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Anonymous gives the cops an ultimatum

HempKat

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From Sky news:

http://news.sky.com/story/1526849/sandra-bland-cctv-footage-from-jail-released

Several hours of video footage showing Sandra Bland alive in jail have been released by officials in Texas – in a bid to quash online rumours that she died before arriving there.

The unedited recording shows Ms Bland - who was found hanged in her cell following an apparent suicide on 13 July - speaking to a jail worker and making a phone call.

Amid speculation the 28-year-old's body was placed on the jail's floor so a mugshot could be taken, the CCTV footage also shows Ms Bland standing up for the photograph.

Ms Bland, a black woman, was arrested on 10 July for a minor traffic offence and her death in custody has led activists to claim it is another example of police brutality against minorities.

Judge Trey Duhon has confirmed several Waller County officials have received death threats over the case, and the FBI is investigating the most serious.

"This is Sandra Bland. There's no other way around it. This video has not been altered or doctored in any way. These are the raw files.

"There's no footage that indicates to me that Ms Bland was treated unfairly or was mishandled or mistreated in any way, shape or form while she was in the Waller County Jail."

Ms Bland, who was from suburban Chicago, had been stopped by Officer Brian Encinia for failing to signal a lane change near Prairie View, Texas.

She was taken into custody after the incident escalated, and was facing allegations that she had kicked the state trooper in the shin.

Earlier this week, Houston station KTRK-TV released a voicemail that Ms Bland left a friend while in jail, in which she calmly expressed her frustration.

In the message, she said she is "still just at a loss for words honestly at this whole process".

She added: "How did switching lanes with no signal turn into all of this?"

On Monday, an initial toxicology report was released, which suggested that Ms Bland had "a substantial amount of marijuana in her system".

The county's sheriff has also confirmed that Ms Bland was not placed on suicide watch despite her telling them she had previously tried to take her own life with pills after losing a baby.

His office has admitted violating state rules on jail training and monitoring inmates.

That story raises an interesting question, since the whole incident from stopping her for a ticket, until when she was found dead, was only 3 days. If they have hours of footage showing her alive while in jail then that would suggest cameras that should have also caught the suicide. So where is the footage of that?

The problem seems to be that cops have either by training or it being a natural reaction from having been "on the job" for a while, have developed a reaction of "How dare you defy me". Clearly from the story that we have so far of the arrest Ms Bland defied orders such as "put out the cigarette" and "get out of the car." Which is perfectly natural since neither order should have been given since they had nothing to do with why she was stopped. The officer clearly lost it when this black woman defied him and escalated to "Get out of the car or I'll light you up" all while brandishing a Taser. A Taser is meant to be used when a suspect is being aggressive, had this woman got out of the car and tried to attack him then a Taser would have been warranted. It's not meant to be a tool to force people to obey you.

The bit about her being arrested because of kicking the officer, there's a problem with that. She never should have been asked to get out of her car for a routine traffic violation. The only things that should have happened is him asking for "license and registration", briefly explain the reason for the stop, and then go to his car to run the plates and license and write the ticket." Now had he done that and discovered she was wanted for some reason then asking her to get out would make sense. Ms Bland had it exactly right when she questioned "You doing this all for a failure to signal?" It's also interesting she was a fair bit taller then him. I suspect that between the defiant attitude (not entirely undeserved in my opinion) and the height difference intimidated the officer causing him to fly into a rage. Like "How dare she defy me".

Now to be entirely fair any intelligent people, especially black ones, since they are targeted more, should know you shouldn't risk irritating a police officer you might end up dead. She probably could have deescalated that situation as easily if not more easily then the cop, simply by being less defiant and more cooperative. One key thing we need to keep in mind though is "what might have been going thru her mind? Given all the things we've heard about police encounters with black people recently, she had every right to be terrified of what might be about to happen. This would obviously result in even greater resistance from Ms. Bland and obviously played into whenever the alleged kicking took place. I would say that the cop obviously laid his hands on her in an unnecessary perhaps even inappropriate manner. Which given the circumstances should be viewed as fair and reasonable. I mean I seriously doubt she just said to herself, "You know what? I'm gonna kick him for no good reason.....Yeah that's what I'm gonna do...kick him!."

