any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

[TNewell753]

V + B does work extremely well. You guys will all bash on me for having very few posts but that's only because I don't have countless hours to argue with all the haters every time I try and actually share my experiences. Ive gone from the lucas formula with my own additives, to V + B, tried house & garden and wasn't impressed at all (didn't like the pgrs and foxtails it caused, not to mention the price wasn't worth it), back to V + B and have actually just started a side by side with aptus nutrients.

The truth of the matter is that V + B is a very simple product to use and it can produce some amazing results on its own, but even better if you add a few things to it. Ive always had great success adding protekt throughout and the hammerhead/MOAB combo in weeks 5-7 of flower.

I also started using V + B because I wanted to use an auto watering system and heard it would work quite well. I can say through experience that after about 18 months running the mix above through blumats I have had no issues with clogged drippers.

Like a lot of people have said its "to each their own". It seems like a lot of the haters just don't want to accept that a one part powder can produce the same, if not better, results than all their shiny bottles that they carefully measure out and feel like scientists lol.

That's my rant for the month, take it for what its worth. Ill keep ya posted on my aptus vs V + B experiment.

 

[max 6699]

V + B does work extremely well. You guys will all bash on me for having very few posts but that's only because I don't have countless hours to argue with all the haters every time I try and actually share my experiences. Ive gone from the lucas formula with my own additives, to V + B, tried house & garden and wasn't impressed at all (didn't like the pgrs and foxtails it caused, not to mention the price wasn't worth it), back to V + B and have actually just started a side by side with aptus nutrients.

The truth of the matter is that V + B is a very simple product to use and it can produce some amazing results on its own, but even better if you add a few things to it. Ive always had great success adding protekt throughout and the hammerhead/MOAB combo in weeks 5-7 of flower.

I also started using V + B because I wanted to use an auto watering system and heard it would work quite well. I can say through experience that after about 18 months running the mix above through blumats I have had no issues with clogged drippers.

Like a lot of people have said its "to each their own". It seems like a lot of the haters just don't want to accept that a one part powder can produce the same, if not better, results than all their shiny bottles that they carefully measure out and feel like scientists lol.

That's my rant for the month, take it for what its worth. Ill keep ya posted on my aptus vs V + B experiment.

thanks for the post it's nice to see people being objective. I have no dog in the fight as far as advertising goes, I have though had amazing results with V&B, all I think, is why all the hate here, as I have said before just leave if you are so upset~~

 

[RicoT]

And my point is further proven and remains... Capitalization on this community(whether it works or not) in an unethical way. We're all here to learn from each other... But sprinkled in are "companies" made from mom's basements posting pictures of perfection and linking it to their homemade shit. What's stopping this guy from just being fucking honest is my gripe! Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

If that's cool with everyone here... And you all feel it adds to the community so be it... The seed depow is where anyone worth any knowledge has already gone anyway.

This site is going to shit from when it began... As a refuge for overgrow members.
Not to mention this fucking "nute" market.
Let's truly not mention peoples "private" messages even being gone through by admin. Google it even. But this is the last straw. You'd think the admin would be more in touch with these boards, especially someone taking money right outta their pockets.

My advice to any new grower viewing this thread: don't start or finish your growing career from here. It gets better.. Organic and The********* and you're set. Much more credible heads over there.

LMAO... Censors da seed deepow what a fucking coincidence.

 

[max 6699]

And my point is further proven and remains... Capitalization on this community(whether it works or not) in an unethical way. We're all here to learn from each other... But sprinkled in are "companies" made from mom's basements posting pictures of perfection and linking it to their homemade shit. What's stopping this guy from just being fucking honest is my gripe! Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

If that's cool with everyone here... And you all feel it adds to the community so be it... The seed depow is where anyone worth any knowledge has already gone anyway.

This site is going to shit from when it began... As a refuge for overgrow members.
Not to mention this fucking "nute" market.
Let's truly not mention peoples "private" messages even being gone through by admin. Google it even. But this is the last straw. You'd think the admin would be more in touch with these boards, especially someone taking money right outta their pockets.

My advice to any new grower viewing this thread: don't start or finish your growing career from here. It gets better.. Organic and The********* and you're set. Much more credible heads over there.

LMAO... Censors da seed deepow what a fucking coincidence.

this made absolutely no sense what so ever~~

 

[ICbuds]

V + B does work extremely well. You guys will all bash on me for having very few posts but that's only because I don't have countless hours to argue with all the haters every time I try and actually share my experiences. Ive gone from the lucas formula with my own additives, to V + B, tried house & garden and wasn't impressed at all (didn't like the pgrs and foxtails it caused, not to mention the price wasn't worth it), back to V + B and have actually just started a side by side with aptus nutrients.

