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Another school shooting
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I guess that we could keep this thread open as the go-to thread on school shootings..
The title of the thread 'Another School Shooting' can pertain to many such shootings, so it will suffice, and also prevent there from being a new thread on a different shooting every week.....sadly.
If we can keep the partisan politics and ad hominem attacks off the thread and try and keep it on topic, that would help also.
The title of the thread 'Another School Shooting' can pertain to many such shootings, so it will suffice, and also prevent there from being a new thread on a different shooting every week.....sadly.
If we can keep the partisan politics and ad hominem attacks off the thread and try and keep it on topic, that would help also.
Hermen_eutics
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‘Breitbart’ Refusing To Release Names Of Mass Shooting Victims In Order To Prevent Them From Getting Attention
Yesterday 1:29pm
LOS ANGELES—Far-right media outlet Breitbart News refused Monday to release the names of the 10 dead and 13 wounded in the Santa Fe High School mass shooting, saying that doing so would only give the victims exactly what they wanted. “We’re not going to give these victims the satisfaction of seeing their names and photographs published—in fact, that would just be playing right into their hands,” said editor-in-chief Alexander Mason Marlow, insisting that as a matter of journalistic principle, Breitbart News does not publish information on mass shooting victims as it simply serves to provide them with a platform to spread their vile beliefs. “After an atrocity like this, the media often digs up everything it can on the victims and they become household names. We here at Breitbart can proudly say that we will never give these types of people a voice. We especially don’t want to have a bunch of copycat victims out there on the national stage pushing the same delusional agenda.” At press time, Breitbart’s homepage featured a poignant 1,500 word write-up about the Santa Fe shooter and his struggles with mental health.
‘This Is Exactly What They Want,’ Reports Organization
https://www.theonion.com/breitbart-refusing-to-release-names-of-mass-shooting-1826201255
we might need a separate thread for Waffle House shootings?...I expect that to go 1000 pages 
i remember colombine, the morning of, hearing about those kids, i was about to be a freshman in high school...
sandy hook..thats a day i wont forget
I think kids and schools are targeted partly bc its an easy target, young kids in a vulnerable place, a place of learning.
The more this happens the more parents will teach their kids to be vigilant at school, not just to and from school. And this may not be a bad thing but it will have repercussions ect...i can see more and more kids being bullied bc they 'may' act strange to others...and then things will get so bad schools will start preemptively flagging kids who are simply troubled/confused. (not to say this doesnt happen now, but usually its a long history of the childs behavior from young, or a lack of attention in classes that lands them in 'special ed' i.e. the weirdo group according to most young school kids..or it lands them in secondary ed schools)
We need more mental health conversation in this country, the stigma attached is still very real in most red states...even with their purported love of God and their fellow man, and this countries well being
sandy hook..thats a day i wont forget
I think kids and schools are targeted partly bc its an easy target, young kids in a vulnerable place, a place of learning.
The more this happens the more parents will teach their kids to be vigilant at school, not just to and from school. And this may not be a bad thing but it will have repercussions ect...i can see more and more kids being bullied bc they 'may' act strange to others...and then things will get so bad schools will start preemptively flagging kids who are simply troubled/confused. (not to say this doesnt happen now, but usually its a long history of the childs behavior from young, or a lack of attention in classes that lands them in 'special ed' i.e. the weirdo group according to most young school kids..or it lands them in secondary ed schools)
We need more mental health conversation in this country, the stigma attached is still very real in most red states...even with their purported love of God and their fellow man, and this countries well being
Sounds backwards to me, kinda like the whole subject of this thread really.
Maybe these active shooters are part of some social engineering wing of the totalitarianistic neo nazi world government, eroding our rights like a frog in a slowly boiling pan, via a problem reaction solution rhetoric. .
we're number 1, we're number 1!
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xavier7995
Sounds backwards to me, kinda like the whole subject of this thread really.
Maybe these active shooters are part of some social engineering wing of the totalitarianistic neo nazi world government, eroding our rights like a frog in a slowly boiling pan, via a problem reaction solution rhetoric. .
Sir....its from the onion. It is correctly defined as fake news, aka satire.
lol
The Problem With CNN’s School Shooting Count
Stephen Gutowski
CNN has been promoting its latest count of school shootings in the aftermath of Friday's tragedy in Santa Fe, Texas. But most of the included incidents bear no resemblance to that attack. While the news organization has not released details behind the incidents included in its report that 288 school shootings have occurred in the United States since 2009, it has detailed its count of 22 for this year. Their standard includes any incident where anyone was injured in any way anywhere on school grounds for any school from kindergarten to college.
It is similar to the standard created by gun-control group Everytown for Gun Safety, which many media outlets have repeated. The main difference appears to be that CNN only counts incidents that result in some sort of injury to somebody other than the person who pulled the trigger.
It includes shootings where neither the shooter nor the victims were students or faculty at the school. It includes accidental shootings. It even includes an incident where one student was bruised after being shot with a BB gun.
If CNN's list of school shootings is limited to incidents where a student is either the victim or perpetrator of a shooting by an actual gun on school grounds, only 12* of the 22 incidents would qualify. Of those 12 incidents, 9 happened at K-12 schools and 3 happened at universities. Most of those 12 do not closely resemble the shootings in Sante Fe or Parkland. Most were targeted attacks on a single victim or did not result in serious injuries. Four of the 12 shootings resulted in fatalities, 3 resulted in multiple fatalities, and 2 (Sante Fe and Parkland) were mass shootings where more than 4 people were killed.
