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Another Crappy Day in Paradise..... Do it Again.

Dirtboy808

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You would know what works best for you. We had our first rain from this last front.
I'm loving NOAA's last prediction. Been cold enough for you lol Aloha DB
 
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Hup: You ok
OH:Naw man. I'm pretty fucken far from ok.
Hup: What now?
OH:What now. Let me tell you what now.Ima call a coupla hard,pipe hittin' niggers,who'll go to work on the bradda here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.You here me talkin bradda boy?I aint through with you by a damn sight.I'm gonna get medieval on your ass
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Oh:This shit is between me,you and Mr. Soon-To-Be-Living-His -Short-Ass-Life-In -Agonizing-Pain Ripper here.
 
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Sometimes an anonymous phone call from a crazy fukah can help....specially if they know him.....lmk.....we gotta make smore blood/Durban live resin...shit is meeeaaaaaan.....weather has been awesome......alohazz
 
Arthritis_sucks

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Attack Geckos

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Now if we could mount mini lasers on these guys we would be set. They're all over the place......

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kalopatchkid said:
Lol. Get a load of this bullshit! Highly doubt it will pass, but, fuck them for even considering it.

phase 2 is recreational
phase 3 is making a med rec almost impossible by burying pot docs in red tape and litigation
phase 4 ,herd everyone into rec= no more personal growing
phase 5,winning
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oldhaole

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What do I Think?

What do I Think?

Oh boy..... now there's a loaded question.....

About the first hamhanded attempt at taking our right to grow away? What can I say? It's good to know who owns what. When it comes to the House, Souki is the real power. Watch him. I do find it ironic, to say the least, that whatshisface from Kona, Green? I think, the dude that almost sunk the program last year, then got his pee pee slapped, when they reserected it, is now all for the patients' right to grow.

I do think this is a warning shot across the bow of the gang of us that wants to reinstate the caregiver provision. He just announced that he will fight that change.

In the next week or two, as all the applications are put in, you will be very surprised on some of the names on the applications. You will recognize many of them. It will be, to say the least, entertaining.

I don't know why, but it reminds me of the Festivus celebration.

Ya got the unadorned aluminum pole. That is what the winners get....they just don't know it yet. Without the ability to grow out in the sun, all they have to offer is indoor. Yes, it is grown here, kind of..... The owners expect that all the tourists that come here with cards will flock to the dispensaries. Why? To pay more for the same crap they can get for less back home? Under lights, grown here is the same as flown here. Looks great, tastes great, NO BANG. Here is your pole..... and we, as you probably just felt, put it where you won't lose it.

Ya got the Airing of Grievances. That will happen as this works it's way up to the Hawaii Supreme Court. I know of more than one lawyer/lobbyist representing two seperate entities going for the same licence. You got guys frantically shuffling money around, messing with the terms. I can't tell you how many times I have heard the fix is in..... and the fix is always in their favor. I have no doubt that the fix is indeed in. But for who I do not know. No matter, everyone that lost will probably band together and sue.

And that brings us to the Feats of Strength. This is where it gets fuzzy. I would assume that the failed group will ask for and receive a TRO, because letting the winners set up will cause the losers irreparable harm. But past that, there are many things that could happen in this trial, all depending on a guy in a black robe. Will the State defend the law alone, or are the winners allowed a seat at the table? Will the Plaintiffs band together, or fight the state individually? These questions, and other far thornier ones will be asked and answered..... one day.... at great cost, in the not so near future. I predict the winners will be the lawyers. Either way, they will get paid first.

Lastly, keep in mind, there is an outside, granted, far outside, chance something like this will happen. I call this the fuck'em all option. State (BOH) picks winners, losers band together and sue. State stonewalls, eventually loses. State says fuck it, you can all go be dispensaries.............

I know, crazy talk. Couldn't happen.

Then we have the nuclear option, which, thank jeeebuzzz the legislature overlooked..... I won't even discuss that until this shit is settled. I don't know why they didn't come up with it themselves, it's so evilly brilliant. I won't tell you what it is, but I will say it would have put everyone of us out of business. But it would also almost be like giving a small child a lighter and telling him to go play downstairs. I have no doubt it will be used, but like always, there will be too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, so it will NOT be coordinated.

