african duban goodness?

[Ancient One]

Hey Guys,
I have Durban Poison seeds from both Afropips and Seedsman. I have 5 plants going now, unfortunately all the rain we have had has washed off the names from the pots. Not sure which is which. Any information or advice on growing these would be much appreciated.
Seeds

 

[African herbman]

AHM...
Yo bro,
I think the top 2 dont remind of anything African I have ever seen. The bottom one definitly a looker of SA herb. Whats up with the plants atm? How'd you get them to that stage without flowering? Indoors? (lol@ the riccoffy tincan) How old are the pics?

Yea man, that top one is pretty weird looking but if you see it in person you will see that it looks like some SA herb (really lanky, not dense and squat like Indica) but with fat ass leaves, I think another member was talking about sativas possibly growing fat leaves when stressed and thinning out with age, so maybe this will too. How was the “White ice” by the way, decent smoke? Makes me immediately think of a hybrid between white widow and ice due to the name.

What stage do you mean? You mean how branchy they are for their height?
The plants are the same as I found them, I took the pics 2 days after finding them. That’s why I thought they looked interesting and prompted me to take them, oh and the coffee can and coke bottle bottom was all I was able to put them in at the time, but since their very fragile now, I will wait until they set roots and start putting out new growth before putting them in new appropriate pots with some good soil and indoors under 12/12.

To answer your question as to what I’m planning to do with them, well… I would like too see how good the herb is at the end and make seeds for future controlled growth indoors etc if it’s worth it, I would also like to make a mother from a keeper if one presents herself.

 

[ticktickbong]

Very interesting reply! I enjoyed the riccofee pot by the way! It's so, so local its lekker LOL!
I meant what stage you found them in ie vedge/flower(seeing that winter was here..) I also have plants in the same hight catagory that have started flowering due to staggered or accedental winter-outdoor growing.

" I will wait until they set roots and start putting out new growth before putting them in new appropriate pots with some good soil and indoors under 12/12." ---seen. Good idea.

The white Ice.. I could send you a bean for personal experience with the strain? It is a very consistant smoke. Thats all I know. Tastes the same every single time...ever since I first encountred it. I find it strange to say the least. R300 for a bankie?? I find myself scoring every week. I am a heavy smoker, and for consistent 6/10 stone(indica dom) it worth a try for any connesuer. Dont even try and searh the strain... I personally think that it's a name someone here gave it. It is very potent for anyone that expects to find a mild bankie experience. It is in fact so good, that I have stoped asking around for the local to help me out(which ONE person was able to do).

Safe

 

[ticktickbong]

Hey Guys,
I have Durban Poison seeds from both Afropips and Seedsman. I have 5 plants going now, unfortunately all the rain we have had has washed off the names from the pots. Not sure which is which. Any information or advice on growing these would be much appreciated.
Seeds

Hey Ancient One,

These plants look very nice. I am not versed in the cultivation of this, legendary magical sativa. You have to be very temperature and humidity aware. Durban during Summer can reach up to 35degrees celcius, with a hunidity of > 60%. The more inland the dryer. Durban is a coastal town in the stunning Kwa Zulu Natal. Check out this link for some solid personal investigation of the Durban weather data.

http://www.safarinow.com/cms/durban-and-kzn-coast/irie.aspx

(this what I do when I want to duplicate environmets for grows) Duplicating an environment is the only road to 100% success imho. I care for tropical animals, and the only way they thrive, is when the plants thrive, and the ambient surroundings replicated as close to nature as normal. I struggle to think that one can fail.

Try Afropips for more info.

 

[Ancient One]

ticktickbong
Hey man thanks for the kind words. I appreciate the link. Climate here is similar, Southeast US , 30 something in lattitude. Temps currently over 100 degrees with the humidty over 70%. The has been the wettest year on record to date. The heavy rains messed things up. First round of plants panted in the ground drowned to death. Durban seeds were germinated the end of may and finally went in the ground first part of Aug. They are beautiful plants, I really love long thin leaves. I hear you about the high. I am a daily smoker and I like all kinds of pot. Indicas are great after a hard days work. When I talk about getting high, I mean that your perception of things changes. It is easy to get carried away with a train of thought, your senses highten, colors are brighter,sounds sharper and clearer, you can appreciate nature around you in a different way, makes you feel like your part of things. You laugh very quickly, you feel relaxed, in the moment. The more you smoke the more your perceptions change, you can become freaked out of sights and sounds that normally wouldn't do that. I find that the very best sativas I have smoked do have a spiritual element, it makes me more aware of my life of the things I do to survive. and it puts me in pensive or reflective mood which is helpful when dealing with problems in life. Helps me to see what is important. The best I have smoked was Thai: Thai stick, budda stick, falling rain, many different names. It never failed to enhance my life, work, nights entertainment, kicking back with friends just listening to music. I smoked some good sativas since, Columbia, Mexico, Hawaii but they had more in raw power than in those more reflective mood changes. Had mushrooms a few times in my youth, always had good experiences, I have read and heard allot about Durban Poison over the years and hopefully I will get to experience a legendary high. Gee I'm really wordy. Try to post some pictures later.
Take Care

 

[African herbman]

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The white Ice.. I could send you a bean for personal experience with the strain? It is a very consistant smoke. Thats all I know.

