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unclefishstick

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lol,we all have our crosses to bear...not that i run in them or do much gardening but i have just about blown out my first pair of toe shoes or whatever in the heck they are called...they do help to stretch out and strengthen the feet,since i always have stiff soled cycling shoes on my feet dont get as much of a workout...

if i get a nice male from the sssdh then for sure the glue cut will get hit with that,and the strawd as well,plus hopefully i get a good strawd male so i can hit the glue with that...
 

wildgrow

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I really do appreciate the journey....and if nothing else..that may be all it was....a trip

Its all about the journey - no matter the mode of locomotion - I know you know that.

After days of scrambling over peaks and finally descending to my pick up point - all I want to do is cross that road, keep going.

If I beat my ride, I would cross - work 100 yds into the woods - enough to blend the woosh of cars with the swoosh of trees. Always have to force myself to turn around and go back to the road.

Its never the destination - adventure in every step, discovery around every corner.
 

Jericho Mile

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Ball Busting

Ball Busting

So what did I say?....and did I lie? No...this thread is documented as close to how it is...as I can get..without...well you know...breaking rules

I said that I was using a total of 6 males (3 HH and 3 MM) for the building of Hell Mox. The pollinations to this point (5 total) have used pollen from just 4. But now...I'm collecting pollen from the last 2 males.



* I did it this way (staggering) because of space...and because I like to keep pollens fresh. So just in case the pollens (kept vac sealed in a tin...in the fridge) from the original 4 males were to get lost..or spoil...that I'd still have the remaining 2 male's pollens.

As it is...and as it should be...I didn't lose or spoil any pollens..so now I'll just add the remaining pollens...and there you go:

I'll now be pollinating with 6 males instead of just 4. That's how I roll...you see..there really is method to the madness. I'm not always just spinning off into space. Logistics man.

** Running here in a bit. Going to hit it hard for a couple hrs...then come back home...and spend the rest of the day doing transplants (resupplied with coco yesterday) and cleaning. Field day. This week is just starting to ramp up...I have a lot going on...so trying to keep up on my gardening.

run run run run run
 

budman678

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You always seem to be doing fun shit. D you have a job? A mortgage? How can I have your life ;-)
 

Madjag

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From the Cloisters Museum in north Manhattan.....some old school imagery: peace sign?

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Jericho Mile

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Digesting the Muesli

Digesting the Muesli

...with a spot of tea. That and a couple pieces of toast..will be the run fuel. Got to have good digestion before going out...been up since predawn..bit sleepy...waiting for this stuff to settle then free to roam

For shits and grins..harvested a lower flower off the 55 day old Mox and a lower flower off the 55 day old Hound (the mothers I showed yesterday).....been flushing what?...just over a week. Not ripe by any means...but ripe enough to sample



^ Can you tell the difference? The Mox is the lower bud...the Hound the upper bud. Quite stinky.



^ Mox bud. Lighter colors...kind of a aqua



^ Hound bud. More a green

Just to flip out for a second...in relation to common genetic denominators between Mox Mox and Hell Hound

Both have Reservoir's Sour Diesel as a common.

Casey Jones = Oriental Express (trainwreck X thai) X ECSD V3 (which was the last step to the IBL)

Chem DD = Chem D clone X Sour Diesel IBL


There are double doses of Chem DD in Mox Mox...and there are double doses of Casey Jones in Odessa. Odessa is one of the parents to Hell Hound. Then...depending on your belief system...

....the Chem lines may have been involved..somehow...in some of the OG Kush linage. Debatable until science tells all...but I'm throwing it out there anyway...as it's possible. Timelines and all...maybe

SFV OG Kush and Ghost OG Kush were used to make OG Jam...which of course...is the other parent of Hell Hound.

What does all this matter? It really doesn't...until you start working with the 2 lines and mash them together...as I'm doing in the Hell Mox project. Then you start looking for the seams...in the genetics..where they are best stitched together. I want smooth transitions...effortless glides.

