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Another Crappy Day in Paradise..... Do it Again.
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You can have mine but I didn't take any cuts my Casper OG yields way more and rots less. Good story OH I have not meet the Kona Pog but have heard of him.
your story is a rerun, it happens to every strain, who do you trust ? sad but true
When the Tide Goes Out, Then You See Who is Swimming Naked.....
When the Tide Goes Out, Then You See Who is Swimming Naked.....
Thanks for the moral support. You, more than any of us have been there and done that. Who do you trust? That's easy! You trust people that have better strains than mine, so in this world I got nuthin' worth stealing. And you trust yourself. When someone shares something special with you, and asks you to keep it under your hat..... that's what you do. This can work out well in the real world. If two trustworthy people have a copy, even after a major screwup (like Rounding up your entire room) nothing is ever lost.
But it is rather funny, my last caustic post was like switching on the lights, expecting to see a rat....but instead you find a cockroach.
Hey Surfed......
Can't help but notice that your name was not mentioned ANYWHERE upthread in my little bowl of sour grapes. But there are four posts deposited in my thread today from you.
We went from; "it's all mine and you can't have it"..... that being the case, God bless you....and thank you too for confirming that what I said is indeed true.
to..... allow me to paraphrase.....
"we don't have the real Skunkdog, but real close. And we got a pile of stuff that kicks the shit out of it....Right DB?"
But here you are, showing it off under the tag Maui Skunkdog. I hear you. I too put up digme shots of my B team..... all the time. File that under greed and ego.
Did you ever answer Grey's question? Must have missed that.
Let me give you a piece of advice. Pick a story and stick to it. And if you are not directly called out by name, but guilty, say nothing, nothing at all.
Then things go downhill.... fast.
The cut's "you guys" sent over. There are no you guys. For the record I write this all by myself. I sent you nothing. You need to take your dis-satisfaction up with another party. I had nothing to do with that.....Should that have been left up to me all you would have gotten was the GG4. Or maybe, just maybe, it was a test. But I doubt it.
And you save the best for last. I'm now opening a seed company.
Really? I shouldn't have to dignify that with an answer, but I wouldn't miss this chance for all the Coqui frogs in your backyard.
A seed company is an awesome responsibility. While I am quite comfortable setting my own table, It is far above my pay grade to set anyone elses. Take a screenshot of this. If I start a seed company never buy a seed from me. Should I give them away don't take them. Run far away, run away fast.
Then find me and shoot me in the head. There are people that do this well. I am not one of them. Nor is Pogfather. But then I don't steal other peoples' work either.....
Seed company? If you show me ANYWHERE in universe where I started a seed company, I will give you a fullblown realdeal Skunkdog plant. Deliver it to your front door. I'll wear the clown costume of your choice. Even make balloon animals for the kids.
When the Tide Goes Out, Then You See Who is Swimming Naked.....
Thanks for the moral support. You, more than any of us have been there and done that. Who do you trust? That's easy! You trust people that have better strains than mine, so in this world I got nuthin' worth stealing. And you trust yourself. When someone shares something special with you, and asks you to keep it under your hat..... that's what you do. This can work out well in the real world. If two trustworthy people have a copy, even after a major screwup (like Rounding up your entire room) nothing is ever lost.
But it is rather funny, my last caustic post was like switching on the lights, expecting to see a rat....but instead you find a cockroach.
Hey Surfed......
Can't help but notice that your name was not mentioned ANYWHERE upthread in my little bowl of sour grapes. But there are four posts deposited in my thread today from you.
We went from; "it's all mine and you can't have it"..... that being the case, God bless you....and thank you too for confirming that what I said is indeed true.
to..... allow me to paraphrase.....
"we don't have the real Skunkdog, but real close. And we got a pile of stuff that kicks the shit out of it....Right DB?"
But here you are, showing it off under the tag Maui Skunkdog. I hear you. I too put up digme shots of my B team..... all the time. File that under greed and ego.