Another important consideration, Ms Bland was there for a new job, probably a good career job since she was willing to relocate from way up north to way down south. Usually such things become happy turning points for when you are older and reflecting back on your past. So it really doesn't make sense she might kill herself when she was on the brink of what might be one of the happiest days of her life. It also doesn't fit well with her being so defiant to the police being new to town, black and not familiar with how the police were there in Texas. I know if it were me I would have kept everything at "yes sir/no sir" and followed instructions regarding the cigarette.

Still all that aside this woman never should have been sent to jail, fined perhaps but no time. I'm not going to say that I'm sure the cops killed her, but I do think something happened either between Ms Bland and the police/guards at the jail or Ms. Bland and other inmate(s) and the hanging was staged to cover up whatever happened. This would account for why they have hours of video showing Ms. Bland alive and nothing showing here attempting suicide. Perhaps the missing hours of Ms. Bland's stay at the jail showed something the police doesn't want anyone to see?
 

HempKat

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statements like this keep me up nights laughing my ass slap off. "no kinda gun control" LOL! there are literally HUNDREDS of laws regarding guns and firearm possession in this country. ignorance of the law is no excuse, it only means that you are ignorant. if by "no kinda gun control" you mean "our govt is unable to take them away and put us at their mercy the way YOU are to YOUR govt", then yes, you are correct. :laughing:

I think he meant more like gun control that effectively weeds out the Adam Lanzas, James Eagan Holmeses, Seung-Hui Chos and Dylann Roofs of the world and prevent them from getting guns. The problem is that there are to many ways outside the legal system in which one can acquire guns. As the old saying goes, "If you make it criminal to own a gun only criminals would have them." Even if you outright banned all guns people in America would continue to have them. They are too woven into our constitutional DNA. America will never become a gun free country.
 

theHIGHlander

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I think he meant more like gun control that effectively weeds out the Adam Lanzas, James Eagan Holmeses, Seung-Hui Chos and Dylann Roofs of the world and prevent them from getting guns. The problem is that there are to many ways outside the legal system in which one can acquire guns. As the old saying goes, "If you make it criminal to own a gun only criminals would have them." Even if you outright banned all guns people in America would continue to have them. They are too woven into our constitutional DNA. America will never become a gun free country.

Thanks bro I've never been the best at wording thing :tiphat:..

Trust me I've no probs with guns ( I've not even shot1) and sometimes wish I could have one to protect me and me family but my law say different and in a way am sorta glad, I will just have to stick with dogs and a baseball bat lol..

I will just back the fuck up and drop outa hear. I know how sensitive the whole gun thing is at the moment in the USA (+ it has nothing to do with this thread) .and not beaing born there I suppose I would have a different view as I've not growin up in a gun owing country ..pease out

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LEF

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land of the free my ass... we are over policed and imprisioned..I got no use for police...I blame white people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. yeehaw...anon rock on...police have too much power and are almost never held accountable for their actions.. only when they cant bury it and people get ready to riot...it would be nice if the riots would take out courthouses,jails,police stations ect, not local stores ,cars,houses,restraunts... focus the anger where it belongs..

You blame white people ? I thought you were white yourself.
 

Shcrews

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to meny cops in the USA, Was that a joke ?....
1million cops to 319million peeps and no kinda gun control . How meny fucking phycos in the USA have guns ? how meny people in the USA have a gun that shouldn't .infact how meny people in the USA have a gun mmmmmmmm and you think that's to meny cops , sorry but I can only laugh at that. Murder capital off the world and you think wee have to meny cops pffffff..

Trust me I ain't sticking up for no cops....they ain't all bad.(ain't you seen the movies).and hopefully they get what they deserve,but I did spit my tea out laughing with that statement

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Highlander

fuck that , 1 million cops is definitely too many.

how many do YOU think we should have?
 

Budley Doright

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Here is something the cops know but the public doesnt...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URAZ3umt7v0

at 1:13 sandra is seen running a stop sign.....

the cop does a u....and goes after her.....

Odd thing is....she had no idea she ran a stop sign...

People say it was about a turn signal.... or a cig....

it was really about a woman with a recent dui....who ran a stop sign and had no idea....
 

Budley Doright

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I find this very odd.... the cops release this video on july 21..... Thousand or millions have seen this.... conspiracy theories... how come nobody has pointed out that sandy ran a stop sign???

You know all the experts.... giving opinions about this and that....

how could so many folks miss something so obvious???

Show me one person in the media who has mentioned this?????

really????

Something isnt adding up to me....
 

