SteWeed1994
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Hi guys, somebody know the difference about advanced nutrients Ph perfect ?
-Sensi
-Connosseiur
Grow-micro-bloom
-Sensi
-Connosseiur
Grow-micro-bloom
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Advanced nutrients question
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I and some friends have used Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect in the past when it first came out and got some bad results. We threw that stuff in the trash after losing a lot of time and money. Went back to tried and true nutrients and have not gone back.
SteWeed1994
Member
what u mean with tried and true nutrients? can make me some example by brand?
is one year im started grow, i try until now biobizz for soil and GHE for hydro, now will try advanced nutrients for both, lets see.
is one year im started grow, i try until now biobizz for soil and GHE for hydro, now will try advanced nutrients for both, lets see.
The Sensi A&B is good stuff I have had good results many times. The Connoisseur is much stronger and I only played with a sample size.
I like AN additives Big Bud, Overdrive and Voodoo Juice
I like AN additives Big Bud, Overdrive and Voodoo Juice
Negreenthumb420
New member
I’ve run Sensi for over 10 years, half strength at most during bloom, never had any issues. I literally only run Sensi and calmag depending on strain / week. At times, I would run the connoisseur, I didn’t notice any difference with the end results.
SteWeed1994
Member
thanks for your opinion, in the meantime I tried to ask advanced nutrients directly, I would say it's acceptable, at least until I receive my results !
"All of the products are compatible with both hydroponics or soil.
In regards to Grow, Micro, Bloom and the Sensi Grow/Bloom series Composition and performance wise, they are very similar.
The one advantage of the Sensi is the fact that there is an A+B pair for both grow and bloom cycles, allowing them to be geared towards the stage of growth they’re being used in.
With the 3 part nutrients, there are usually 2 scenarios a grower would want to use them over the Sensi Line.….
1. The grower likes a 3 part format (this is due to the popularity of 3 part nutrients dating back to the 1980’s, some growers just prefer this format)
2. The grower is using Autoflower genetics (This takes the guesswork of wondering when to switch to a bloom nutrient, since every set of autoflowers will “flip” to flower a bit differently)
The Connoisseur line of base nutrients are specifically formulated to take advantage of highly tuned growing environments. For example sealed rooms with split A/C and CO2 supplementation.
If growing in soil we would recommend using an inert soil without a built in fertilizer charge such as Sunshine Mix #4 or ProMix HP.
If using a soil with a built in fertilizer charge we would delay base nutrient application until the final week of the soil's built in fertilizer charge to avoid potentially overfeeding the plants, you can use the supplements as shown on the schedules in the meantime. Additionally you can use Sensi Cal/Mag Xtra at a rate of 2mL/L of water given to the plants in an effort to round out the nutrient profile in the soil. When you introduce the base nutrients you can discontinue the cal/mag supplementation.
You can refer to our feeding schedules found at https://www.advancednutrients.com/feeding/
Week one of the vegetative phase feeding schedule would begin when a seedling has it's second set of true leaves past the cotyledon or a clone/cutting has it's second set of new growth leaves.
Week one of the flowering phase when growing photoperiod indoor plants would begin the day you flip your lights. If growing autoflowers or outdoors you begin the flowering phase schedule upon the appearance of your first white pistils.
Once the plants are well established in the vegetative phase aim for 10-15% run off with each feeding, ensuring the pots do not sit in, rest in or absorb the run off water. This will help prevent salt buildups/potential nutrient lockouts throughout the grow.
For a hydroponic system change the nutrient mix weekly and if necessary to top up/refill the system mid week use hafl strength amounts at that point in time for example if using 4mL/L at the start of the week top up with 2mL/L mid week.
Reservoir temperatures should be kept at 65-68°F as temperatures of 70°F and above are a breeding ground for pythium/root rot/other pathogens."
Regards
"All of the products are compatible with both hydroponics or soil.
In regards to Grow, Micro, Bloom and the Sensi Grow/Bloom series Composition and performance wise, they are very similar.
The one advantage of the Sensi is the fact that there is an A+B pair for both grow and bloom cycles, allowing them to be geared towards the stage of growth they’re being used in.
With the 3 part nutrients, there are usually 2 scenarios a grower would want to use them over the Sensi Line.….
1. The grower likes a 3 part format (this is due to the popularity of 3 part nutrients dating back to the 1980’s, some growers just prefer this format)
2. The grower is using Autoflower genetics (This takes the guesswork of wondering when to switch to a bloom nutrient, since every set of autoflowers will “flip” to flower a bit differently)
The Connoisseur line of base nutrients are specifically formulated to take advantage of highly tuned growing environments. For example sealed rooms with split A/C and CO2 supplementation.
If growing in soil we would recommend using an inert soil without a built in fertilizer charge such as Sunshine Mix #4 or ProMix HP.
If using a soil with a built in fertilizer charge we would delay base nutrient application until the final week of the soil's built in fertilizer charge to avoid potentially overfeeding the plants, you can use the supplements as shown on the schedules in the meantime. Additionally you can use Sensi Cal/Mag Xtra at a rate of 2mL/L of water given to the plants in an effort to round out the nutrient profile in the soil. When you introduce the base nutrients you can discontinue the cal/mag supplementation.
