Albany Sour Diesel Clone

[Wolverine97]

it could only be epigenetic, growth patterns are affected from where you take your cuts. I don't see how they could be genetically different?

When I get time later, I will try to find it again.

 

[Wuachuma]

I'm going to have to do some digging... but I saw something a while back where someone was doing genetic testing on clones taken from different parts of the plant. The idea was to test for Somatic Mutations, "genetic drift", or whatever you choose to term it. They found that clones taken from the top of the plant had the most variation as compared to cuts taken from down low. So there's something happening there. I'll dig, hope I can relocate it.

The differing results was phenotypic plasticity caused by different areas of the plant having different levels of growth hormones. Auxins and all that jazz.
For example, the apical meristem and the bottom branches will grow lankier when cloned compared to the more compact growth taken from a branch at the middle of the plant. If you do enough cloning in nurseries you will notice these influences.
Things like feeding alfalfa, kelp, aloe, coconut water have the same influences on growth and expression

 

[Wuachuma]

doc D's Sour D x Dragon Energy
2 of em
The 2nd one has extremely long petioles, which I notice happens on extremely good genetics.

 

[Albanysour]

Sour

 

[BigDoob]

@iriveru idk who said I got cut fished, but it wasn't me. I've said that I got the Albany from the same place that Jay Plantspeaker got the Bloomington headband since I got her

I traded Albany for Chaco with hash nerd and honestly the flower isn't differentiable when finished to me.

 

[Wolverine97]

I would be REALLY interested to read into this. Keep me posted.

So my whole take on it is this.


The sour I may have. Have held for years, and give it to someone else, who then holds it for years in different conditions, maybe a different medium/lights/feed. Over time that plant "mutates" or "drifts" or expresses "plasticity" whatever you want to call it. All in all it's the same plant.

As we all understand it, this is an annual species, maybe it has something to do with keeping these annuals alive for so long. Just riffing here. So much we still have yet to learn.

I have tried to go back and find it but no dice.

I'm pretty sure it was on IG that I saw it, a couple years ago now. I want to say it was a Zenthanol post, but I can't swear to it. I no longer have an IG account, so I can't look there anymore. Youtube didn't turn up what I was looking for. But I definitely saw it, and they were doing gene testing on them, but I can't remember the specifics now. I want to say it was best to take your cuts from down low... but IDK...

 

[Wolverine97]

The differing results was phenotypic plasticity caused by different areas of the plant having different levels of growth hormones. Auxins and all that jazz.
For example, the apical meristem and the bottom branches will grow lankier when cloned compared to the more compact growth taken from a branch at the middle of the plant. If you do enough cloning in nurseries you will notice these influences.
Things like feeding alfalfa, kelp, aloe, coconut water have the same influences on growth and expression

I have no doubt that you're right about that, but that isn't what they were testing. It wasn't about phenotype, but actual genetic changes. Wish I could find it again...

 

[kro-magnon]

The differing results was phenotypic plasticity caused by different areas of the plant having different levels of growth hormones. Auxins and all that jazz.
For example, the apical meristem and the bottom branches will grow lankier when cloned compared to the more compact growth taken from a branch at the middle of the plant. If you do enough cloning in nurseries you will notice these influences.
Things like feeding alfalfa, kelp, aloe, coconut water have the same influences on growth and expression

That's interesting info,I should make an experiment with my next mother plant, I'll take clones from different part of the plants to see how they behave, trying to measure the internodal spacings, if there is some morphology difference in the flowers production as well. The different levels of hormones must have a direct influence on the clones that sounds logic;