Bigcrawdaddy2.0
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I’ll post mine up when it’s finished around 10 weeks to compare. I don’t run my sour under LED’s though, 1000w hps
Albany Sour Diesel Clone
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doctor faust
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That's awesome. I saw a clone of Blue Zushi selling for $600 and that's insane to me that anyone would want to pay even more than the price of a timeless classic for a cut of something that people will forget about in a few months.
iriveru
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His prices are kinda wack tbh, he’s still selling the “””Albany””” sour diesel for $400 that was confirmed by the source to be something else lol (to be fair, I don’t know if he’s aware but the kid he got it from confirmed he got cut fished). I would definitely hit up notsodog first but last resort Hash Nerd definitely has the real cut.
Also gmohouseofclones has blue zushi for $250 and even that isn’t worth it IMO. $600 is bananas
BerryManilow
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Not this again. I was responding to ojd, because it's just round and round in circles with you. Please keep your smarmy "Well acktshually" replies directed elsewhere because I'm done going back and forth with you.
The ECSD is not from Rez. Chaco himself confirmed that. Chaco grew the same cut we had. I believe him over you.
Even JJ calls it the ECSD in his Chemdawg history.
Here's Hash Nerd's description that matches exactly what I've been telling you, but you can't ever accept being wrong.
If you're pulling at 9 weeks thats a different cut and/or you're pushing out premature buds. Plain and simple.
and you should at least be growing sour diesel to have such strong opinions on the matter. For what it’s worth, I was smoking sour back in 2007, I never grew it back then, but I bought a lot of it from New York
Gatekeep much? You're telling an international cannabis forum to not have strong opinions on a plant they're very passionate about? Who are you, the Sour Police?
How bout we go one step further then? If you never grew it before 2010, and if you never smoked it before 2005, then you shouldn't have a strong opinion on the matter. It's not your cut, and telling people how to think is hilarious.
Have a great day bud!
Bigcrawdaddy2.0
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Cry all you want, nobody has time to read that essay. Chaco cut is ECSD, NOT the Albany, cry some more. Back to Sour Diesel now…
BerryManilow
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Go chase down 27 more cuts and say they're all the real Sour. Poser.
Jutachi
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I took my cloney 80 days, but tbh I could of cut her at 65-70 and be happy. I was smoking nugs i cut off at day 60 and was getting a super strong heady high. 80 its still there though, but I feel the headyness was more intense around 65-70. Just my opinion or maybe placebo lol. Cloneys cut is straight diesel skunky gas. No sweetness or citrus.. Just got the ECSD Chacos cut in today, so gonna be able to grow her and compare her to the cloney
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iriveru
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100% the smell is pure gasoline in flower, really nothing else diluting it.
Bigcrawdaddy2.0
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Yea I personally like it around 10 weeks. It brings that razor edge high down slightly, but 9 weeks and it’s psychoactive, very heady and intense. I know Cloney was saying it’s like a soaring skunk high at 9 weeks. You ran the Cloney cut beautifully bro, can’t wait to see you run the Chaco side by side
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i.love.scotch
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Its an interesting topic for sure.
To be clear, I'm just talking about one clone. I have no delusions of knowing the "true" Sour. I think it was probably a whole family of clones and hybrids that went around in the early 2000s. Probably several different mashups of Chems and Super Skunks with other things throw in there as well.
I'm guessing the ECSD I know is more on the Super Skunk side of things since it had those more feathery, less dense, less commercially appealing buds. Which is probably why not many people kept her around. Everyone I know loved the smoke but got rid of her eventually. Wasn't really commercially viable compared to other things especially once the Kush wave hit.
Anyway, the ECSD clone I know came up into Eastern Canada from New York in the early 2000s. And then made its way west to BC. That's why it was called the ECSD, cause it was from the East Coast, and we were on the West Coast.... lol. And we already had plenty of our own other Diesels here from ages back.
And I should clarify, the Sprite aroma I'm talking about which I describe as lemon/lime should not be confused with a pure Lemon aroma at all. Its not fruity, its not lemony, I never got much Lemon from ECSD.
It's the soda flavour "lemon/lime" as in 7up or Sprite(which adds confusion I know), which is a bright, sour, sweet sort of smell. The 'bright' or Sour part of the smell is more like citric acid powder than actual lemon and I wouldn't describe it as fruity or anything like that. Maybe like Pinesol minus the pine?? I'm sorry. It was really complex but also really clean and sour and sweet. But this soda flavour is especially noticeable in extracts or vaped flower. Basically another way to describe "fresh sour". And it also came with a healthy dose of fuel.
But what I was trying to highlight is it had none of the axle grease, motor oil, asphalt an earthy type smells that a lot of the Diesel family can have. It was just super sour and super... clean? If that makes sense. Other Diesels I've had have some more dirty, earthy, greasy smells which are aweseome as well but just not what I remember as the ECSD.
And yes we can agree on the skunk. The ECSD clone I know, while sweet and sour up close, definitely skunked a room up from inside the bag. Super loud. It was very bright and sour and lively. As was the high.