You can refer to our feeding schedules found at https://www.advancednutrients.com/feeding/
Week one of the vegetative phase feeding schedule would begin when a seedling has it's second set of true leaves past the cotyledon or a clone/cutting has it's second set of new growth leaves.
Week one of the flowering phase when growing photoperiod indoor plants would begin the day you flip your lights. If growing autoflowers or outdoors you begin the flowering phase schedule upon the appearance of your first white pistils.
Once the plants are well established in the vegetative phase aim for 10-15% run off with each feeding, ensuring the pots do not sit in, rest in or absorb the run off water. This will help prevent salt buildups/potential nutrient lockouts throughout the grow.
For a hydroponic system change the nutrient mix weekly and if necessary to top up/refill the system mid week use hafl strength amounts at that point in time for example if using 4mL/L at the start of the week top up with 2mL/L mid week.
Reservoir temperatures should be kept at 65-68°F as temperatures of 70°F and above are a breeding ground for pythium/root rot/other pathogens."
Regards
Nothing wrong with Advanced. I grew some stellar crops with the Sensi line. What I grew tired of was paying for Big Mikes playboy model parties by purchasing his overpriced water...
Went to Jacks and never looked back.
Have a sweet day, negative.
Went to Jacks and never looked back.
Have a sweet day, negative.
Mr.NotSoFast
Member
I have used them all. I prefer Sensi/ connosseiur and my favourite PK for all times Big bud coco series. Different between sensi and connosseiur is marginal. I would advices to use sensi because it's much cheaper ( although I use connosseiur xD)
Don't go full doses!!! Often 50%(max75% whit big plants) has been enough depending on what else you feed your plants.
I myself use sensi/connosseiur coco series. It's work whit my tap watter(ph7.7) well and bring it down to ph6.
I have use other big brands like bio-nova, ghe and atami. I choose ADN from above.
BIG MINUS is too much bottels and price.
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Correct about the amount of bottles and price. Big Mike likes to separate everything into diff bottles to charge you more for his water. The amount you would spend funding 1 grow with his water would buy you enough Jacks to grow literally for years! I would never buy his overpriced water again. I have a entire thread on how much I saved by using Jacks over Advanced. It is unreal what they charge for their bottles.
Have a sweet day. Peace, negative.
Link to said thread.
https://www.icmag.com/threads/getting-off-the-bottle-how-i-diy-all-my-nutes.18124556/
Also they lie to you about the strength you need. They say to use way to much so they can sell you more. Even the poster above said that. Cant trust a company like that...Jacks gives real feeding numbers that actully work and dont burn the fuck outta your plants.
Have a sweet day. Peace, negative.
Link to said thread.
https://www.icmag.com/threads/getting-off-the-bottle-how-i-diy-all-my-nutes.18124556/
Also they lie to you about the strength you need. They say to use way to much so they can sell you more. Even the poster above said that. Cant trust a company like that...Jacks gives real feeding numbers that actully work and dont burn the fuck outta your plants.
Mr.NotSoFast
Member
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ADN sell also dry nutriens for cheaper price than redy to use.
Gotta read yours thread in weekend. I have been looking alternative for ADN. Like you say too much water and price XD.
ADN sell also dry nutriens for cheaper price than redy to use.
I was not aware they do dry. Jacks has been awesome for me! I have also been able to get great results with nothing other than Jacks. I am in week 5 of a run right now with nothing but Jacks 321 and Bontanicare's Revive for my good bacteria.
GG4 clone only. Week 5. RDWC.
Have a great day all! Peace, negative.
GG4 clone only. Week 5. RDWC.
Have a great day all! Peace, negative.
couchlockd
Active member
A sucker is born every minute by using advanced nutrients.
I usually when they first came out like when they first came out and they were featured on Weeds. Scentsy and connoisseur.
Then after that sucks so bad. Tried to pH perfect line with Scentsy and connoisseur.
The only products that were worth a damn from them they had dropped the phase specific Cal mag
I usually when they first came out like when they first came out and they were featured on Weeds. Scentsy and connoisseur.
Then after that sucks so bad. Tried to pH perfect line with Scentsy and connoisseur.
The only products that were worth a damn from them they had dropped the phase specific Cal mag
The quality of Advanced was great. I grew some absolutely stellar crops using nothing but their line many times. The problem was price and the amount of items.
Peace, negative.
I don't see any crops grown with Advanced Nutrients anymore. That says a lot about their stuff.
goingrey
Well-known member
The AN Sensi Coco pH Perfect bloom liter bottles lasted me like 2-3 years and grew a couple kilos of bud, the bottles of grow I bought at the same time I still have half left over.
It's a complete fertilizer. None of the other bottles from their, admittedly wide, range are needed.
When I didn't screw something else up the results were very good, the only thing I found strange was a honey-like aroma that a lot of strains seemed to get with it.
I'm trying some other fertilizers now, but just for fun, not because there was a problem with AN. Though I can see how it could get expensive with big reservoir hydro setups or drain to waste methods.
