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Mr GreenJeans

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Ms G - thanks so much, so glad you like bonsai! :smile: More pictures coming up! :wave:

bundesliga - that is a fab seed site! :yes: Thanks for posting it!

clearcutter - you'll have a lot of fun guaranteed. Never started maples from seed as an adult - as a kid the winter did the trick and seedlings would start in the spring. The japanese maples I get are grafted onto a strong root stock, by themselves they have wimpy roots and do not clone.

packn :wave:
Thanks my friend, more pictures coming up.

First a couple of trees I've been growing for big trunks. First is a redwood that was started from a burl sometime in the mid 80s, gifted to me in 92. In a 1/2 oak barrel, I think I'll cut it in 2 years and start getting it ready for life in a small pot.


The trunk is nicely tapered and the spots where I removed lower branches are filling in nicely.

Next is a dwarf pomegranate my wife planted 6 years ago. Turns out she's not crazy about the tree, so last year I gave it a good prune and soil prep, and next spring I'm going to air layer a bunch of upper branches. Once they have taken and are in pots, I will cut the trunk 2 feet above the ground and start developing it. I like the roots on this one, looks like a sphinx or dog to me


The trunk on this one is about 1/3 the thickness of the redwood.

I also like difficult plants. I've been growing this star jasmine for many years and it has never taken off. My 0420 grow taught me my water is very alkaline, and I think that is why this plant has been slow. I flushed her with a bunch of pH 5.5 water, then fed her seaweed, she seemed to like it but is still a sad little plant. Hope I can put a smile on her face this year.


And a few of my others - glad you asked packn!

A myrtle. This is the 4rth air layer I have taken off a tree in my friends back yard. It was in a 5 gal pot for 4 years, then transplanted to this ceramic pot last year.


Spring 2004 I had a paper white birch that got ill and died back severely. I cut the trunk at root level and most of the trunk still looked live. I cut the rootball in half, bare rooted, and put one of them in a plastic 5 gallon pot. It developed a strong shoot, pruned back anything else and let her rip. It's been growing gangbusters and base of the trunk is already turning white. Will probably keep this one in the big pot for another year of so.


Here's a wisteria that I picked up very cheap at a bonsai show a couple of years ago. They're a bit finicky - don't like too much or too little water, don't like much ferts, like coarse but not very rich soil.


Last one for tonight is a pair - one the front left a Micro Fuschia - for size comparison I have an 8 oz blue cup in the picture - the flowers are very very tiny. The back left is a Satsuki Azalea, the second picture is the same plant spring 2004, with the same Micro Fuschia on the right - the Fuschia really filled in nicely this year!


Thanks for visiting my little garden! :wave:
 

Mr GreenJeans

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gmt - yup, pretty ironic huh?

The reason is leaf size. Look at the micro fuschia - with it's micro mini leaves and flowers, everything looks in proportion with a smaller trunk. Now let's consider a birch. The leaves on my birches are inches long. Look a bit out of place with a 1/4 - 1/2" diameter trunk. Birches also take a long time to turn white if grown in bonsai pots ( I've been waiting 9-10 years on some I have ). So I'm now growing 'em big to widen and whiten the trunk first.

Same with the redwood. The best redwood bonsai I've seen have been 2-4' tall with sparse branching, and very thick trunks. So I'm going for broke on the trunk - looking to duplicate the look of a specimen I saw at a show a couple of years ago.

Hi growdoc - do you have anything particular in mind?

For folks interested in indoor bonsai, just checked Amazon and Indoor Bonsai by Paul Lesniewicz ( ISBN: 0713717009 ) is still in print. This is a very good book and lists many many plants suitable for indoor growing, pictures, optimal conditions, initial training recommendations.
 

packn2puff

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:listen2: That Micro Fuschia looks sweet...very nice...I like the Satsuki Azalea as well and the Myrtle and the........ :woohoo:
 

Mr GreenJeans

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Thanks packn! :friends: This is my third micro fuschia, 2 others died - they are very sensitive to conditions. Indoors they're a little easier to keep happy - you should try one!!! :yoinks:
 

packn2puff

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I'm going to move from here soon...I just don't know how soon...The only window I have is sometime between August and April...maybe get one going after I move. :wave:
 

Mr GreenJeans

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Cedar Group Planting Trim

Cedar Group Planting Trim

Been waiting for this. Hard to just talk about trimming techniques without examples. I've had this Cedar Group Planting for some time, put it in this pot for final training 2 years ago. That was the last time I trimmed it, and it looks more like a bush than a group of trees.


I try to follow very simple rules for trimming, and deviate from the rules when I need a branch to go somewhere to fill in a gap in growth. First I remove any branches that grow straight up or straight down. Then wherever I find a triple fork ( \|/ ), I remove the middle branch ( \ / ). I did this branch first ( left forward center branch ).


Here's the next branch pre and post trim


Took about an hour of leisurely trimming before I was done. Before and after shots.


I'm trying to get the right most tree to be a little taller than the other 2 so left a bit more needle mass on the right tree.

