Advancing Eco Agriculture, Product Science

[Microbeman]

Precisely why I keep nearly the whole lineup on hand at all times. Also why I originally bought it when you could still buy quarts. So I could patch in whatever the plants needed if I had a deficiency. If you wait til you need it to order it's no good. Sap analysis says it'll show a week before you'll see it in the plant you can detect it in the sap. Got to be on top of things...

FE: Do you actually use the sap analysis? Nobody seems prepared to answer my questions in that thread, so maybe you can make it make sense to me here.

 

[Bulldog420]

Thought I would throw up some pics I took today to show how things are going with AEA.

Cherry Pie

NL #5

Room to improve for sure, but happy overall.

 

[FatherEarth]

MM,

Closest I can get to sap analysis is monitoring the PH to correct imbalances before they effect plant growth. Im not aware of any company doing sap analysis on cannabis as of yet. Some here have talked about it but I havent seen any reports so far. Nova crop control really seems to have it down well. Watch some of their videos and you cant get much clearer than that. What are your questions?


FE

 

[FatherEarth]

 

[Bulldog420]

So has anybody actually used the PM remedy from AEA? I found a spot or two on my OG twist where branches were laying on each other. Did a spot treatment with Greencure but was thinking some AEA action might be smart as well. That remedy is for foliar spray correct? No fertigation?

 

[milkyjoe]

Blast it with 1gallon per acre sea shield and sea crop plus micro 5000 and pep c.

Sea shield alone fixes my zucchinis when I neglect them. But that shield/crop combo is unreal. Sea crop use to scare me but now I wouldn't do without it...tsp a day for me personally...dogs love it, chickens love it...magic fucking elixar

Edit...wasn't even gonna say it but watch what that late 1 gallon blast of sea crop does to trichomes and smell.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I told you sea crop was bomb.

Pepzyme and sea crop is a good combo

 

[Bulldog420]

So just foliar then correct?

Also, you guys can see from the pics my buds have a fair amount of crap on them from the foliar applications. Do you guys follow up with pure H20?

 

[milkyjoe]

Foliar yes.

Wash off no way. Leave it for the microbes to eat.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/h...gclid=CLeY16SymcECFQGVfgodCC4Auw&gclsrc=aw.ds

Found the above heater to use as an assist for the solar collectors for my radiant floor ...Thought other people would appreciate the find.

 

[cannascholar]

Did a final feed today of every organic bottle at roughly 15ml per gallon except Ca,seacrop, sea shield, and micropak. Went lighter(50oz to 200 gal) with those. Results were astounding I'll post pics soon.

Does anyone know if using Esscent Shield in foliars/dunks harms biology?

 

[Bulldog420]

So that was a soil drench? When is your harvest, how many weeks out?

 

[cannascholar]

2 weeks or so if the weather holds, some sooner. Gary wasn't lying when he said the trichomes wouldn't go into senescence until the leaves started dropping. He also advised me to continue fertigating til the end of harvest.

My coco soil is less ideal and only lightly amended after dep so I fertigate and foliar more often and the plants go love it. A smaller garden in roots 707 bags and vermifire are on the verge of burning due to the soil being hotter and high application rates.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

It takes extremly small amounTs of e shield for noticeable results, extreme caution with it. With proper care, it's over no concern and the PSMs and terpenes in it are actually like plant steroids.

 

[DrFever]

Yes it is

Silicon: its role is defence
In view of all this, we have to face up squarely to the
dilemma that weighty arguments can be made both for
and against the view that silicon plays a significant role
in plants. What is the solution of this conundrum? What
role has evolution assigned to this element? The answer is
defence – defence against environmental onslaughts, both
biotic and abiotic. Under the artificially benign conditions
of the plant physiological greenhouse or controlled
environment facility silicon often cannot be shown to
make much difference. Out in the real world, however,
the world of the field, plants are the targets of a host
of assaults: insects and other herbivores, bacteria, fungi,
wind, cold, heat, salinity, mineral and water shortages
or excesses – it is in defence against such onslaughts
that silicon comes into play. When considering the role
of silicon in plants we must therefore make a rather
sharp distinction between plants under fairly benign and
definitely adverse conditions.

