Looks like the Captain crip cut we used to grow a decade or more ago
Albany Sour Diesel Clone
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Never had the original Diesel but few years ago I had the knights bridge og. Think this was made with original Diesel by you? It reminded me more of NYC Diesel from the dam around that time. So you're sure the ECSD from Grey Area was Original Diesel? It was kinda purple about like 50% and the smell was the opposite of NYCD,
NYCD was the grapefruit, washing powder one and ECSD just straight sour, diesel gas terps...
Thx for your help!
That was Ladysativa seeds with Knightsbridge OG not me
The cut I'm talking about is straight Gas , no Lemon or Grapefruit at all
No , not purple
Elpharmacist
New member
It looks like Wing Wang and ECSD are closer than original sour and AJ sd.
BerryManilow
Well-known member
From that analysis, yes. The problem is- we don't know which cuts they tested for certain, but the ones tested with the tags original (albany) and AJ are not Sour Diesel.
Another person has also tested a bunch of sour cuts and found they are all the same cut 100%.
Original Diesel
Notsodog
ECSD (Rez cut?)
Skunktek
+ 8 other Sour Diesel cuts in their library are a 90-94% match (same cut or s1 seeds imo).
This also proves what I've been saying for months, that those cuts look the same and all look like original diesel. Dna testing confirms that.
They are soooo similar tho. It could be genetic drift
DannyDiesel
Member
Eh, all that's really saying is that their testing isn't precise enough, doesn't use enough markers to differentiate an S1 from it's "mother", or different sister plants from the same seed lot.
Wuachuma
Well-known member
That broadmite pandemic was no joke.The well known ECSD cuts were always really potent , daytime High ? , not any of the cuts I ran back then.
Captain krip
Hazyfontazys/bachus
Meltingpot
Chaco
Original Diesel
I remember trying it thinking man this is some really potent weed . All this new talk descriptions is so different to the ECSD from early 2000's sounds like the descriptions of the ECSD clone after broadmite pandemic, very strange.
The Original Diesel clone I use is crazy potent, 1 of the strongest and 2 joints and your red eyed up and won't be going for the 3rd joint.
Even 1 fat joint( 2 gram joint) at lunchtime can completely ruin your day , definitely not going for a walk after
2014 I took in Exodus Cheese and NorCalGoo Mom cuts from across the pond.
They came with mites. Nothing like the annoyance of TSM mites - these mites were actually killing the plants.
I went with essential oils for 6 months and it worked. But everyone was reaching for the Bayer/Monsanto chems to kill them and fucked up their plants. I swear those chemicals changed the DNA of the plants and thus we lost some great genetics along the way.
Another issue was all these people hitting the restart button because of mites and assuming all their buddies held backup cuts for them. Then they make the call to get restocked, only to find out their friends had to hit the reset button too.
When these guys are getting 3x the price an ounce and thousands of tens of thousands for clones, do you think they're gonna sacrifice that income by publicly saying "damn, lost it all to mites"?
Nah. Cash is king.
Wuachuma
Well-known member
100%
Testing is based on small points of data and is not a science but merely based upon comparisons resulted from others, and having to trust each one is truthful...all in an industry run by "profits, no matter what"
Genetic drift is a term that shouldn't be used.
It's more like phenotypic plasticity. The genes stay the same. But the expression may change.
Yeah thks for putting that about drift, drift is over a population what you may see with clones is like somatic variation/mutation but I don't even know if thats the right terminology. Phenotypic plasticity refers to the response to the environment ie I have plants that I thought were the dogs bollocks grown in soil with an organic feed and put in someone elses environment ie coco did not perform at all.
I'm going to have to do some digging... but I saw something a while back where someone was doing genetic testing on clones taken from different parts of the plant. The idea was to test for Somatic Mutations, "genetic drift", or whatever you choose to term it. They found that clones taken from the top of the plant had the most variation as compared to cuts taken from down low. So there's something happening there. I'll dig, hope I can relocate it.
I would be REALLY interested to read into this. Keep me posted.
So my whole take on it is this.
The sour I may have. Have held for years, and give it to someone else, who then holds it for years in different conditions, maybe a different medium/lights/feed. Over time that plant "mutates" or "drifts" or expresses "plasticity" whatever you want to call it. All in all it's the same plant.
As we all understand it, this is an annual species, maybe it has something to do with keeping these annuals alive for so long. Just riffing here. So much we still have yet to learn.
Maybe plants develop resistance to pesticides used like how animals develop them for poisons and that changes the way the plants grow after a while .. I believe some pesticides even say the provide cellular resistance if a clone has been passed around and sprayed for years with who knows what to fight bugs and pathogens by every grower it touches it can just be tired vs one that was never passed around the same age