Budley Doright

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Cant be.... she went peacefully.....

it would be impossible to hang her without her biting lips and tongue....

her family did a second autopsy and not a peep.....

SHe killed herself on monday morning....the day her new job was to start..... that was gone too......

I have some sympathy for those who believe in silly conspiracy theories.....Involving a bunch of people....

goofy....
 

Shcrews

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Ihow come nobody has pointed out that sandy ran a stop sign???

You know all the experts.... giving opinions about this and that....

how could so many folks miss something so obvious???

cuz it doesn't matter at all in the big picture. this is about police and their abuse of power / lack of transparency
 

minds_I

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Cant be.... she went peacefully.....

it would be impossible to hang her without her biting lips and tongue....

her family did a second autopsy and not a peep.....

SHe killed herself on monday morning....the day her new job was to start..... that was gone too......

I have some sympathy for those who believe in silly conspiracy theories.....Involving a bunch of people....

goofy....

Hello all,

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!

minds_I
 

Budley Doright

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cuz it doesn't matter at all in the big picture. this is about police and their abuse of power / lack of transparency


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URAZ3umt7v0

at 1:13 she obviously runs a stop sign


very transparent..... and nobody mentions this???

Would you like to say how this tidbit of info influences you??


If the cop did something wrong I would be first in line to say something..,...

This woman ran a stop sign and clearly she is unaware of....

SHe had a recent dui......

I would expect that cop to take her out of her can and dui test her.... That would be his job.....like it or not.....
 

Shcrews

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Would you like to say how this tidbit of info influences you??
i dont know, or really care about the details of the sandra bland case. regardless, i believe that most police in america are abusive and/or corrupt

it takes a certain kind of asshole to become a cop especially these days
 

Budley Doright

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When I first saw the video.....I thought the cop cop was wrong....

They then released the vid I posted I changed my mind.....

I clearly see sandy running a stop sign.... and the cop going after her....

Whether she signaled or not....she should have been dui tested....


I have a perfect driving record....and if I did something so stupid I would expect to be dui tested ....and given a ticket.....

I watched this cop stop 2 women and not give them multiple tickets..... the guy IMO....was just doing public safety....

If you dont care about the case quit posting..

This woman was an absolute danger to everyone on the roads.....

WHen she got her recent dui she also had about 6 other tickets that day....

In order to see the truth you must be able to step into the shoes of everyone involved.....

I only wish this cop was the average cop on the street.....

One thing people dont usually realize....is the the 1977 supreme ct mimms decision allows any cop making a legal stop to take this woman out of her car for any reason

in this case to see if she is ok to drive.....

If that were me running the stop.....I would expect to be ticketed at the very least...

I have a perfect record....... I dont expect a cop to give me a break.....

he wasnt even planning on doing that....

Learn the drill.....

If a cop asks you something...say ....

On the advice of my lawyer.... I do not anwer questions from law enforcement...

She says the same thing,....but couldnt keep her yap closed.....

One of our greatest rights is to remain silent...

Its one right we dont take full advantage of.....

If anyone really wants a conspiracy theory....why hasnt one person in the media....

said that poor...poor....sandy ran a stop sign....and didnt have the least clue she did that......

Listen to her..... thats obvious....
 

Budley Doright

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YOu gave me the first neg hit Ive ever got....

Congratulations....

YOu must be one of the nazis who doesnt believe in free speech.....

A real patriot....

Im old.... I double space for readability.....

As far as this goes..... you have proven to be more of a problem than this cop.......

A cop because I know the law???"

rotflmfao.....
I know the law(this part anyway) because Ive been growing for about 40 years.....

There you go adolf.....

No Karma.....

bang away with your silly red dots...

My posts were actually to my growing brothers who dont want to end up in jail....... like this very foolish woman....

I actually think you confuse intelligent conversation for something else....

True enough....I have a 4 year college degree worked as a computer analyst for 25 ....growing for 40 years...

the fact I can think and analyze separates the two of us....mr karma bully......lol

A former mentor on overgrow.....did sick plants....

very rewarding helping the young folks learn to grow....

Why dont you tell everyone a little about yourself adolf????

Im sorry to all who think group think is ok......

God has given me a brain..... and I actually use mine..

Im not going to condemn a cop just for being a cop.....

SOrry....not going to happen....

SHow me a guilty cop and Im on that team.....
 
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