A World On A String

[THE PABLOS]

Grape Krush male influences

Grape Krush male influences

Now...where are we?. We are here. Here..in this case..is Prune Juice IX1 (Querkle X Grape Krush)

Break: Sorry I can't stop tripping on how much those Grape Krush males have gotten around. Fuck me..they've made some killer expressions...in many directions..blows my mind..how far those $150 seeds have taken me down some holes

I am so critical of the Blue lines...but man..I'm growing them all the time...well..in my self tailored hybrids. When I step back..I'm like what the fuck?...how did this happen

But you know..I'm open..going with it

Pollinated these girls this morning. The short one is my #1 selection..but truthfully...every plant in the run is marvelous...represent either of the 2 "expressions" I'm seeing at this time. It's quite possible the majority of the girls will be partially pollinated like these

At 25 days...how they looked before having some lower branches pollinated...and before having their 1st flower pruning



After pollination and pruning



About as Indica as I go....but I love this cross. It hooks up well...and is on my long term work list

* Can't help it...I'm forever searching for exotic expressions that I see only in my mind. It's an incredible thing...pollinating plants

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

Yeah, I think I'd like to see someone oneday grow out a thousand grape krush seeds..
I've had grape smoke exhales on an rkm once.

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I never made seeds with it. I wasn't after flavors, just was using them as tarot
The oils smells and smoke tastes I like to have match each other.
Shit, I like seed appearances to match the strain and often I'll try to see if the small seed corresponds to some pheno, or if the solid shaded seed does. But can't really conclude much in my smallness.
The rkm seeds are all proper to my strange likes herein mentioned...

 

[THE PABLOS]

Took these pix this morning

Took these pix this morning

Here's the 2 trellised RKMs...you can see the plant on the right (the #3 selection) has a case of claw leaf. No matter how I feed her...no matter what temps I keep the studio..she claws up. I've accepted her claws...has no ill effects concerning flower making...as she's on par with her sisters.



This is the sister who was put into flower at the same time as the trellised girls (early 30s)...still unsupported..



And a look at the #1 selection (in her first couple of weeks in flower)...still totally "stock" as far as training goes...she is stretching out in a temporary corner..until I can take her out for pollination....then she'll have to be tied into something



* Taking these plants day by day...have no real feel for what they want to be. Not sure how effective the 12/12 light cycle will be...but they are getting lots of lumens

** all the RKM girls are about 6' tall....though the 3 that had their tops trained...have been kept shorter obviously. The untrained #1 selection still has more stretching to do as well.

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I used to say that leaf clawing was a factorial in protecting the calyxes.
I still think calyx protection factor is a a real trait concept/model.
But of course it's all just theoretical hogwash if u don't have proof that the clawwed plants are out surviving the pop by way of germination ratio or annual ratio of pheno appearances...

 

[THE PABLOS]

I used to say that leaf clawing was a factorial in protecting the calyxes.
I still think calyx protection factor is a a real trait concept/model.
But of course it's all just theoretical hogwash if u don't have proof that the clawwed plants are out surviving the pop by way of germination ratio or annual ratio of pheno appearances...

Yeah...the clawing has made me consider the amount of lumens being sprayed on her. She sits more in front of the 1000..could be she is freaked a bit by that. No ill effects that I can detect..other than the claws.

Being that these RKM plants show little to no indica influences...I don't know how well they are going to do under the 12/12 light cycle. I'm flowering them in a very rudimentary/generic sort of a way. These are the kind of plant expressions that will need a greenhouse or a specialized indoor sativa environment to pull out their best attributes.

* apologize for the junk pictures....I don't even like taking pix of the RKM...as there is no way to get realistic pictures

 

[Adze]

THE PABLOS,
I’ve been thinking about the claw foot symptom you were discussing. I’ve seen it on parts of a plant and not others. Is it possible that as young leaves begin to grow the heat from whatever lighting source dries out just the edge of the young leaf so as it grows the dried edge restricts growth, and the center continues growing creating the claw shape?

 

[Highlighter]

I always looked @ it as a sensitivity to nutes, esp. in the blue lines. Seems to happen after a feeding for me.

 

[THE PABLOS]

I have a Blueberry leaning Prune Juice doing the same clawing..most clawing is done towards the tops of the plants.

For sure seen the clawing many times in some Blue line expressions...I've thought it a nutrient issue in the past...but I also believe some are just that way. As long as they put out the flowers...however they do it

Only one RKM really claws up..and only one Prune Juice claws up..so in this case..I just check it off as an expression peculiarity. I've gone light on nutrients to this point..temps have been in range...pH is good I guess..mean the other plants are not clawing

* I'll be pollinating a couple more Prune Juice IX1 in the morning. That will bring me up to 4 females partially pollinated by the 2 males.

