Advanced Nutrients, Love it or Hate it, State your claim!

[Guest3498]

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My use of the AN line is pretty limited, but every AN product that I've used has outperformed similar products made by other, cheaper, companies. Someday I'd like to use their entire line... I am definitely the type of person who gets stuck in their ways, though.

Results speak for themselves, and I'll take em over what some random person on the internet says any day of the week...

 

[ShroomDr]

NONE of them will explain why they use the NPK raios that they do, and NONE of them will explain why cannabis needs their specific NPK ratio that they use, again. So, it brings everything to the most obvious..........

Blanket statements are not helpful. AN commissioned a study. (On top of that GH nor Botanicare claim to be for MJ, Advanced does.)

I just dont put full faith in their science. Their figures seem about right though.

http://www.growersunderground.com/PhosphorusMyth.pdf









As far as believing the others, when they have the same problems as AN... Well, ive never seen botanicare or GH claim 40% resin increases, and they dont have the audacity to name products 'Skunky skunk' or 'snake oil juice'.

Even AN doesnt follow their own scientific results. They dont run a low P level, and according to their charts, a PK booster would be absurd.


So in hindsight, your quote is accurate, AN did a study and still chose not to "xplain why they use the NPK raios that they do, and NONE of them will explain why cannabis needs their specific NPK ratio that they use". What is appealing about this company?

 

[Guest 18340]

ok, troll am I, whatever....... no not another user id..... a person is interested in the thread and you find this odd? that is as arbitrary as finding my interest in any topic odd

No, I don't find your interest odd. I already explained to you what was odd, take it or leave it.
Carry on...

 

[BIG JT]

I'm a noob myself but have had good results with advanced and house and garden. But comments like yours are what are making these boards turn to shit. You first come into a thread regarding peoples experiences with advanced. Its one thing to talk shit about their marketing but you go pass the line when you make comments about products you have never even used.

Can you please let us in on this secret nute regime that cost 1/10th of an advanced schedule and still gets the same results? Bro you are seriously full of shit with that statement.

Oh and I love you avatar, Its actually funny considering your the exact type of hater that is making these forum shitty.

Advanced it good shit and works well but you dont have to use their entire lineup to get good results.

I am currently running sensi ab, bud blood, overdrive, house and garden algen, multizen and roots excel and very happy with my results.

This thread was created to state your opinion on Advanced Nutrients, not your opinion of my opinion... AN is overpriced and inconsistent in analysis. Sure they have pretty pictures and are featured on Weeds and High Times, but silly growers like you are paying for those advertisements! They do however make a hell of a trim machine, although I doubt you'll ever need one

 

[krunchbubble]

but silly growers like you are paying for those advertisements! They do however make a hell of a trim machine, although I doubt you'll ever need one

silly growers like me do buy AN, damn how did i fall for that trap? oh! because I DONT TAKE OPINIONS AS ANSWERS and do my own research/side by side's with nutrients such as AN....

AN has some outstanding products and some that are shit, same with EVERY other nutrient company out there. just because you decided to jump on the anti AN bandwagon, you now feel that you have to talk shit about AN, have you ever tried it?.... do a side by side, dare ya!

 

[krunchbubble]

btw, i do have there trim reaper trimmer, absolutely love it, smacks most trimmers around that i have tried/used....

checked out there ballasts today.

5 years warrant and a 60 day unconditional money back guarantee!!!!! you dont want the ballast? dont like the color? wanna switch back to magnetic? take AN's ballast back within 6 months of buying for a FULL 100% REFUND!!!!!!

no company can even touch that, top notch in my book......

 

[Bud Bug]

btw, i do have there trim reaper trimmer, absolutely love it, smacks most trimmers around that i have tried/used....

Trim Reaper is not made my AN its distributed by them and so is the Samurai trimmer which is actually Tumbleweed which came out/sold through the stores years before AN picked it up as a distributor. http://www.tumbleweed.bz/

checked out there ballasts today.

5 years warrant and a 60 day unconditional money back guarantee!!!!! you dont want the ballast? dont like the color? wanna switch back to magnetic? take AN's ballast back within 6 months of buying for a FULL 100% REFUND!!!!!!