Thanks bro, I appreciate the offer. I think we should talk about this subject via private messages as to not break the rules here LOL. Only problem is that I don’t have enough posts to view or post private messages, so it seems I’ll have to get back to you at a later stage, I could give you my E-mail address?

Sweet looking plants there Ancient One, It’s always interesting to see the different Dp phenos for sale out there, I agree with you about the long thin leaves…beautiful!
Mine had slightly fatter leaves but about the same length, especially one of the two phenos which had more skunk influence, especially in the smell!
Just a point of interest, I smoked some of my Dp (ones in pics on first page) as soon as the buds were dry just to get a taste of what the girls were all about, but was sadly disappointed at the high, but I proceeded to cure them anyway. Now that they have been cured for about 4 weeks (and still curing) the high has improved ten fold, so much clearer and inspirational. It’s a super energetic high that you can’t stop moving around from…really nice. So if yours turn out the same as mine, the high should only express itself with a good cure.

Good luck with your grow,
Ah

 

[African herbman]

oh yea, here's a pic of all the plants I found, together......

Notice the state of the art pots, lol.

cheers.

 

[Guest]

Interesting plants you found by the roadside, the wider leaved one is not that strange to my eyes, the Swazi I grew from African Seeds stock had borad leaves early on and only expressed its sativa side fully in flower, I have read that African strains often do this. I've seen the same thing in other sativas too. If they are still broad in full flower, it's got some indica in it, if the leaves are thin are sativa in full flower, it may well be a pure sativa.

Some weed picked from the roadside in Zimbabwe was very potent and electric effect. Wierd story of how a bunch of brown, sundried weed made its way to northern England. In my first year at Univeristy (1994) I met a huge rugby player from Rhodesia (he refused to call it Zimbabwe), he was a deeply christian white guy, about 6ft 7 and massively broad, made me look small and Im 6ft 2, was about 230lbs at the time and he towered over me. He sat and ate a whole 18 inch deep pan pizza and then started eatign a second one, he polished that off and I couldn't believe what I had seen. He looked at me and said 'What's wrong, can't you eat two pizzas?' In his thick Rhodesian accent (which I found amusing) and I burst out laughing, n fact i laughed so much, he thought I was a bit strange, until I explained I was stoned and that's why I couldn;t help giggling like a fool. 'Ah, you like to smoke!' He says, 'in Rhodesia, the plants grow all the way from my house to the road'. Nice, I thought, then he expalined he lived on a farm and it was 5 miles from his house to the road. '5 miles of cannabis!' I exclaimed. 'Sure man, it's a weed' he said with a shrug of his huge shoulders. He went home at the end of term, and on the first day of the next term, there was a knock on my door, and when I opened it, stood there with a plastic bag with some brown stalks sticking out the top, was this huge Rhodesian guy, he'd brought me half a dozen large colas he had picked from the roadside. They were a darkish brown, he'd dried them in the sun after flattening them out a bit by laying them on a rock and hitting them with another fist-sized rock, as he told me the locals did where he lived. He wasn't a smoker, none of his family did, but as he said 'all the black guys love to smoke this weed' they smash it flat with rocks and dry it in the sun. That weed was a really potent smoke, very oily feeling to the touch, hard to break up as it was hard from drying in the sun, if some wild plants grabbed from the roadside, beaten with rocks and laid out in the sun to dry, then stuffed in a suitcase and flown to England can be so good, I imagine with proper care, it could be awesome.

Good luck with those roadside plants, wish I could find plants growing at the side of the road here!

 

[Ancient One]

ticktickbong, here are a couple of more pictures of the Durban, thanks again for the help and it is always nice to meet another lover of that wonderful Sativa high.

African Herbsman, thanks, My partner and I are eager to experience the Durban high. I think African Strains are not as popular as they should be because they are long season plants and I hear they can be difficult indoors, although British Hempire has produced some very nice looking plants. I'm fortunate to live where they can go to late Nov and in a greenhouse could go to Jan. I hear you about the cure, just hope I can wait that long.

