading. At one point in my growing career (almost 50 yrs now) I was interested in all the new stuff that came available for growing cannabis, but I have found that providing the minimum requirements for growth (with regard to fertilizer) produces the best pot.
Imho, treat the plant for what it is-a C3 short day plant, and let it express itself for what it is. The characteristics of each different cultivar will become evident by way of the difference in effect , not whether it smells or tastes like roasted lamb or some other B......t description.
There are a lot of people getting rich off of selling products that aren't needed, and although there are some honourable people still out there, there are a lot that have learned they can prey on those who are easily suggestible , to sell products that are unnecessary.
For the average home grower, all that is needed is a decent light, clean soil (free of bugs), good h2o, and a good general fertilizer, something like 5-3-5, or 12-5-9 etc, for the entire grow. The commercial end of the industry will naturally go more scientific , to try and get bigger yield etc to get more profit, but I believe that is the reason for homogeneity and bland characteristics of the high.
Sorry for ranting, this is just the opinion of a simple minded old guy (me)!
No apologies necessary. Your voice counts, and your experience gives you authority. My cannabis and houseplant fertilizer is running low. Time to get more.
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We all know how those big pulpy tasteless tomatoes at the market. There is your future of cannabis. Breeding for the grower, profit, not for the end user, or quality. Big empty weed with all its energy reduced to focus on size and one compound. THC. Cannabis has many complex interactions of many compounds. This combination of variables makes up the specifics of the effects on the user.
 
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Old Piney

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I still have my original copy of that too! I would like to add ( in reference to the original premise of this thread) that I don't care for the direction the cannabis industry has taken - this plant can grow very well almost on it's own - no special fertilizer or snake oils to make the plant into something it isn't.
When I start reading about all the different aromas and flavours that someone gets from their plant(s) I have to quit reading. At one point in my growing career (almost 50 yrs now) I was interested in all the new stuff that came available for growing cannabis, but I have found that providing the minimum requirements for growth (with regard to fertilizer) produces the best pot.
Imho, treat the plant for what it is-a C3 short day plant, and let it express itself for what it is. The characteristics of each different cultivar will become evident by way of the difference in effect , not whether it smells or tastes like roasted lamb or some other B......t description.
There are a lot of people getting rich off of selling products that aren't needed, and although there are some honourable people still out there, there are a lot that have learned they can prey on those who are easily suggestible , to sell products that are unnecessary.
For the average home grower, all that is needed is a decent light, clean soil (free of bugs), good h2o, and a good general fertilizer, something like 5-3-5, or 12-5-9 etc, for the entire grow. The commercial end of the industry will naturally go more scientific , to try and get bigger yield etc to get more profit, but I believe that is the reason for homogeneity and bland characteristics of the high.
Sorry for ranting, this is just the opinion of a simple minded old guy (me)!
I use manure from my chickens compost from my wood pile ,worm castings also from my wood pile , ashes from my stove and sometimes a little lime You got about five years on me with growing
 
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