I'm not simply mashing it all up...and praying for it all to work. I'm a little past doing that. There are charts I'm using to navigate these waters. Time Space Money...it can't be a fuck all...not if you're serious about your goals

EDIT:
November 13 (morning)

I hadn't vaporized anything in 2 days. Shocking I know. 1st time I'd gone 2 days in..probably...several years. Last week I skipped a day as well. I have been cutting back on my intake of cannabis. I don't know exactly why...but I'm listening to my body. I'm being honest to myself. Found I was starting to stone out...rather than elevate...which is not what I'm looking to do. I'm into elevation.

anyways...

this morning I took a piece off that Mox Mox early harvest flower..the one I cut off yesterday...having had sat in a paper bag..in the 80 degree veg room all day and night. These type of flowers tend to dry fast..and this being a lower wisp sort..by no means dry..moist..yet in a vaporizer...doable

what I think?

that undertone flavor. It's near impossible to describe..it's like a fume from dentist's gas mask..that stuff they used to gas me with..when I was a young kid..in the 70's. It's artificial..not natural..but then again..it's coming from a plant...it's come from a gas..ether nitrous petroleum

this undertone flavor I swear...after vaporizing several different variations..and outcrosses...I'm really getting convinced that the OG Kush and Chem lines are closely related. The undertone is the same...some stronger than others...the overtop flavors different...but the undertone still the same. I get tired of it actually....but then

I come back...and I'm like holy shit..that flavor is crazy.

Maybe I'm way off...I mean...I don't keep a stable of Chem or OG...you know how I am..all my stuff is outcrosses. Yet these outcrosses...are different..from different angles...from different OG/Chem lines..different parents ect....and still...I find that common undertone. For sure...have sampled more than a few OG Kush in my time...

I'm saying...all these big breeders..with all their knowledge...and I feel that one of the most important lines discovered came from "unknown" bag seed. That's crazy...because I don't believe in luck...that bag seed came from someone's breeding work...whatever.. I do have the hunch that Chem was used to make the OG...leave it at that.
 

Jericho Mile

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Flo Dominant Mox Mox: Day 57

Flo Dominant Mox Mox: Day 57



^ So far I have not yet...found another Flo controlled Mox Mox IX1 expression in this run. Was mildly surprised to have found this one..but I suppose I shouldn't have been. 2nd generation..though blended more to the Chem DD (having used Chem DD males on Flo to make TFlux...then the "Deliah" Chem DD mother pollinated by TFlux males to make Mox Mox)

....I figured the Flo would have not likely shown up until the 3rd generation. Guess stuff can recombo whenever..in whatever generation..but I was thinking more about percentages. It may be a low percentage...that I find another one in this population..in this run

Nice enough plant expression though....in many ways..a textbook kind of Flo. Finish time is bit longer than a good Flo..as I figure a textbook Flo to finish late 50's (my Flo mom I considered done on day 57 like clockwork)....but really...this one is like one of those green Flo expressions...the ones that get the fat indica style leaves

I keep looking for those fat leaves in my other Mox(s)....but from seed..they (Flo fat leaf expressions) tend to show this trait in flower...not obvious to me in veg. I found many of those back in TFlux 1st and 2nd generations. I'll use it as a tell...as I'm still a little bummed

...that I didn't pollinate this example. I can console myself though...because for starters...I can easily find Flo of this fashion again in my collection..TFlux is full of them. Certainly not the end of the world. I think my main goal for using Original Flo with the Chem DD was to use Thai influenced genetics on the DD in hopes of spinning it into unlocking unknown sativa expression....that maybe...could be routed out into another direction. By crossing my Chem DD mom to TFlux...I intended to demonstrate which line I was more focused on...as the Chem DD was always what I was interested in unlocking.

Original Flo I've attempted to unlock many other times...in many other ways...but have found it not worth the effort. Nothing much seemed to change it into something else. Granted...I didn't take many of those outcrosses beyond the 2nd generation...but the Blue lines being so inbred..it's beyond my desire or means to go that direction. I threw that towel in...a long time ago. Though I've bred many of them now...Blue lines are not where I am exactly. Yet christ...they obviously pop up regular in my garden...at least in this last year. I'm moving off them though...I swear. It's the ornamental traits in all honesty..that attract me to them..the resin profiles not so much

* at harvest time...I'll be able to pull this one out whole..get some better pix hopefully. Not that big of a girl...very modest yielder. She can also stand up on her own...unlike any of the other Mox Mox which need to be hung/supported
 

Jericho Mile

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I try not to wonder nor worry...

I try not to wonder nor worry...

..if I make sense or if I really know what the fuck I'm talking about. A goddamned nutter too long on the spaceship..too much in the undertow of electronically growing plants...electronically talking them out..electronically documenting an electronic experience...