The truth of the matter is that V + B is a very simple product to use and it can produce some amazing results on its own, but even better if you add a few things to it. Ive always had great success adding protekt throughout and the hammerhead/MOAB combo in weeks 5-7 of flower.

I also started using V + B because I wanted to use an auto watering system and heard it would work quite well. I can say through experience that after about 18 months running the mix above through blumats I have had no issues with clogged drippers.

Like a lot of people have said its "to each their own". It seems like a lot of the haters just don't want to accept that a one part powder can produce the same, if not better, results than all their shiny bottles that they carefully measure out and feel like scientists lol.

That's my rant for the month, take it for what its worth. Ill keep ya posted on my aptus vs V + B experiment.

I can't wait to hear about your results. How much hammerhead/moab are you using in weeks 5-7?

 

[TNewell753]

week 5- 5 ml hammerhead per gal
week 6- 2.5 ml hammerhead per gal, 1 tsp moab per 5 gal
week 7- 2 tsp moab per 5 gal

 

[ICbuds]

week 5- 5 ml hammerhead per gal
week 6- 2.5 ml hammerhead per gal, 1 tsp moab per 5 gal
week 7- 2 tsp moab per 5 gal

thanks. How does that affect your EC? do you add the Veg+Bloom before or after?

 

[TNewell753]

keep your same EC. So yea, add the v + b afterwards

 

[dansbuds]

I bought another 5lb soft water formula ..... the water was so fuked up when i moved here & didn't jive with the V&B so i went back to canna , but i really miss the results & simplicity of the V&B , that & i made a ton of changes in my water filtration system sense then , that i just have to try it again & see if i get the same problems as before . it worked when i hand fed , but didn't work in the rez's . the phospherous would fall out of suspention & settle in the bottom of my rez . & it totally fuked up 1 whole round in flower .
i really hope with all the new filtration that it works like it used to .

 

[Medium Pimpin']

I am now using the dirty at 2 spots, both hydro applications.
I'm only a few weeks in (3) at the other spot and growth and small budsets look great so far.
No real drift on the ph like they stated, pretty rock solid so far.
Fed around 900-950 and looking lush.
E&f w/ hydroton.

My usual spot is using dirty and +life in a recycling waterfarm setup! only about a week in. Fed about 750 right now.

I also have a 2x2 tray with the tap formula going right now, 1 plant.
My rom's ssh mom went in after mad cuts and weaves thru a scrog screen.

Real easy fert man, irregardless of all the drama that goes around these boards with this feet company.
It's KISS on roids brah!!

 

[Tropical Rain]

And my point is further proven and remains...

RicoT, It is better to leave the thread alone.
Anyone who is interested in this product will surely read through the whole thread.
It has been stated many times over and over what has happened.

I believe it to be unfair and selfish to keep badgering the few guys who have found success with this product (not including the shills).

No sense in pulling the thread further off topic when these guys continue to try to move forward after the first few derails.

To continue would amount to nothing more then trolling.

I ran multiple containers of samples of the soft water & RO formula. (ORIGINAL)
As well as the Dirty. (NOW).

If It wasn't against TOU I would have made a particular post in thread long ago.

Best to as well as only being fair .... leave these guys (being actual users) alone.

Myself, I'd like to see whats Dans next run with this stuff will be like ....

Furthermore ADMIN/MOD/MENTORS have been in and post within this thread ....... Just under a different handle.

Goodluck guys.

TR

 

[dansbuds]

Myself, I'd like to see whats Dans next run with this stuff will be like ....

Me too !!! you know i'll give results ... good or bad . I'm not here to push ANY product .... i'm here to get the best results i can in my garden !!!


& thank you for your not continuing to negate this product & thread !!!

 

[ICbuds]

.... i'm here to get the best results i can in my garden !!!

I like the RO for veg but I would have gone with the Dirty for flower brother,damn gold. With the +life holy shit.. watch out

 

[ICbuds]

 

[dansbuds]

I can't brother .... i'm running rez's & when i mixed the dirty it came out to a perfect 5.8 PH .... but was back up to 6.5 the next day & i'm NOT using that much PH down everyday , thats crazyness .

 

[ICbuds]

I use a reservoir too. I have to drop the pH twice a week running Dirty and +life. I used their new flowering additive, +SIZE, on this last run and the pH was solid.

 

[dansbuds]

Hmmmmm

 

[ICbuds]

I've let it swing as high as 6.3 with no problems. I'm thinking about trying coco. What brand do you use?

 

[dansbuds]

canna 5l bags .... its good clean coco , no flushing or precharging needed . mother earth coco is pretty good too & a little cheaper .

killer buds IC

 

[jayjayfrank]

GoldLabel Coco

does the +Size have a label? know whats in it?