It's almost like the dispensaries have priced in the legalization of recreational use. Which won't happen anytime soon. Without a rescue that is never gonna come, how the hell they gonna make money? Not that I care, but this could be a whole lotta nothing except a bunch of stupid fucks losing money.

But somebody has to do it. Now you got me on the record, I think it, after a long drawn out court battle, the"winners" will fail due to their inability to grow outside, thus forcing them to compete with all the shit flown here far cheaper than they can grow it. The pool of dispensary clients is small and shallow. Without recreational use, chances of success are.... in my opinion.... limited.

As for the weather? It tried to rain today..... and failed. We had a nice brush fire on the pali a few days back, what I'm sure will be the first of many. Many people here have forgotten, or not been around for the last big El Nino. That was followed by a four year drought. This thing is far from over.

The plants are loving it. I suppose I should do a post about that, but this dispensary shit has sucked all the air out of the room.

Eventually.
 
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You thought right! Texas isn't going rec yet, just rumors. Not even really going med.
 
oldhaole

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More Disjointed Thoughts

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Arthritis_sucks said:
I'm thinking rec will be on the table soon as Texas is about to legalize it an I thought that would never happen.
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I'll be gentle. I don't see it.

And Texas didn't just vote to legalize recreational MJ either.

Here's why.

Main reason, the voters do not support it. A Star-Advertiser poll done a year or less back had Hawaii residents against legalization of recreational MJ 60-40.

Another reason is this upcoming dispensary trip as it unfolds will be seen by the legislature as "fixing" the problem. The next few years will be "studying" if recreational will be possible. Some bills will be introduced to make it recreational, but I doubt they will ever get out of committee.

Already the writing is on the wall for those that can read it. By forcing dispensaries to grow inside, they give them no claim to the Hawaiian sun. Sungrown weed is what Hawaii is famous for. By not allowing the dispensaries to use what is best, and better yet free, is not setting them up to succeed but setting them up to FAIL.

In our nation there are two states with no legalized gambling. Utah, which for obvious reasons has none, and Hawaii. It's not like people from Hawaii don't like to gamble, they do. We send thousands of people to Vegas every week and they spend enormous amounts of money in Vegas, instead of Hawaii, because of a single principal.

Back in the 60's, when tourism was in it's "youth" in Hawaii; the legislatures (State house and Senate); made a conscious decision to ban gaming in favor of promoting Hawaiian natural beauty and recreational opportunities.

Times changed. Other states, Indian tribes, riverboat gambling and whatever, changed the face of gambling across the mainland United States.

As this nationwide change occurred; only the states of Hawaii and Utah did not change their positions. Bills for legalized gambling in Hawaii were introduced every year into the legislature; both in good economic upswings and downturns. Every single attempt to pass any form of legalized gambling was defeated. Hawaii chose the "moral high road."

We are willing to send millions of dollars to Vegas in order to avoid being referred to as a gambling Mecca. Even though this thinking is rooted in the 1960's it's costing the State of Hawaii potential revenue NOW.

Since Hawaii is not willing to move into the twentieth century on the issue of legalized gambling; what makes you think that they will give the okay to a much less revenue producing and more politically controversial program such as recreational marijuana?

Do you think after avoiding the stigma of Hawaii being a gamblers' paradise for fifty plus years, that our legislature would want to sign us up to be known as a "Stoner Heaven"?

As I have stated in previous posts; I think that the new MMJ program the legislature has created, as written, is built to fail. MMJ has always been the proverbial "tar baby" of Hawaiian politics. Ask Josh Green. With this new law, the legislature no longer has to deal with the tar baby. It's now the Board of Health's problem.

In Hawaii we have a concept called "face." Haoles often don't get the idea. Living on an island, you learn that absolutes are seldom that. And you are gonna see the same faces over and over as you cruise through the day and your life. You have to get along with these people. You have to get along with everybody. Because you are gonna see em' again; and you don't want to get beat up a red light. Face means that " in victory you must be modest; (a concept that I have yet to master) and in defeat, one must be magnanimous (again, problems).