..only

the plants and me are real in this environment. But you can not possibly know that. And I can forget that..so I run under the sun

This stuff is almost dry..by the end of today..it will be ready for curing



^ Red Krox. We know Original Flo and Grape Krush are in there...covering imo...the spectrum of the Blues (if you follow the Blue Chart: Floral and Berry)

We know Mr. A's RKM work is in there..and we know my Chem DD work is also in there...again in hopes...of creating different routes into expression

Light as a feather..these flowers are. I don't know how much more sativa (generalization) flowers can be. Stringy bracts covered in small headed resin glands

I'll tell you what. I have to make a few phones calls..then I'm free for a few hrs. I'll vaporize some of this stuff...go run a while..during those few hrs...let you know about the flavor and head..without cure..of course
 

Mr. Alkaline

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Real:

If u can see the rkm, then u know I am real too for the most part.
Or at least that there were real thoughts under the same sun which had lead up to when u met with the rkm. Lol
I think oil contains thoughts cause of the sun. Why do ppl microwave wet bud? Ha ha
Take care.....
 

Mr. Alkaline

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You inspire people JM.

Don't ever forget this force of inspiration you gift freely to us.

Your writing about your life wakes up dark areas inside sluggish minds.

Your special. I hope u never forget the permanence of your posts and past posts u have put into people's hearts!

If this site ever disappears always know that u gave us your love.

Have faith that your time and past times are never in vain.
Thank you. Your a real friend!!!!!!! I mean it.
 

Mr. Alkaline

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Okay, ....
If u didn't like the high, I'm cool with whatever feedback u have.
If u are still running, I apologize :)
Oh, hey, do u keep tabs on your omega 3 and 6 intakes, just curious...thx
 

Jericho Mile

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running, pissy chilly weather, old friends, delays, memorial...

running, pissy chilly weather, old friends, delays, memorial...

...and public speaking. Agendas for the few days...that take many..to arrange. Participating in group energy...in public domain

* Yeah..the other day..I vaped 3 bowls of Red Krox..through my Solo..and can say some...about flavor and buzz..straight up no cure

in truth

I've been vaporizing it again...this morning. It's just like the samples I took off it early (the early harvest I posted a way back). Stretched to the 73 day mark (note that this plant would have probably stretched to 100..they never seem to want to die..as I've previously mentioned)...

it didn't change the high..nor enhance the flavor of the resin. It's mellow all way round. The high is light..doesn't ever mule kick your head..lasts a long time..at the same mellow elevation. Chain smoking multiple bowls (3 when I ran...2 this morning) doesn't do anything to it. A very chill..well being high. No rocket ship to outter space..not a confusing fuck you up high

Flavor...goddamn...not on mark. It's a little fruity and a lot bland. I'll let it cure...but I've been here before..with very similar plants. It won't happen..it is as good as it will ever be. I'd very much like to be wrong...but I'm not.

Flavor matters. Let's not fool ourselves....we can't help it...we shouldn't help it...not if we are hunting trophy expression.

Experimental Bondage:

Showed you in one of these posts...how I was tying up vegging plants. Now...some of the experiment has found itself in the stretch of flower