Did you ever answer Grey's question? Must have missed that.
Let me give you a piece of advice. Pick a story and stick to it. And if you are not directly called out by name, but guilty, say nothing, nothing at all.
Then things go downhill.... fast.
The cut's "you guys" sent over. There are no you guys. For the record I write this all by myself. I sent you nothing. You need to take your dis-satisfaction up with another party. I had nothing to do with that.....Should that have been left up to me all you would have gotten was the GG4. Or maybe, just maybe, it was a test. But I doubt it.
And you save the best for last. I'm now opening a seed company.
Really? I shouldn't have to dignify that with an answer, but I wouldn't miss this chance for all the Coqui frogs in your backyard.
A seed company is an awesome responsibility. While I am quite comfortable setting my own table, It is far above my pay grade to set anyone elses. Take a screenshot of this. If I start a seed company never buy a seed from me. Should I give them away don't take them. Run far away, run away fast.
Then find me and shoot me in the head. There are people that do this well. I am not one of them. Nor is Pogfather. But then I don't steal other peoples' work either.....
Seed company? If you show me ANYWHERE in universe where I started a seed company, I will give you a fullblown realdeal Skunkdog plant. Deliver it to your front door. I'll wear the clown costume of your choice. Even make balloon animals for the kids.
Most of what you are saying is wrong info about me what I have got and what I have given out. Have a fun life Aloha
Howzit goin OH?i have read these last few days posts and I'm really puzzled as to the character assassination goin on in here.i have much respect,usually for all the people who participate,but lately I wonder.everybody has da best until they see something that is better.That being said,I believe in sharing all my cuts,why not I can only do so much and I don't get anymore for anything.a few times I had room problems and lost cuts that I was able to get back after gifting them.different strokes for different folks.i don't mind what anybody does,it's your kuleana,nowadays it's becoming a legit way to earn income and some will always lean towards making legit money.myself I have always liked the idea of making my own hours and working as hard as I like .live and let live.....aloha nui loa and take it easy...be humble no grumble..........we all got da bes
Hey Dirt, Sorry man, you didnt deserve any of this. Sorry I gave ya the cut. Most of what OH is saying is wrong and his reading/listening comprehension is going as well. He must be having some life problems and the SKDG issue is a vent for him. He thinks someone who shares genetics is a villian. We have never changed our story or given out anything we are not supposed to. Let him continue to wear his clown outfit, but just let him know he needs new suspenders as his ass is showing.
The Man Doth Protest too Much, Methinks......
The Man Doth Protest too Much, Methinks......
OK..... First off I gotta say I'm sorry to DB.
I did not mean to involve him in this. He was on the sidelines and I pulled him into something, that he was not a part of. If you go back and read that post I was "paraphrasing" Surfed's reply to me. If I implied in any way shape or form that DB was involved in this I was wrong and it was not the impression I wished to make.
And for that I'm sorry. I tried to get cute and fucked up.
That said.....
Casper.....We have had this discussion, many times, in private. Without disclosing too much we have agreed to disagree. If you feel that I am off base you are free to offer your opinion. But as my friend I'd rather you offer that to me in the usual manner, behind a bong in private. I understand that you are trying to calm the waters. For that I thank you.
We all need to calm down,take a step back and look at everything that has brought us here. I gotta say, I am confused by the way things worked out.
Character assination? I am guilty. But the target was Pogfather. 808 seeds, seedless, his little trip was the target. No one else. I thought, and still think, the whole thing stinks.
Let me cut here.
I thought it was pretty clear. You can either agree or disagree with me. I know I am very Don Quixoteish about this stuff..... but to go from a random Dog cut, and there is NOTHING wrong with that cut, to Maui Skunkdog, in three months? To know what it was before it was even grown to maturity? I just gave you a peek behind the scenes on what was done. Or even what I thought was done. Is that right or wrong? You know how I feel, you may feel differently.