The ballasts are like every other pre wired ballasts out there. Crappy aluminum coil with cheap capacitors/ignitors with 5 year warranties. 1/5 of those ballasts usually have the capacitors fail within the first year. Exchange is not a problem with any of those unless the retailer is a shitty hole with no customer service.

As for the digital ballasts, well there you go https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=192420 I returned 4 of them yesterday.

no company can even touch that, top notch in my book......

BS every company now has years and years on their warranties. I think it was Maverick sun that had/has a 15 year warranty on their air cooled shades. Seriously WTF? Its simple they know most growers will only be around for a few years so there's very little chance for warranty returns.

 

[krunchbubble]

The ballasts are like every other pre wired ballasts out there. Crappy aluminum coil with cheap capacitors/ignitors with 5 year warranties. 1/5 of those ballasts usually have the capacitors fail within the first year. Exchange is not a problem with any of those unless the retailer is a shitty hole with no customer service.

As for the digital ballasts, well there you go https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=192420 I returned 4 of them yesterday.

BS every company now has years and years on their warranties. I think it was Maverick sun that had/has a 15 year warranty on their air cooled shades. Seriously WTF? Its simple they know most growers will only be around for a few years so there's very little chance for warranty returns.

i was talking about a 6 month return policy for your money back, not a warranty. not one company offers that try to return a lumatek and get you cash back after two grows.........

when you returned them, you got your money back right? thats what i thought......

 

[BIG JT]

btw, i do have there trim reaper trimmer, absolutely love it, smacks most trimmers around that i have tried/used....

checked out there ballasts today.

5 years warrant and a 60 day unconditional money back guarantee!!!!! you dont want the ballast? dont like the color? wanna switch back to magnetic? take AN's ballast back within 6 months of buying for a FULL 100% REFUND!!!!!!

no company can even touch that, top notch in my book......

At least we can agree on the trim reaper Krunch, respect

 

[Bud Bug]

i was talking about a 6 month return policy for your money back, not a warranty. not one company offers that try to return a lumatek and get you cash back after two grows.........

when you returned them, you got your money back right? thats what i thought......

With most of the shops locally I can return products that don't do as advertised or are shit and get my money back. Any store that doesn't do it is scamming the customer.

Most of the the returns have to do with the retailer/wholesaler. If the retailer gets credit for the product most will refund the money or give you store credit but I'm talking about the local stores here which most have been around for tens of year and have learnt how to keep customers happy.

Again 6 month money back is a sales pitch and all they are doing is playing the numbers game.

 

[Bud Bug]

LOL got to love their testimonials page. Seriously who the fuck writes this, I guess those read just like Big Mikes videos. Same speals

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hy...ss_ballasts/baddass_ballasts_testimonials.php

"Digitals sounded all great and stuff and I jumped on the bandwagon early. My first was a Galaxy which fried two bulbs and then I got a NextGen which fried itself and the company who makes it are total jerks. So you can be sure that if this Badd Ass wasn't one bad-ass ballast I'd have taken it back for a refund. Totally the newest and best digital ballast."
- Victor, from Athens, GA

"The only thing I am wondering is what took you people so long to get into the ballast business. How many years of crappy ballasts did we all go through, about 30, I think. I ought to use my old ballast as a boat anchor. This is the quietest, coolest and most quick-firing ballast I have ever used."
- Nigel, from Eugene, Oregon

"Congratulations for this technical achievement. I was seriously considering T-8's or growing outdoors until I heard about the Badd Ass. I know for a fact that it makes my bulbs brighter because I have a light meter and it's a fact. Also I am glad there's no RF at all, which makes me feel a lot more secure. Everyone using HID lighting should switch to this ballast right now."
- David, from Chico, California

Oh and here's a nice nugget from their site

VERSATILE! The only low frequency digital square wave ballast™ technology on the market designed to not only strike but operate both metal halide and high pressure sodium lamps stable. This technology effectively eliminates spectrum shifting and arc instability in turn producing truer colors.

LOL just make up some buzzword "digital square wave ballast" now throw it into you advert spiel and say its the only one that does something while the other digital ballast have been able to do that something for years, you know strike both MH and HPS bulbs.

