Advancing Eco Agriculture, Product Science

[cannascholar]

A good starting point is to use almost everything with the exception of micropak(avoiding B overfeeding) at 15 ml per gal. 1 ml per gal is less feasible unless you prefer to feed everytime or if your plants aren't that healthy. If your plants take the 15ml per gal do another application and it will be the same as doing 1 oz per gal.

Can't wait for Biological Advantage.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

The labeling is currently in the last phases of development , microbial products are being analyzed by third party lab and product briefs are almost finalized. I will drop a promo code and website you can order from and a contact number for their West Coast customer service and tech support guy once my friends at Biological advantage tell me that products are ready to ship.

 

[milkyjoe]

That is probably good advice...except maybe sea crop...you go that high?

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I couldn't imagine using 15 to 30ml per gallon of SeaCrop unless you were walking up to virgin native soil you're looking to build

 

[cannascholar]

Good point I actually went 20mL on the sea crop today, usually I would go less but noticed byf said he was increasing sea crop usage this month. My soil tested high for Na and AEAs products seem to contain a lot of it so I go heavy on Spectrum extra, biogenisis and pepzyme.

How is that soil you recommended earlier from the east coast? Has anyone considered trying AEA's soil?

 

[Backyard Farmer]

That would be the same keystone bio ag potting soil

 

[milkyjoe]

Yea...aea will sell it to you but it is from PA. It is keystone bio ag greenhouse media. It I s fantastic for starting plants. They get that waxy sheen john talks about.

But you will fairly quickly run low on K and N. And it has an ec of 0.3 so it needs fertilizer to go full crop in. I plan to get a couple of yards for beds along with an aea soil test. I will post the results.

Its on the expensive side because of shipping. But if you reuse it is a good buy in my mind. Made by people who believe in albrecht ratios

 

[surfguitar]

I did 1oz per gal of seacrop, seastim, micropak, pht-p, seashield, photomag and 1/4tsp pz1000. Used that for 3 4x4 beds and the plants seem to take well, gonna try halfing it next go tho in a couple days.

Any tips for beating root aphids? I think I've nearly gotten rid of them with a shit load of neem meal and neem/essential oil foliars but not quite 100%, trying to load up the plants with nutrients hence the reason for trying the 1oz per gal ratios. Any expiernce with botanigard? Gonna order up some neamtodes today.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I need to send them the memo to increase the EC to .7

 

[milkyjoe]

That would be convienient. But it is a starter for veggies..they may not wanna go from 0.7 to field soil. That is also one of my failed experiments. It goes from high energy to low and the plant just says fuck it.

But it won't be hard to figure out and you aren't dealing with crazy K from the get go. Lots of organic matter and good drainage. And a big ol load of dry sea shield.

Once you actually see the waxy surface without excess N it is something you won't forget. When it rains the water is still beaded on those leaves hours after my other plants

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Yeah , they don't like to go down , they only like more. .7 is good for the whole time.

I'm going to try to get them to make a ganj mix.

I heard there's an important meeting happening this week regarding BA. Going to have my inside man ask of they can get keystone to make a ganj version to offer with the nutrients

 

[milkyjoe]

You should try a bag in place of the black and gold. You won't believe the diff.

And you knpw how I feel about soil designed for BA. To me that allows people to go high yield, high quality organics from the get go. Probably cut 3-4 yrs off learning curves

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Well , I talked to my inside man , he said he is going to talk to the pertinent people on Thursday.

He also thinks it is a great approach to offer the entire package.

The nutrients can make so so or great soil go to the next level , but if you have everything right it really works.

2 lbs per lamp with an s1 bubba

 

[milkyjoe]

If your inside man is technical have him ask john about the proton pressure theory of pH. A citation would be nice. And then ask him what sap pH should now be given higher frequency electromagnetic radiation

 

[Diggaz]

What is a good dollar figure/gallon on some of these multi product foliar/drench regimens? I could do the math myself but surly some of you guys using these have figured out a rough estimate.

 

[Pangea]

I average out at $30 per gallon/product.
At 128oz/gal thats roughly 25 cents per gallon, per product rough average when using 1oz/gal and purchasing 1 gallon bottles.

 

[bamboogardner]

AEA Remedy Recipes for PM & Spider Mites

AEA Remedy Recipes for PM & Spider Mites

Here are the recommended remedies for both PM and Spider Mites for those using AEA Products.

Remedy Recipes using AEA products:

Powdery Mildew/ anthracnose pressure: Apply as a fine mist foliar spray two times, five days apart, mix with 20 gallons of water.

Product Foliar rate
SeaCrop 1 Gal.
SeaStim 2 Gal.
MicroPak 1 Qt.
PHT-Calcium 1 Gal.

Spider Mites: Apply as fine mist foliar, mix with 20 gallons of water. For any small pest pressure it can also be beneficial to add Micro 5000 and Pepzyme to the foliar.

Product Foliar rate
SeaStim 1 Gal.

 

[theJointedOne]

good info to have out there.

 

[TerpeneTom]

This is a leaf surface. Fungi? Very fragile, delicate white strands.

I've applying AEA products - SeaStim, SeaCrop, Photomag, Micropak, Nutrilive grow, Nutrilive Vitality - on a somewhat haphazard schedule, but the plants clearly respond to the applications.

 

[FatherEarth]

It appears so. I see something similar on my leaf surfaces usually with insect carcasses suspended in the fungal web. If you have mites they will no longer dwell under the leaf surface but instead be on top of the leaf exhibiting strange behavior. Weird stuff.