As other people have chimed in, Very Very uplifting, feel like a million bucks, take on the world high. I think that's what made it famous. It's obviously not a super edgy sativa, but it had a euphoria and 'coke-like' shit eating grin sort of vibe that I can only describe as extremely uplifting.
Another key attribute of the ECSD I remember was the peach coloured pistils. Creamy peach colour that were short but curled in all directions. Very distinct compared to some other Diesels.
Like I said before. This is just one clone. I'm sure we all remember all different Diesels and Sours. It's all good.
I do think the Rez line and results there-of definitely confused things. Especially because there were different versions of the Rez line. I know someone that just popped old old Rez SD IBL seeds, the 2003 batch I think and they got dense, heavy yielding, skunky, kushy, sour, awesome buds. Really killer.
Obviously the same family as other Sour Diesel clones/lines but just not really bang on to what I knew as the ECSD clone.
This picture (not mine, from Scallywag) actually looks a lot like the ECSD I know. This pic is of a Sour Diesel x SBSE (Sour Best Shit Ever). Those soft curly peach coloured pistils are what strike nostalgia for me.
Whereas this is an AJ Sour Diesel hybrid I grew recently. It was much more in the normal Diesel sort of range with greasy, motor oil, kerosene type aroma and it has the Rez IBL look to me which is that creamy grey green, white sort of look.
And I know... at this point we are totally splitting hairs. I think what there is to remember is that it's all killer stuff. I am genuinely interested in the history of it, which is why I have gone into such nerdy depth with it here lol.
Also I realize this thread is about Albany Sour. Apologies. I can't help it.
I do have some seeds of Albany Sour x Stray Dog that I will grow out and report back here my comparisons. Here is a pic of the Albany from the breeder of these seeds (Two Currents) an honestly it looks a bit different then sour I know. But it seems to match other pictures of the Albany posted in this thread.
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It was definitely knows as East Coast Sour Diesel back then , and obviously Sour Diesel for short , that is fact nothing else.
Reservoir seeds version were all quite different to the actual Sour Diesel clone only, similar expressions but still very different to the exact look most well known cuts give ( chaco , albany etc etc etc all have alot of similar traits apart from Original Diesel , more chem like but offspring throw straight Sour Diesel traits , tongues , etc), look up pics and see what's up and find a Reservoir seeds pop as close to this Albany ( Albany looks legit and like most legit East Coast Sour Diesel clone onlys just all a tiny different.
Also i made a batch for Reservoir seeds of the Sour Diesel IBL he released but I used the Original Diesel clone not East Coast Sour Diesel clone ( after giving Rez flowers to confirm it was ok to use this cut) and got the green light to make project with it so that made things confusing to ( around 2008-9) I didn't see them all get grown or anything as I unfortunately when to prison for 6 months so missed the Rez downfall and snitch on everyone.
1 thing people must know is early Days there was pounds of seeded Diesel or a chemdog sold on streets and maybe that's where all these different Diesel cuts come from ( like I say every well known Diesel cut I've ever grown or smoked all had that loud Diesel but some more than others, and small differences , some much easier to get that Funk to come out.
Also you would get bagseed in some legit Sour Diesel cuts and also she was very sensitive to light leaks or whatever throwing seeds , again making possibilities of these very similar Sour Diesel clones with different names attached.
Yeah I hear you, that's why i said we all interpret smell/taste quite different sometimes, but honestly I never had Lemon in any Sour Diesel clone myself, Chaco, Meltingpot, Captain Krip , Hazyfontazy/Bachus125 but I admit I've seen people I know mention they get a slight lemon twang even growing some of the cuts so I agree maybe the smallest touch in that insane loud Skuny Funky Gas
Also just for the records the Chaco cut and Meltingpot cuts did look near identical to this Albany cut everyone is posting ,
Hazyfontazys/bachus cut looked a little more like the notsodog cut people posting
And the Captain Krip cut looked more like the early version people posting( 10 week cut ) that and the Original Diesel clone only were the only 2 that were 10 weeks , all other cuts I mentioned were weak in Terps and High if taken at 10 weeks and needed 11 weeks minimum, more 12 weeks
Hazyfontazys/bachus cut looked a little more like the notsodog cut people posting
And the Captain Krip cut looked more like the early version people posting( 10 week cut ) that and the Original Diesel clone only were the only 2 that were 10 weeks , all other cuts I mentioned were weak in Terps and High if taken at 10 weeks and needed 11 weeks minimum, more 12 weeks
When it's delicious and reminds me of citrus that I can't quite identify I call it space citrus.
Where does “swerves” cut come from anyone know ?
I used to know Chaco and he didnt like it got that tag "Chaco" as it is ECSD. there is only one ECSD cut, all other are fakes. and real cut can get different tags according where it comes from. Chaco or DHK.
if some "sour diesel" is finishing at 9 weeks, it is not real deal ECSD.. no way.
if some "sour diesel" is finishing at 9 weeks, it is not real deal ECSD.. no way.