With the awarding of dispensary contracts, there will be obvious winners and losers. Many toes will be stepped on; livelihoods disturbed; and, my guess, is that the winners will not be "modest" in their victory. The losers will lick their wounds and later, thank jeebuz , that they didn't "win" one of the contract locations to slowly bleed out the Capital that was invested.
 
Arthritis_sucks

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oldhaole said:
I'll be gentle. I don't see it.

And Texas didn't just vote to legalize recreational MJ either.

Here's why.

Main reason, the voters do not support it. A Star-Advertiser poll done a year or less back had Hawaii residents against legalization of recreational MJ 60-40.

Another reason is this upcoming dispensary trip as it unfolds will be seen by the legislature as "fixing" the problem. The next few years will be "studying" if recreational will be possible. Some bills will be introduced to make it recreational, but I doubt they will ever get out of committee.

Already the writing is on the wall for those that can read it. By forcing dispensaries to grow inside, they give them no claim to the Hawaiian sun. Sungrown weed is what Hawaii is famous for. By not allowing the dispensaries to use what is best, and better yet free, is not setting them up to succeed but setting them up to FAIL.

In our nation there are two states with no legalized gambling. Utah, which for obvious reasons has none, and Hawaii. It's not like people from Hawaii don't like to gamble, they do. We send thousands of people to Vegas every week and they spend enormous amounts of money in Vegas, instead of Hawaii, because of a single principal.

Back in the 60's, when tourism was in it's "youth" in Hawaii; the legislatures (State house and Senate); made a conscious decision to ban gaming in favor of promoting Hawaiian natural beauty and recreational opportunities.

Times changed. Other states, Indian tribes, riverboat gambling and whatever, changed the face of gambling across the mainland United States.

As this nationwide change occurred; only the states of Hawaii and Utah did not change their positions. Bills for legalized gambling in Hawaii were introduced every year into the legislature; both in good economic upswings and downturns. Every single attempt to pass any form of legalized gambling was defeated. Hawaii chose the "moral high road."

We are willing to send millions of dollars to Vegas in order to avoid being referred to as a gambling Mecca. Even though this thinking is rooted in the 1960's it's costing the State of Hawaii potential revenue NOW.

Since Hawaii is not willing to move into the twentieth century on the issue of legalized gambling; what makes you think that they will give the okay to a much less revenue producing and more politically controversial program such as recreational marijuana?

Do you think after avoiding the stigma of Hawaii being a gamblers' paradise for fifty plus years, that our legislature would want to sign us up to be known as a "Stoner Heaven"?

As I have stated in previous posts; I think that the new MMJ program the legislature has created, as written, is built to fail. MMJ has always been the proverbial "tar baby" of Hawaiian politics. Ask Josh Green. With this new law, the legislature no longer has to deal with the tar baby. It's now the Board of Health's problem.

In Hawaii we have a concept called "face." Haoles often don't get the idea. Living on an island, you learn that absolutes are seldom that. And you are gonna see the same faces over and over as you cruise through the day and your life. You have to get along with these people. You have to get along with everybody. Because you are gonna see em' again; and you don't want to get beat up a red light. Face means that " in victory you must be modest; (a concept that I have yet to master) and in defeat, one must be magnanimous (again, problems).

With the awarding of dispensary contracts, there will be obvious winners and losers. Many toes will be stepped on; livelihoods disturbed; and, my guess, is that the winners will not be "modest" in their victory. The losers will lick their wounds and later, thank jeebuz , that they didn't "win" one of the contract locations to slowly bleed out the Capital that was invested.
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On the table meant just that lol. Like when MMJ was on the table an how long it took to get dispensaries going, an they screwed the pooch on that one as it. I see the same assbackwardness that you see my friend. On the table is a term I threw out there cause I watched last session that passed this dispo bill an they said in 2016 they would start talking about rec.

One can hope for the future. :tiphat:
 
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GOOD OLD SIN CITY, WHEN IT GOES REC HERE IT WILL BE THE AMSTERDAM OF THE U.S.A. THE RICH WILL GET RICHER
 
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