Researchers from Northeastern University revealed their finding in February that shootings at K-12 schools are not more common than they used to be and schools have become safer than they were in the 1990s.
"Since 1996, there have been 16 multiple victim shootings in schools, or incidents involving 4 or more victims and at least 2 deaths by firearms, excluding the assailant," the university said of the research. "Of these, 8 are mass shootings, or incidents involving 4 or more deaths, excluding the assailant."
The full Northeastern study will be published later this year but researchers have released their findings on the number of fatal school shootings and rate of students killed in those incidents.
They determined school shootings are rare events especially when compared with other causes of death among school-aged children. "There is not an epidemic of school shootings," James Alan Fox, the Lipman Family Professor of Criminology, Law, and Public Policy at Northeastern, said of the findings.
Representing these disturbing events as more common than they actually are leads to people overestimating how likely they are to happen at their local school: A study published last year found a third of parents believe their school will have a firearm incident in the next three years, despite only 8.6 percent who had actually heard of a gun incident at their school in the last five years. A poll published in April found 57 percent of teens fear a shooting at their school.
*Here are the 12 incidents thus far in the 2018 calendar year where a student was intentionally shot by or intentionally shot somebody with a gun on school property:
May 18, 2018: Santa Fe, Texas
A 17-year-old student murdered 10 people and wounded 10 others in a shooting at Santa Fe High School.
May 11, 2018: Palmdale, California
A 14-year-old former student fired a rifle outside of Highland High hitting one student in the shoulder. The victim is expected to make a full recovery.
April 20, 2018: Ocala, Florida
A 17-year-old student at Forest High School was shot by a 19-year-old former student. The victim was hit in the ankle. His injury is considered non-life-threatening.
March 20, 2018: Lexington Park, Maryland
A student shot two other students at Great Mills High School, killing one, before being engaged by an armed school resource officer and being killed himself.
March 7, 2018: Jackson, Mississippi
A student was shot in the leg in a Jackson State University dorm. Police are unsure if the student accidentally shot himself or was shot by somebody else. His wound was not life-threatening.
February 27, 2018: Norfolk, Virginia
A student at Norfolk State University realized he had been shot in the behind after hearing a loud bang coming from a neighboring dorm room. It's unclear if the shooting was accidental or intentional. The student was not seriously injured.
February 14, 2018: Parkland, Florida
A 19-year-old former student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School murdered 17 people at the school in one of the worst school shootings in American history.
February 9, 2018: Nashville, Tennessee
A 14-year-old shot a 17-year-old student multiple times in the parking lot of Pearl-Cohn High School. The 14-year-old claimed he was acting in self-defense during a fight with the 17-year-old and others but he still faces charges. The 17-year-old survived the shooting.
February 5, 2018: Oxon Hill, Maryland
A 17-year-old student at Oxon Hill High School was shot in a car in the school's parking lot in what police believe was an attempted robbery. He was treated and released from the hospital the same day.
January 23, 2018: Benton, Kentucky
A 15-year-old student murdered two other students at Marshall County High School and shot 14 others.
January 22, 2018: Italy, Texas
A 16-year-old male student at Italy High School shot a 15-year-old female student who had dated at one point. The victim survived the attack.
January 20, 2018: Winston-Salem, North Carolina
A Winston-Salem State University football player was murdered in the midst of a fight that broke out at a party on the campus of Wake Forest University. Another Winston-Salem State student was arrested for his murder. A second man was arrested for his role in the murder.
288 school shootings and you think it's a joke because one was a bb gun and it was reported by CNN. There's allot of dead kids there. I've got a couple bb guns (.22 & .25 pellet) that do 1100 fps. Maybe you'd like to volunteer so I can see how mild the "bruising" might be.
Were we to accept the premise that only a dozen of the 22 described events 'technically' apply, I still fail to see how any of the events would be less horrendous.
In all fairness, it would be be very difficult to describe Mr Gutowski as a bastion of nonpartisan information.
In all fairness, it would be be very difficult to describe Mr Gutowski as a bastion of nonpartisan information.
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Hmmm...six shot black powder revolver is what I was getting at. Very little range or accuracy, but they don't come in a small caliber. No, not the greatest weapon, just a repeating handgun anyone can buy anywhere cash and carry.
Speaking of revolvers, those were invented because an attempted assassination of Pres. Jackson used two single shot handguns which both failed to operate.
I don't want to be the guinea pig to test if the black powder round hurts a whole lot less than bullets. Handguns require a specific permit, but these evade the law completely.
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Hermen_eutics
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Gutowski bio : "conservative, Christian blogger"
"Christian" doesn't refer to Christ-like, as it suggests. It's more the phony appropriation of moral high ground by frightenened bigots.
My Christ would rightly put his foot up the asses of these backwards, self serving clowns.
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Hermen_eutics
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I LOL'd to that CNN graphic. Because it's misleading !
and who gives a fuck if the author is a Christian? I get it. All you do is hateHermen. Talk down to those with different opinions. Class act you are.
Pump your brakes goat boy. Youre chaffing because your tin foil hat citation is dismissed as a load of 3rd rate, red neck bullshit