^ A Mox Mox IX1 day 14...I'm keeping her drawn in as she hits stretch...but my goal is to keep her tied in..the entire way. I want to keep bending her tops into the light footprint..all the while keeping her branches sucked into the middle. In another week..I'll defoliate her much more. With wires from all over...she will be kept out of the bulbs. I'll be pollinating this girl...so you must remember...I need to keep her as tight as possible..to make moving her easier. It's advisable to try new things? sure



~~~~~~~~~````Bowl #3 of the morning Red Krox testing: with pressed black coffee. Maybe the coffee lends a sense of chocolate..or maybe I'm looking for it..as I've had that undertone in other BBS-like expressions. If it was more overpowering..it might be something. high and mellow

So now that plant above..she is starting to block out a squat expression of Hell Hound IX1...and I'm kind of letting her and another MM on the squat's other flank...do so



^ Never showed her before. Flushing on Day 54...elevated up on a milk crate. These squat expressions found in Hell Hound come from the squat expression found in Odessa. And again (as I talked about on the last one I had..back a couple/few pages) they are the most stable...easy to grow..out of the Hell Hound expressions. I didn't pollinate this girl. Really good vapor comes from these..but they are slow slow slow growers...and never get much past 3' tall. Get too leafy as well...which for some reason..I always blame on the C99BX in Odessa. Don't know why...but that's how I see it...the leafiness is blamed on cindy

A look at different Mox Mox IX1 and Hell Hound IX1 mothers



^ HH left MM right day 39......Killer



MM left HH right day 59....Killer

* Mox Mox IX1 and Hell Hound IX1 = LOVE TO GROW

I don't prefer one to the other. I see where I'm going in Hell Mox..that's one thing...I see the better qualities of both lines..and where they'll go together...those seams I was talking about. These plants and me..it is a love affair. They are very demanding..very rewarding..taking and giving...perhaps reflections of the girls and women I have known. It becomes a personal thing. That sounds crazy...but it's not at all. Very sane and absolute way of viewing creation. Think about what we are doing..when we spread pollen. And of how cherished the female is in our gardens...in our bowls
 

Jericho Mile

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Okay, ....
If u didn't like the high, I'm cool with whatever feedback u have.
If u are still running, I apologize :)
Oh, hey, do u keep tabs on your omega 3 and 6 intakes, just curious...thx

I was posting while you were I guess. Didn't see your recent posts until after I posted my last. No..maybe not...don't know why the last few posts didn't show before..anyway

I enjoy the high. It is real easy going. People would say it's not potent...but you now how the general population of tokers are...they like one hit quit...to get them stoned. Understandable..in the commercial sense..but this is not for that..so for me..it's a mellow working high. It's not acid or anything..lol.. but it's a warm fuzzy high...social pot

I'm not keeping tabs on my omega 3 or 6...but try to eat foods with them. I also eat a little bit of dirt with my fresh pick veggies...not everyday but on some days. I'll pick a carrot and not wash it well...something like that...think eating a bit of dirt is a good thing.

How should I keep track of omegas? Never thought of that.

* Now my wife brought home a bathroom scale (after she was right about my weight)....so I check sometimes. The other day I was down to 135 (roughly on this scale) before a run...and 133 after...wanted to see the difference in water weight...in an 1.5 hr run..in mid 70 degree temps. Knowing the differences in water weight I find interesting..as to how much I'm flushing water through my system...in a certain measurement of time...how much my body must be working itself out...how conditioned I am in my environment etc etc.....

...135 is getting too low...even though my runs are not showing this...but damn...I can't stay down that low. I'm trying to take in more calories..but it's not so easy. I burn so many...and I just don't have the appetite to keep cramming down food.

anyway...maybe I shouldn't get too involved in scales and weight...as it does become subjective matter..no matter how objective I try to be. This country is full of big people...that's one thing I see. When you start experimenting with this diet and trail discipline..things look a lot different. Trying to explain it to others....I see..where I fail...where people find it unreasonable.

I do not know..have no plan...where this lifestyle is taking me. I committed to what the trails dish out....some time ago..and indeed...it's sucking me in. You can't do this...and still hang on..have to let go and follow. That's the deal on the dotted line
 

unclefishstick

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ha! you should try pulling a trailer sometime,talk about burning calories! just got back from a 2 night camping trip,took a 50 mile ride on the second day with two 20 mile pulls with the trailer fully loaded plus a set of panniers on the front on either end of the trip...when i got home yesterday i was like a caloric black hole...its hard to keep up on the calories when you're really burning them....


got some nice looking seed plants going,the mental floss and strawberry diesel have really done well,just about ready to show sex,should end up with nice males and females to play with...gonna put a crimp in the camping possibly since i will run them in smaller pots...probably still big for most people since they will go in a 5 or 7 gallon smarty depending on how many girls there are,but small compared to a 45 gallon for sure...
 

Jericho Mile

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ha! you should try pulling a trailer sometime,talk about burning calories! just got back from a 2 night camping trip,took a 50 mile ride on the second day with two 20 mile pulls with the trailer fully loaded plus a set of panniers on the front on either end of the trip...when i got home yesterday i was like a caloric black hole...its hard to keep up on the calories when you're really burning them....


got some nice looking seed plants going,the mental floss and strawberry diesel have really done well,just about ready to show sex,should end up with nice males and females to play with...gonna put a crimp in the camping possibly since i will run them in smaller pots...probably still big for most people since they will go in a 5 or 7 gallon smarty depending on how many girls there are,but small compared to a 45 gallon for sure...