Again, my target was ONLY Pogfather. Period. Some, perhaps many, think I am a stupid old man, looking to fight windmills. My bet is most of you rolled you eyes and said "Good Luck Charlie"..... and that's putting it lightly.
What I got back, to say the least, was curious. You can read it for yourself. Draw your own conclusions. I tried to paraphrase it last post and insulted DB so I won't try it again. Again, I'm sorry DB, but in your sign off even you chucked me a small bone. The other half of mostly wrong is a little bit right.... right?
I was pissed. Grey is my friend, but he sails his own ship. As do I. Greyskull Seeds? Not me. The cuts? Not me. Yes, my reply was sarcastic. I didn't expect you to give much of a shit about the Dirty Laundry post. It ain't like it's the first time I wrote something inflammatory. Why are you calling me out? Why this time?
Pissed took me a day or so to get over. It's the why that's still eating at me. I mean of the last 14 posts since the Dirty Laundry post, eight of them have been from you.
Let's see..... clown outfit, life problems, ass showing.... dude, look at my avatar....I embrace it, and the best one.... Greed and Ego. On those last two I plead gleefully guilty. What about you on those last two? How do you plead?
Anyway, I have theory. Why would the normally mild mannerd Surfed turn into insult slinging Surfed over a hit piece that didn't even mention him? My theory, is that either
A) Surfed IS Pogfather......yea, I know, stupid.
B) Surfed and Pogfather are partners......possible.
C) Surfed and Pogfather are friends......You want to answer that?
On second thought don't bother. It's a trick question. There is no right answer, they'll all leave you open to attack. Even if you said you have never met the dude.
And that's the way I'd like to leave this. The last punch pulled. I can understand defending a friend. That's what we do. I can understand trying to obtain, by any means, the best possible strains. I have done it myself. In my windmill fighting world I'd like a universal right and wrong.....but I'd want it to be me writing the rules.
This is not an apology. Far from it. My feelings toward Pogfather remain the same. If this is the way they run their show, they deserve to fail miserably. My only hope is that surfed and db get some killer genetics out of the wreckage.
But I do have a log to write (assuming I don't get banned) and a life to live (assuming a bus (driven by Pogfather) doesn't run me over tomorrow). So do you Surfed. And this goes for everyone else too.
If you decide to stick around I promise....to change nothing. I will make a fool out of myself and not give a shit. Feel free to point and laugh all you want. I will stick to my outdated stupid personal code of ethics. The only time I will apologise is when I fuck up, which I promise you will be often. Sorry again DB.
You want to stick around? Stick. You wanna bail? Bail. You wanna lurk? Lurk. Should you decide to bail, or lurk, I say this with all seriousness, this thread will be the lesser for it. Undoubtedly I will say something that offends some other reader..... until then....
Can't we just all get along?
The Man Doth Protest too Much, Methinks......
OK..... First off I gotta say I'm sorry to DB.
I did not mean to involve him in this. He was on the sidelines and I pulled him into something, that he was not a part of. If you go back and read that post I was "paraphrasing" Surfed's reply to me. If I implied in any way shape or form that DB was involved in this I was wrong and it was not the impression I wished to make.
And for that I'm sorry. I tried to get cute and fucked up.
That said.....
Casper.....We have had this discussion, many times, in private. Without disclosing too much we have agreed to disagree. If you feel that I am off base you are free to offer your opinion. But as my friend I'd rather you offer that to me in the usual manner, behind a bong in private. I understand that you are trying to calm the waters. For that I thank you.
We all need to calm down,take a step back and look at everything that has brought us here. I gotta say, I am confused by the way things worked out.
Character assination? I am guilty. But the target was Pogfather. 808 seeds, seedless, his little trip was the target. No one else. I thought, and still think, the whole thing stinks.
Let me cut here.
I thought it was pretty clear. You can either agree or disagree with me. I know I am very Don Quixoteish about this stuff..... but to go from a random Dog cut, and there is NOTHING wrong with that cut, to Maui Skunkdog, in three months? To know what it was before it was even grown to maturity? I just gave you a peek behind the scenes on what was done. Or even what I thought was done. Is that right or wrong? You know how I feel, you may feel differently.