It's a complete fertilizer. None of the other bottles from their, admittedly wide, range are needed.
When I didn't screw something else up the results were very good, the only thing I found strange was a honey-like aroma that a lot of strains seemed to get with it.
I'm trying some other fertilizers now, but just for fun, not because there was a problem with AN. Though I can see how it could get expensive with big reservoir hydro setups or drain to waste methods.
Hiddenjems
Well-known member
My buddy and I ran the same cut for years. He ran ph perfect and I ran gh/Lucas. It’s my best cut and he quit growing it because it didn’t yield or have the potency I’m getting.
I’m sure there are other contributing issues.
I’m sure there are other contributing issues.
couchlockd
Active member
I should maybe clarify advanced nutrients and why they suck.
Yes you can show me a dozen crops grown successfully with advanced nutrients. That doesn't make them good. Cuz you can do the same with jacks powdered nutrient Lucas formula Dyna grow one part it'll all grow the same exact quality crop.
The problem with advanced nutrients boils down to a handful of things
1) if you saw the facility these were manufactured and you would not put that shit anywhere near your plans you probably wouldn't even take the bottle into your home. I'm dead serious.
2) it's very gimmicky and it's only goal is to upsell the customer and to make them think you couldn't grow plants without them.
3) this is the biggest thing here because all the other stuff the first two doesn't matter when it really boils down to it, but consistency from back to back is far from what a reputable nutrient manufacturer should be putting out.
4) the owners are assholes.
5) there was a fellow on here named "toohighMF" , he was a 3x rep for AN. He tried to steer and he did steer a lot of us away from falling down the rabbit hole of their crap, and I heard tales from him and a few others, about how big Mike in the ethnic fellow were sitting around talking about marketing septic tank enzyme with food coloring for $120 a bottle. I'm kind of laughing at the sucker nature of the customer.
I ran advanced nutrients for about 4 years.
Prior to oh perfect line, and transitioned to ph perfect line. Around 2008 ish.
I ran the Sensi 2 part with all the additives, then ran conny with all the additives, ran thier 3 part gmb.
In all honesty, I loved the Sensi 2 part with just a few additives (b52, sensical, bud blood, bud ignitor, kushy Kush/big bud)
But they didn't do anything different than straight Lucas with kool blooms, or botanicare or dynagrow with a shooting powder.
Just know what your using, uts nothing at all special and much better bang for your Buck can be had
Yes you can show me a dozen crops grown successfully with advanced nutrients. That doesn't make them good. Cuz you can do the same with jacks powdered nutrient Lucas formula Dyna grow one part it'll all grow the same exact quality crop.
The problem with advanced nutrients boils down to a handful of things
1) if you saw the facility these were manufactured and you would not put that shit anywhere near your plans you probably wouldn't even take the bottle into your home. I'm dead serious.
2) it's very gimmicky and it's only goal is to upsell the customer and to make them think you couldn't grow plants without them.
3) this is the biggest thing here because all the other stuff the first two doesn't matter when it really boils down to it, but consistency from back to back is far from what a reputable nutrient manufacturer should be putting out.
4) the owners are assholes.
5) there was a fellow on here named "toohighMF" , he was a 3x rep for AN. He tried to steer and he did steer a lot of us away from falling down the rabbit hole of their crap, and I heard tales from him and a few others, about how big Mike in the ethnic fellow were sitting around talking about marketing septic tank enzyme with food coloring for $120 a bottle. I'm kind of laughing at the sucker nature of the customer.
I ran advanced nutrients for about 4 years.
Prior to oh perfect line, and transitioned to ph perfect line. Around 2008 ish.
I ran the Sensi 2 part with all the additives, then ran conny with all the additives, ran thier 3 part gmb.
In all honesty, I loved the Sensi 2 part with just a few additives (b52, sensical, bud blood, bud ignitor, kushy Kush/big bud)
But they didn't do anything different than straight Lucas with kool blooms, or botanicare or dynagrow with a shooting powder.
Just know what your using, uts nothing at all special and much better bang for your Buck can be had
You are the first I heard to have run advanced nutrients for about 4 years. Most people I know who tried using them including myself threw them in the trash and got regular fertilizers after the first run. In my opinion, it's all a bunch of bullshit to get rich. High Times is a rip off too, they both worked together and made a lot of MONEY.
I remember seeing a big High Times story with Ken Estes, in his wheelchair sitting by his Grandaddy Purple plants saying throw your pH pen away because you never need it with Advanced. His plants looked amazing and the impression they were sending out was Advance did it. Lying mother f_ _kers! Bye Bye to both of them no more High Times or Advance. Both went BROKE
I remember seeing a big High Times story with Ken Estes, in his wheelchair sitting by his Grandaddy Purple plants saying throw your pH pen away because you never need it with Advanced. His plants looked amazing and the impression they were sending out was Advance did it. Lying mother f_ _kers! Bye Bye to both of them no more High Times or Advance. Both went BROKE
If it ain't built one truth and justice it won't withstand time.
MrKushman247
Well-known member
Have used their products for 20+ years. I'd say they work pretty darn good for me , can't say for anyone else but ,I got no complaints
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