That's right...you work in those big pots. I think that's a great idea..the way to go. I can't do it..but if I could..I would. Love the way you grow your plants.

Well...I just finished off a big bowl of black beans, pinto beans, avocado, and a yam. That's what going to fuel me on this afternoon's run. Temps are below 50 degrees...cloudy, windy, wet, and cold. Great conditions for power running.

I've been concentrating my running on fuel break lines/animal trails..which are way steeper, way less refined/defined passages, and generally....way way way more dangerous to run than forrest service trails. Smart to wear leather gloves...and calve sleeves..as many times I've got to crash brush...and it's the quickest way for some "trail" maintenance (break offending branches with my hands..to keep a line open)......different style of running..get torn up pretty good..bleeding gouges/scratches..pain has a way of making you alert. Got to run with high knees...or face serious trips and fuck ups into rock..yucca..or sharp brush cut/punji sticks...things that stick bash stab...shit hurts

When I'm back on regular trail...I am most often..running for speed. Coming from running an animal trail or fuel break..back onto trail..is like hitting a racetrack.

That things you do unc...are similar...what I do..same understanding of fuel burning.
 

unclefishstick

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yeah its funny to think i burned something like 3-4000 extra calories during this trip not to mention spending 2 nights out so whatever caloric burden that added and yet you could( well not you) drive down to macdonalds and get a big mac super sized meal and that would be about the same number of calories...
yeah,the big difference is im on the dark side,i was chomping down on the salami and cheese crakers and such in camp,most of the cooked food was vegetarian simply because those are the best options for just add boiling water camp foods....and i certainly chug down my share of gatoraide type stuff...i try and stick to the emergen-c packets for electrolytes but sometimes i need that sugar to keep the pedals turning over....
 

Jericho Mile

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Im macking down Museli soaked in coconut milk

Im macking down Museli soaked in coconut milk

Ran earlier..started around 1 then went for 1:41...power running mostly trail....with the exception of one off trail drainage bottom (which brought me up onto a 2 track 4wd road)..

power running...I define as: running at a mostly open mouth pace..where breathing is labored and at times...panting. Using the terrain at every opportunity...bounding..bouncing..sliding..digging in..basically running hard...going out of my way to make it more difficult.

Hitting uphills and downhills with aggression...attacking them. Got to keep in good form..squaring off shoulders and hips into the desired direction..keeping coiled...never fully uncoiled. Running low then high..but always trying to keep knees up...legs under me.

It's extremely fun.

must be noted that at this weight..140 and under...I'm far more flexible...and I'm faster. I'm sure I have torn cartilage in my left knee (for many years)...that bothers me..or can cave..if I hit it wrong..but everything feels better at these lighter weights. That knee...and my hips are far less sore or far more flexible..everything just moves way better than when I was 165 pounds. I felt like a kid today...really free feeling. I ran...strong...dominant..with attitude...powering



^ That's about 5 bowls in my vaporizer. Red Krox nugget...vaporized 3 bowls prior to my run. Nice and mellow...didn't make me slow down any...transitioned over to run mode like a switch gets flipped. It's not fair testing herb while running as

herb motivates me to run...but doesn't aid my run. I used to think that it might...but now I believe running is running..once the breathing switches up...once the endorphins flow..doesn't matter if your high on cannabis or not. Running is a drug...a very addictive drug. Trail running mountains even more so. I fully concede to this addiction.

* I put the Red Krox off to cure. I'll leave it alone for a while..then come back and see what the cure does. I find it hard to believe that I'm not getting more flavor with everything that's mashed in there..but then again..I've been here more than once already. Sometimes it just doesn't happen. I really like expressions that wash the mouth in crazy flavors...not saying it's always the priority...but I do tend to grow plants..from beans.. from flavored expressions. The way cannabis can express..or imitate flavors/aromas from other things is mind blowing. I don't know what else does that..other than humans making imitation flavor in labs.

Heads are so much more subjective....from one person to another...moods etc.. I always take the high descriptions...with a grain of salt. I know when something is more potent than something else...but the rest is really hard to honestly express. So much goes into high influence
 

Jericho Mile

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cut cutting...felled

cut cutting...felled

2 come out 2 go in...the simplicity of rotation. Perpetual motions



^ Harvested the Flo leaning Mox Mox IX1 this morning...day 62. Flush commenced on day 47...yet she showed little fade..with the exception of some of her bottom leaves.

Not an overpowering aroma..but very lovely resin coverage. Low yielder. Ornamental expression. I've cultivated many of these expressions over the years. Doesn't matter what Flo has been bred to or what generation the cross is in...eventually I come across them. I'm used to them



^ In a previous post I made..discussing this plant...I told you dudes that one of the indicators I'm looking for...to pick out any Flo leaning Mox Mox was the fat deep green leaves. These leaves..I said..only show up when the plant is put into flower (from seed that is...my experience with them as clones..is that they show through veg). Pretty obvious tell...that the expression will have Flo influence.

* When I look at the flower structure...I'm always thinking how nice it is...how I love the way they form up. The thing is...the plants never put out big flowers...and they are always very lazy plants. There is no explosion in them...

By now...you know I like blasters....very aggressive expressions so..

one of my goals in working with Original Flo in outcrosses...was to supercharge it into more vigorous explosive expressions....but hold onto the ornamental value. I have failed at every turn...in every outcross...failed to make it so. Flo is so inbred...it's like an endless wall

** Not pollinated for the Hell Mox build
 
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