If you guys get a chance visit our thread in the outdoor forum, I'll try to keep it updated as things progress.

OLD DUDES GROW Durban, Mexican, Afghan
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=65783
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Durban Female

 

[ticktickbong]

exciting sativa

exciting sativa

...and it is always nice to meet another lover of that wonderful Sativa high.

African Herbsman, thanks, My partner and I are eager to experience the Durban high. I think African Strains are not as popular as they should be

Couldnt have said it better myself. I have been looking around on various sites at some of the sativa strains on sale out there. Any proper "South African" seed grown into something special when time is spent on it. Whats more, some of the well grown sativas make for extremely interesting experiences. Here its a question of popping any seeds found in Swazi Baggies and hoping for the best. A good friend of mine has started sifting through some of the varieties that we have picked up over the years, now starting to grow them, because we have both only recently became private enough in our living environments for expereimenting can commence. We are also in the process of testing various ♀ plants for potency. Taste and aroma is a curing issue, I have experienced that too.

Personally I have been sceptical about South African wild seeds because they have all been poorly grown! ..but it was ignorance. Never realised that the grower is the ultimate pilot of any plants destiny. Hence, there will be a few interesting varieties available on the market within a few years to come.

Most of these varieties will have geographically based names, save for a few that is commonly used in witchcraft practises here().
Being a keen follower of the traditional medicine trend in this country, it is an interesting and yet untapped source of interesting sativa genetics.

I am not a botanist, but all the wild mj i have ever encountered here is SATIVA. Same with most of my friends. Sativa to the degree where we all believed imported indica varieties were the holy grail. Those days are over.

I am aware of a female sativa with MOST POTENT HIGH I have ever encountred. This ♀ has become a proud mother, and will be giving back to nature bountyfull pure African Magic. She is an absolute family secret, and only a select few will ever taste her. She will be a seeding mommy in future for sure 100% Admittedly I am not well versed in all strains. I have tasted Jack Herrer, NL, and a two or three potent indicas grown in Holland. The taste and aroma is out of this world. But there is a certain type of spiritual side of the experience absent. I think I have tasted top indica. Waitning for a NYCD X g13 haze to come through a 12/12 regime. Maybe it will change mind about this picture.

You cannot go wrong with African Sativas if you are after that sacred experience. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree as it were, but I am convince I cannot be the only person that get a spiritual kick (very trippy too) out of our own plants. Truely different. Again, it could also be a certain strain that is endemic to a small area 45 mins drive from Johannesburg central. 30 min drive basically you can say. It was taken fromthe pavement in an informal settlement were it looked very neglected. I will post a picture if I figure out how to. I am not a pc man.

Did the Durban info help any? I will also try and(REALY AND TRUELY) to find out about soil quality in that part of the world. I will call a Durban based Nursery and ask an expert for info.

 

[ticktickbong]

Lol ... broad leaved wild growing African Sativas... what can I say? Rubbish.

 

[RAGGA MON]

oh yea, here's a pic of all the plants I found, together......

Notice the state of the art pots, lol.

cheers.

Those definately look like they will be more sativa than indica. love to see the outcome though.
cheers
RAGGA

 

[RAGGA MON]

Yo Ragga Mon.

Lovely plant there m8. Best local zaan I ever had was Ciskei. Yummy, tell you what. Was that bud grow from seed? Stunner, gonna kick some ass. There are local strains (RSA) thats knocked me flat before, I am searching for some to grow. Think I found something sick... This thing is in a greenhouse, and a very dark type of green in the leaves. nice and tall. THICK stem. Its gonna be a monster yeild on Nitrosol for the summer vedge ahead. Fingers crossed for dank shyte

Ya they were from seed. As far as your quest go's.........take a drive towards durban or kruger and hit some of the townships out in the middle of nowhere
that is where you will strike it rich m8..believe

 

[lowridersa]

Awesome topic man, just spent the last few minutes scanning through and my mouth is on my keyboard looking at the pics. African herbman, you must have also experienced some snow as it looked like it fell onto your swazi buds below , flip man, never seen such beautiful buds. Any tips on growing local swazi's like that,

SA is like hit and miss, there is so much great weed, just grown in a string and also possibly harvested as fast as possible for good reason.

Will be back soon and post some pics.

Some really good swazi if anyones interested.