Again, my target was ONLY Pogfather. Period. Some, perhaps many, think I am a stupid old man, looking to fight windmills. My bet is most of you rolled you eyes and said "Good Luck Charlie"..... and that's putting it lightly.
What I got back, to say the least, was curious. You can read it for yourself. Draw your own conclusions. I tried to paraphrase it last post and insulted DB so I won't try it again. Again, I'm sorry DB, but in your sign off even you chucked me a small bone. The other half of mostly wrong is a little bit right.... right?
I was pissed. Grey is my friend, but he sails his own ship. As do I. Greyskull Seeds? Not me. The cuts? Not me. Yes, my reply was sarcastic. I didn't expect you to give much of a shit about the Dirty Laundry post. It ain't like it's the first time I wrote something inflammatory. Why are you calling me out? Why this time?
Pissed took me a day or so to get over. It's the why that's still eating at me. I mean of the last 14 posts since the Dirty Laundry post, eight of them have been from you.
Let's see..... clown outfit, life problems, ass showing.... dude, look at my avatar....I embrace it, and the best one.... Greed and Ego. On those last two I plead gleefully guilty. What about you on those last two? How do you plead?
Anyway, I have theory. Why would the normally mild mannerd Surfed turn into insult slinging Surfed over a hit piece that didn't even mention him? My theory, is that either
A) Surfed IS Pogfather......yea, I know, stupid.
B) Surfed and Pogfather are partners......possible.
C) Surfed and Pogfather are friends......You want to answer that?
On second thought don't bother. It's a trick question. There is no right answer, they'll all leave you open to attack. Even if you said you have never met the dude.
And that's the way I'd like to leave this. The last punch pulled. I can understand defending a friend. That's what we do. I can understand trying to obtain, by any means, the best possible strains. I have done it myself. In my windmill fighting world I'd like a universal right and wrong.....but I'd want it to be me writing the rules.
This is not an apology. Far from it. My feelings toward Pogfather remain the same. If this is the way they run their show, they deserve to fail miserably. My only hope is that surfed and db get some killer genetics out of the wreckage.
But I do have a log to write (assuming I don't get banned) and a life to live (assuming a bus (driven by Pogfather) doesn't run me over tomorrow). So do you Surfed. And this goes for everyone else too.
If you decide to stick around I promise....to change nothing. I will make a fool out of myself and not give a shit. Feel free to point and laugh all you want. I will stick to my outdated stupid personal code of ethics. The only time I will apologise is when I fuck up, which I promise you will be often. Sorry again DB.
You want to stick around? Stick. You wanna bail? Bail. You wanna lurk? Lurk. Should you decide to bail, or lurk, I say this with all seriousness, this thread will be the lesser for it. Undoubtedly I will say something that offends some other reader..... until then....
Can't we just all get along?
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Aloha,
Hope you and your family are well. I jumped in to defend DB and to try and straighten out the untruths in your posts. I am friends with everyone, Pogfather included. There is no 808 seedless/808seeds for your info. Not sure how you came up with that. Pogfather is one of the teams working towards a dispo permit.(heard 2 of the 3 Oahu licenses have already been bought and they are building greenhouse already. Caldwell(fucking prosecutor) and a relative of Ige. Par for the course). Now, Pogfather is his own man and he can answer for what he does, but he seems like a pretty good guy whose goal is to simply amass a genetic library to provide patients with if they get a store. If answering leaves me open for attack, thats fine I can withstand attacks. Greed and Ego, we are all human but some strive harder to leave the world a better place than others.
Im sticking around, Im butthurt proof. Sorry you were angered by my replys or the issue in general. Im glad you have genetics you love and will defend.
After all it is the internet and we are here to talk and have discussions on our point of views as the world would be quite bland indeed if we were all the same.