So what do you think - do they look more like wild specimens in a forest before or after the trim?
 

billy blim

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Nice Bonsai

Nice Bonsai

Hi Mr Greenjeans
You have some very nice Bonsai trees there, don't you find that the herb gives you more patience when you do any work on them.
I have been growing bonsai for 20ish years. Got into growing herb when i got arthritis. Some nice Blue Mystic nearly ready, i will post some pics of the herb and some Bonsai if you are interested.
Here's some pics from a crop i grew last year.
:joint:


 

Mr GreenJeans

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Hiya billy! :wave: Thanks for stoppin by my midget garden!

Nice 420 crop, Blue Mystic - sure post away - you must have been in bud heaven for quite a while!

You've been growin bonsai a long time - definitely interested in seeing some pics of your midgets, and definitely pipe up with any techniques you've found that work well for you.

Patience - hasn't been a problem with the bonsai, been growing them for about 20 years too, find taking care of them very relaxing. I'm more from the Chinese minimalist cut and grow school than the more intensive Japanese techniques, although I do occasionally wire a branch here and there.

But my 420 girls are another story. :biglaugh: I don't expect anything from year to year with my bonsai, but I do expect a harvest from my 420, and I can get a bit impatient - my girls are teaching me patience, and they're doin a good job of it. :bat:
 

sm0kateer4204

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a few month's back i got really intrested in growing bonsai and did lots of reading just never got around to messing with the tree's. if anyone is looking to try bonsai growing i suggest you start studying up like you did when you wanted to learn to grow weed. starting bonsai's from seeds is just crazy if your looking to get a completely finished tree in under 10 years i suggest you go to a plant nursery and look for yard tree's for your bonsai material. if you get a nice selection and play your cards right you might end up with a tree ready for a bonsai pot and training in a few years. heres a wonderful read i kept in my favorite's http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/nurserys.htm and im sure you pot grower's know you cant get nothing done with out research. another excellent website is www.bonsaitalk.com its a great bonsai forum lots of good info to find there.
 

Mr GreenJeans

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sm0kateer - thanks for stoppin by! Very well put and very true. Thanks for those links - hadn't seen them before - good stuff! Another thing to try that can be a lot of fun is learning to air layer trunks to get roots. I'll try to find a how-to to post on this. This plant was an air layer of a branch that was being trimmed from an old myrtle tree in the area.


The trunk was 3-4" in diameter when I cut it from the tree, put it in a 5 gal pot until the head got big and then put it in the current pot. The primary branches are a little thick, but after a prune the developing branches hide it pretty well.

Nurseries are a great place to look for material! It can be surprising how many plants there are with small leaves that would make interesting bonsai.

Be sure to post some pics of what you get, I'm always interested in seeing bonsai!
:wave:
 

packn2puff

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Mister Miyagi say, "Very nice bonsai Danielson."
Is there bonzai under brush available, like bushes?..so you could have a whole scaled down landscape or would transplanting be too difficult? :wave:
 

Mr GreenJeans

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Hiya packn!
I haven't thought of it, but you could easily do a rock or pot planting - it would have to be a very large pot - along those lines. There are micro boxwoods - you could use that for hedging, maybe one or 2 small micro fuschia for small trees or bushes, and then put a somewhat larger small leaved japanese maple or maybe a cedar. Anything you find in your neighborhood that has very small leaves could also be collected and used.

Transplanting a group planting is not a problem as long as you're mostly satisfied with the size of the plants you put in. Then when you need to transplant, you lift the whole thing out, just trim an inch or so around all sides, trim an inch of the bottom, and repot with new soil.

Great idea, and very do-able! :yes:
 

Sleepy

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Man, your plants are really wonderful!

the pink on the fuschia is amazing :yoinks:

very nice!
 

bartender187

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GreenJeans- You are the BIGGEST G. This thread should be stickied, and turned into a classic. Wait... we should make a new fourum just for this thread. :D You've inspired me, im goin to try it out. Looks like a hobby i would enjoy. Do you have any recomendations of a good begginner tree?

thanks,
 

Mr GreenJeans

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Hi sleepy - thanks man! It's one of my favorites!

Hi bartender - :redface: Thanks - you've got me tongue tied!!! Glad you like the thread.

Do you want to grow indoor or outdoor? That will determine the best kind of plant. If you want to grow indoors, you should get a subtropical plant, if you want to grow outdoors you should get a temperate plant - like a cedar, maple, boxwood. You can also look around your area to see what's around - if you find something with fairly small leaves it's a good candidate either for rooting a cutting or if there is a trimmable branch coming up from the soil you can often take some roots with it and save some time.

For easy purchase availability my guess is you'd be able to find a micro boxwood and small japanese maples pretty easily.

Before I go to "bonsai" stores I cruise a few nurseries. It's surprising the material that can be found for a good price.

Any other questions, feel free to ask!
 

sm0kateer4204

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if you want leaves to get smaller on tree's that go dormantmaple's for example you cut the leaves in half. eventually all the leave's will fall of when fall approaches and when they grow back they'll be signifigantly smaller than last years leave's ubt if you have an evergreen like pine's for example you just keep their needle's trimmed to your desired length and here's a link for a how to on air layering. http://forum.bonsaitalk.com/showthread.php?t=403&highlight=air+layering
 

GMT

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I thought I'd get some practice in and took a branch to see if I could get it to root. I think it's already dead. This isn't as easy as 420.
 
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