 

[Ancient One]

ticktickbong
Thanks again for all the info. I'm really intrigued by all the reports I hear of African strains, I already love SE Asia strains, sure haven't had as much of them as I want. I think there is some magic in the subtropics to the tropics that works on sativas. The high is unique. Any info you can provide would be very valuable as it comes straight from the source, I hope there are enough similarities in our climates that we can try to give the plants the proper care as they flower and mature. Icmag sure is grand. I'll keep checking back on this thread frenquently . Can't believe I didn't check this out sooner, lots of good people and info on this forum.
Ancient One

 

[African herbman]

lowridersa, thanks for The awesome compliments man, it’s always good to have someone appreciate your stuff, well… to be honest, I friend of mine grew that Swazi. He came to me for help when his plants started flowering and he didn’t know which were males or females, so I helped him out by telling him to pull the males and made him some special organic nutes for flowering and explained to him how and when to use them. I also went to his house to check his plant out and was quite impressed with the Swazi he was growing, it was from swaz bag seed and he must of just struck it lucky with some quality genetics because it wasn’t the usual shit swaz so common her.
So it was a partnership LOL, he kept it in his garden and I looked after it, and it turned out to be some dank shit.

I was happy to help him out because he’s now learnt the basics to a good grow and is nearing harvest of his second grow he did by himself, although I did throw in some nutes hehehe.(it’s ak-48 by the way)

As for tips on growing some good Swazi, my biggest tip would be to get hold of some good Swazi genetics and not the normal everyday Swaz. Which can often be hard, I would suggest sourcing the best Swaz you can buy, smoke, and collect seeds from your favorite Swaz pickup and hopefully you will come across some good genetics worth growing, then grow it as you would anything else decent. I think it really depends on whether you get some pure, quality Swazi and not the normal inbred, mass grown shite. Oh yea, the Swazi in the pics was full on outdoor.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, I’m pretty dam baked right now LOL.
Regards everyone. Ah

 

[ticktickbong]

Managed to get some more "swaz" two weeks ago which I am curing in a special bottle. I know it badly grown and harvested way to early(thats the way swaz gets to me). Harvested all the seeds, and will do a grow report on some swazi seeds as soon as I can get my head around getting some sort of watering system that I wouldnt have to check every single day. I was thinking of 3 X 2L coca-cola bottles... Link them with swimming pool pipes to create a tri-angular submergible watering system.
I will puncture the swimming pool pipes with a fine sharp object to make the water come out slow enough, yet fast enough for it to trickle empty over a three or four day period. All I will need to do is go there every 4-5 days and water down into the bottles..fill them up, screw the lid back on, and there is more watering(passive). wot yall think.?

 

[African herbman]

Hey man, were does your swaz come from, sounds like the way they grow it down in KZN and bring it up hear, you know, the badly grown heavily seeded stuff.
I’ve actually noticed something odd about cheap Swazi compared the more expensive Swazi up my end. I notice that the very cheap Swaz (comes in matchbox for R5) grows very differently to normal Swaz, much shorter (about 20cm high before it starts flowering), branches very early, but most strangely seems to almost auto flower (maybe just really really early flowering). I have experienced this phenomenon to a certain extent cos I haven’t grown many of these swazi’s, but a friend of mind threw a bunch of these cheap Swaz seeds into his flower box and the plants (3 male, 2 female) started flowering after about 4 weeks. Males and females at the same time, strangest thing was that it was the middle of summer and daylight hours were too long to trigger natural flowering. I would like to grow some out my self and look into this trait for myself, but when I’m not so busy. Could be very interesting, I have some theorys as to why it may happen, what you think, any ideas?

You mean a kind of drip system for watering your plants? Your idea could work although the hard part would be getting it to drip perfectly and constantly. Enough to keep the soil moist but not too much as to drown them, I think it will be hard to gauge. Why not try see if you can buy a cheap dripper at a nursery, I should imagine they sell all kinds of devices for watering house plants when ur on holiday and what not. It’s worth a look I think. It would be very nice to see a Swazi grow report, hopefully you’ll strike it lucky with some good genetics.

Regards,
Ah.

 

[African herbman]

I should be finally getting some compressed bud from Kenya tomorrow; apparently it’s very decent stuff, even for compressed. The main reason for the pick up is to get some nice landrace genetics from Africa, which are always nice to have in the seeds collection. I try to collect as many landrace genetics as possible because I like breeding landrace genetics together, rather than hybrids.
I’ll let you guys know what the smoke’s like and post some pics of the pickup.
Anyone got any experience with Kenyan strains?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, as I would like to grow some out soon.
Cheers.
P.S. ticktickbong - This is what I was trying to describe as automatic watering systems you could use for the Swazi: http://www.gardenerscottage.com/water.htm the water spike looks pretty decent since you can hook it up to a 2l bottle.

 

[mudbutt]

so how is the malawi doing? im interested because i want to buy this strain.

are you growing it indoors? under what kind of lights?
has anybody ever done analasys on the buds to see if they really have thvc in them as he claims on the website, or do all buds have that?