Aloha
Hope you and your family are well. I jumped in to defend DB and to try and straighten out the untruths in your posts. I am friends with everyone, Pogfather included. There is no 808 seedless/808seeds for your info. Not sure how you came up with that. Pogfather is one of the teams working towards a dispo permit.(heard 2 of the 3 Oahu licenses have already been bought and they are building greenhouse already. Caldwell(fucking prosecutor) and a relative of Ige. Par for the course). Now, Pogfather is his own man and he can answer for what he does, but he seems like a pretty good guy whose goal is to simply amass a genetic library to provide patients with if they get a store. If answering leaves me open for attack, thats fine I can withstand attacks. Greed and Ego, we are all human but some strive harder to leave the world a better place than others.
Im sticking around, Im butthurt proof. Sorry you were angered by my replys or the issue in general. Im glad you have genetics you love and will defend.
After all it is the internet and we are here to talk and have discussions on our point of views as the world would be quite bland indeed if we were all the same.
Aloha
Hi Oldhaole, just popping in to wish you well and a happy holiday. Seems like a lot going on in here. Hope everyone works it out and can all get a bong lol.
Best vibes!
Best vibes!
I witnessed an UNBELIEVABLE dog fight. Must be in the stars right now. Mercury rising I think.
It happened on Sunday while I was at work. Some huntah guys came in for some green bottles, chili, and red dogs after a long wet morning up here in the bush. While they were waiting and talking story one of their dogs escaped their truck and got into it with another dog. This is when the unbelievable happened.
Uncle Waltah came running in and exclaimed
"Ho Cuz,my chihuahua jus killed your guyses red pit bull!"
The huntah guys all looked shocked and one them replied,
" No way your tiny dog could kill my pit bull, he even get on one cut collar."
"Try come, I show you" said Uncle Waltah "I think my dog stay stuck in its throat!"
......And back to our regularly scheduled programming
Aloha
It happened on Sunday while I was at work. Some huntah guys came in for some green bottles, chili, and red dogs after a long wet morning up here in the bush. While they were waiting and talking story one of their dogs escaped their truck and got into it with another dog. This is when the unbelievable happened.
Uncle Waltah came running in and exclaimed
"Ho Cuz,my chihuahua jus killed your guyses red pit bull!"
The huntah guys all looked shocked and one them replied,
" No way your tiny dog could kill my pit bull, he even get on one cut collar."
"Try come, I show you" said Uncle Waltah "I think my dog stay stuck in its throat!"
......And back to our regularly scheduled programming
Aloha
Pogfather is not a bad dude, he's just a collector like surfd said...and I dont believe the circle he shares with is very large. (but maybe thats already too many for your comfort?)
I think if you were to meet him at his farm you would have a good chuckle over this whole thing over a tasty cup of coffee.
I've smoked the "Skunkdog" from Kona side and its nice but I havent had the "real thing" to compare it to.
There is definitely no seed co. in the works and "Seeded808" (whom I believe you are referreing to) is an entirely different person who doesn't even live in Hawaii. He too is not a bad person.
In the grand scheme of things, we are all here (I Hope) because we enjoy growing and smoking this wonderful plant. Neither party is in it for the money, though it may seem like any person trying to get a dispo license is....he's not the one applying for the license, just someone with a foot in the door if the universe happens to line up.
I think if you were to meet him at his farm you would have a good chuckle over this whole thing over a tasty cup of coffee.
I've smoked the "Skunkdog" from Kona side and its nice but I havent had the "real thing" to compare it to.
There is definitely no seed co. in the works and "Seeded808" (whom I believe you are referreing to) is an entirely different person who doesn't even live in Hawaii. He too is not a bad person.
In the grand scheme of things, we are all here (I Hope) because we enjoy growing and smoking this wonderful plant. Neither party is in it for the money, though it may seem like any person trying to get a dispo license is....he's not the one applying for the license, just someone with a foot in the door if the universe happens to line up.