One more edit. Their Bad Ass blowers
http://advancednutrients.com/hydrop...blower/baddass_blower_product_information.php

You know it would be one thing to come out and say we have new blowers coming out to add to our line of products but they make it sound like its some super product that AN improved on over the competitors products while the blower still shows the Ostberg sticker on it http://www.ostberg.com

 

[westside weasel]

ShroomDr, I have already read about the research AN released last year regarding the phosphorous uptake of cannabis plants during their life cycle. They are currently the only major nutrient distributor to release such data on cannabis, which they went on to explain why they have the NPK ratio as mostly N and K. Yet, they still haven't disclosed information regarding the exact chemical analysis of their own products, just like all the other nutrient companies on the market currently. So they haven't completely been honest with the customer.

If you do not trust their science, why? Do you believe/researched that their NPK ratio is incorrect? Not an attack - the point of this thread is to explain our knowledge about AN, thats all.....

I have seen AN fed cannabis plants that have produced a higher yield and also looked much better than non-fed AN cannabis plants. That is why I currently like AN and some of their products.

 

[krunchbubble]

With most of the shops locally I can return products that don't do as advertised or are shit and get my money back. Any store that doesn't do it is scamming the customer.

Most of the the returns have to do with the retailer/wholesaler. If the retailer gets credit for the product most will refund the money or give you store credit but I'm talking about the local stores here which most have been around for tens of year and have learnt how to keep customers happy.

Again 6 month money back is a sales pitch and all they are doing is playing the numbers game.

as a former manager of two grow stores and two of my friends own some of the biggest grow stores in the bay, exception being igrow. and as a personal friend of many company owners, i know for a fact that you CANNOT return any light, im not talking about any other product, for cash back at a hydro store, with the exception being AN's. even if its defective, your getting a replacement or store credit.....

LOL got to love their testimonials page. Seriously who the fuck writes this, I guess those read just like Big Mikes videos. Same speals

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hy...ss_ballasts/baddass_ballasts_testimonials.php

Oh and here's a nice nugget from their site



LOL just make up some buzzword "digital square wave ballast" now throw it into you advert spiel and say its the only one that does something while the other digital ballast have been able to do that something for years, you know strike both MH and HPS bulbs.

One more edit. Their Bad Ass blowers
http://advancednutrients.com/hydrop...blower/baddass_blower_product_information.php

You know it would be one thing to come out and say we have new blowers coming out to add to our line of products but they make it sound like its some super product that AN improved on over the competitors products while the blower still shows the Ostberg sticker on it http://www.ostberg.com

ya, those are stupid........

 

[Bud Bug]

They are currently the only major nutrient distributor to release such data on cannabis

No successful company would be directly associated with cannabis. This is what you won't see the others mention anything about weed. Shit GH in in Rona and Home Depot I don't think you could get a better distributor then those two and I'm pretty sure they have no desire to jeopardize those relation ships but saying anything about weed.

 

[westside weasel]

Mxrider4 - thank you for your input and support, I too used other nutrient products and observed a positive difference once I started using AN. I would like to let you know that voodoo juice can be substituted with roots excelerator if you wanted to, I have seen both work well but the excelerator was more productive than the voodoo juice after observing the comparing root systems.

It is a negative correlation to relate the number of posts to the amount of knowledge an individual has accrued, anyone who does so is revealing their own shortcomings in their knowledge about the scientific method.

 

[arcticsun]

Im an AN user, im happy with the results.

 

[krunchbubble]

No successful company would be directly associated with cannabis. This is what you won't see the others mention anything about weed. Shit GH in in Rona and Home Depot I don't think you could get a better distributor then those two and I'm pretty sure they have no desire to jeopardize those relation ships but saying anything about weed.

wondering if you have ever tried AN.......

cant knock till you tried, listening to the anti bandwagon does not mean its shit.......

try it, if you dont like it, get your money back, that simple.....

 

[krunchbubble]

another thing, i only use a couple of there products, im currently running GH.....

but i do side by sides for just about every nutrient company out, AN is on top of the list....

 

[westside weasel]

Bud Bug - so AN is successful, and they are associated with cannabis...., why would Home Depot be brought up in this conversation, why is it relevant? To build a grow room? We are discussing nutrients.... and if you could elaborate on your reasoning of why a company would not be successful if they were associated with cannabis, rather than just making an arbitrary statement that the association would be 'bad', that would be great.....

 

[westside weasel]

Krunchbubble - dude, right on with your input and I also hope that prop 19 does not pass.....we will soon find out....