Defence: physical
Let us then briefly discuss what organisms can do to
defend themselves against external threats, physical ones
to begin with. The rooted plant lacks the locomotive
and behavioural means that animals have to defend
themselves. The plant cannot run away, it cannot claw or
bite or growl. It has only two means of defence: physical
and chemical. The physical features include structures
such as thorns, spines, trichomes, raphides, rough, tough
epidermal cells, and hard shells and pods. Many plants
armour themselves with solid hydrated amorphous silica,
or opal, incorporated in cell walls. There is ample evidence
for the protection that silicon often provides plant species
against insect pests. Reinforcement of the cell wall by
deposition of solid silica in them is one of the ways in
which this protection is effected. Currie and Perry (2007)
have discussed the biomineralization of silicon

against insect pests. Reinforcement of the cell wall by
deposition of solid silica in them is one of the ways in
which this protection is effected. Currie and Perry (2007)
have discussed the biomineralization of silicon


http://ggha.ucdavis.edu/Seminars/SSC290.W10.paper.pdf

 

[milkyjoe]

Show and tell. Here is the original "mary jane" formula from aea before the BA trials or sea shield.

In the original soil...and all in acres...2 gal rejuv, 50 grams spectrum and 12.5 ounces pep c.

Transplant solution...1gal rejuv, 3 qts pht-p, 2 qts photomag and sea crop, 1 qt micropak and sea stim, 1lb biogenesis and 12.5 ounces pep c

Weekly fertigation...1 qt hypercap, pht p, pht ca, micropak and rejuvenate. 1pt seastim and crop.

Weekly foliar...2 gts hypercap, 1 qt photomag and pht p and 1 pt sea stim, crop and micropak

 

[DrFever]

This a awesome thread peeps Got to love foliar feeding i do it all the time in veg as well up 3 - 4 th week of flower Zinc n iron
In systems without soil, such as hydroponics, nutrient interactions can occur within the root zone that makes it difficult for plants to absorb certain minerals due to binding and antagonism between the nutrients. Iron deficiency occurs in many of these crops when they are stressed by low temperatures. Therefore, hydroponics have a special need for foliar feeding. There is also the issue of nitrate oversupply in hydroponics as this is usually the only form of nitrogen used in the two-part hydroponic solutions. The ammonium form of nitrogen can be foliar applied to provide more of a balance (with an associated increase in crop quality).

 

[milkyjoe]

Dr Fever...for foliar N check out a product called ferti nitro. It is 80% aminos and peptides. It saves the plant energy because that ammonical N just gets oxidized to nitate anyways and then broken down to aminos then peptides then protein. You can save the plant a lot of energy that it can use for better things

 

[Bulldog420]

Well the labels for BA are going to be complete soon. Hopefully the product will be to market in a few weeks.

Quit your sales pitches bro. It's against TOU's and I personally am sick of it.

Show and tell. Here is the original "mary jane" formula from aea before the BA trials or sea shield.

In the original soil...and all in acres...2 gal rejuv, 50 grams spectrum and 12.5 ounces pep c.

Transplant solution...1gal rejuv, 3 qts pht-p, 2 qts photomag and sea crop, 1 qt micropak and sea stim, 1lb biogenesis and 12.5 ounces pep c

Weekly fertigation...1 qt hypercap, pht p, pht ca, micropak and rejuvenate. 1pt seastim and crop.

Weekly foliar...2 gts hypercap, 1 qt photomag and pht p and 1 pt sea stim, crop and micropak

Awesome post Milky. Do you think that's what is in Bio Ad? I couldn't imagine Bio Ad without Sea Shield.

 

[TerpeneTom]

Day 35 Bloom

K in marginal range - boost for quality
Ca & Mg in optimum range -- When applying Calcium Nitrate add Boron (.002 lbs/100 sq.ft) increases fruit set
Zn - Fe & Cu excessive
Mn & S in optimum range.
B tests marginal - boost every 7-10 days foliar starting 1-2 weeks before 1st bloom.

I have been applying a myriad of AEA products as well which I believe has led to the excessive rates of the few elements, I just ordered PHT Potassium to apply immediately. Solution has been steady ~450 PPM for the last two weeks via continual add backs of 400 PPM solution (240 PPM Jack's, 160 PPM CalNit). This is one phenotype within a shared reservoir with three other phenotypes.

I've got SeaCrop, SeaStim, Photomag, NutriLive package, and MicroPak. Should I apply any of these immediately? I'm looking at the boron concentrations...