** This morning I also moved/tied off that other (not the #1 selection) RKM girl to her trellised sisters...thus extending the wall of RKM. That's basically what it is to...because after I pollinate the #1 selection...she'll be attached at the other end..to complete the wall....buckling down for the long haul...looking forward to their flower blasts

 

[Highlighter]

One of my four SCreme'N Dawg x Honey White's has some clawing going on, maybe eight leaves, and in one case, just two blades on a seven blade set.
Been pushing 'em hard before flush.

 

[THE PABLOS]

One of my four SCreme'N Dawg x Honey White's has some clawing going on, maybe eight leaves, and in one case, just two blades on a seven blade set.
Been pushing 'em hard before flush.

Was over looking in the threads...those are some nice looking plants you are growing. Very nice

 

[THE PABLOS]

Prune Juice IX1 pollinations continued

Prune Juice IX1 pollinations continued

Pulled these 2 girls out...day 24...to have their bottoms pollinated



None of the PJ have extensive side branching. They are all very squat plants. Mindful...none in their population have been topped for their flower run.

I'm not sure how well they'll yield (not great)..but my feeling is..that they are slow vegging plants..slow in nature..and had I topped..if there was more yield..surely I figure..the extended recovery time (from the topping) would have negated the extra weight

* Pollinating lightly. Have to..there is not much down their to work with...and I don't want to cream my yields too badly. Dusting with my brush..those chosen flowers...carefully...no bags...let sit for a 1/2 hr...spray down

I reckon..if I pollinate the lowers of every plant in the run..I should generate a decent enough amount of beans to represent the 3rd generation.

** Each Prune Juice is a killer little plant. Aromas are Blue oriented floral...mixed with dank berry mash. Very attractive plants to grow..but you have to gear yourself for their pace. Long to veg...short to flower...that's how I see this grow so far. Very ornamental expressions...really like this blend. Shows off how Grape Krush can be used to influence indica expression...maybe brings about a deep custom Blueberry indica.

*** The flower studio is crazy looking...with a wall of long flowering sativa...stretching all over the place..not even serious about making flowers...and

a crescent of stubby indica dominants...growing their flowers on a stick

I've added other things in...that I'm feeling are going to show some trip expressions..couple Mox Krox girls...are in..filling in gaps

**** messing with some "vine expression" Hell Hound IX1S1 beans...I'd like a wall of those plants..tied into a trellis. Put some in coco this morning...fresh beans you know..from that last Hell Hound run...self beans

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

Do u mean the rkm are just very long flowering which is why little flower formation thus far?

-in the last couple generations/runs:
Half of the rkm pool yielded 2x's that the other half of their siblings did, btw.

 

[THE PABLOS]

Do u mean the rkm are just very long flowering which is why little flower formation thus far?

-in the last couple generations/runs:
Half of the rkm pool yielded 2x's that the other half of their siblings did, btw.

Yeah...they look like they will be longer flowering plants...just by their flower stage of development. The ones in their mid 30s..are just now starting to look like something. I believe I'll see some differences in flower structure. No strong aromas yet.

Looking so forward to pollinating the #1 and getting her situated into the run. Still have at least another week..maybe more..before I can get enough bud growth..to hit her up for enough beans.

In the meantime...she is blasting growth...laterally and vertically..and I'm playing a game of 1/2 ass containment (for one thing..I don't want to move her to her actual spot...as it's in the back of the studio..and I'm only moving her once...and that's for the pollen)....until I can get her pollinated

Telling you though...for my purposes...if all comes out as I have envisioned...I'm looking to take the Sativa dominance of the RKM and anchor her down for indoor growing..with the nicely blended Indica dominant Prune Juice. That basically opens up all kinds of doors...some common..perhaps..to both lines.

I've accepted that I'm an indoor cultivator....have embraced it. I can only do so much with full bodied Sats indoors..so I'm big on modifying instead of replicating. Modify plants to fit my environment...in lieu of trying to replicate a specific outdoor sweet spot.

Pretty crazy plants...the RKMs...seem familiar at times..then totally foreign. My whole garden is running all over the place...it's like trying to manage plant personalities..to understand what must get done to leverage us onto a different plateau. Step after step

 

[THE PABLOS]

Trellis Flowers Day 37

Trellis Flowers Day 37

Purpose: Show expression differences in the 2 trellised RKM

Now...nearing their 40's I can easily make out (hope in these pix...you can as well) what I accept as...2 different expressions.



^ what you are seeing here is the bent top of the 'left' plant...and a side branch on the 'right' plant (from here on... I'll just call them Right and Left). Whereas the Left plant is faster..and developing powder puff flowers...the Right plant is slower..and is...forming what I'd consider..a more old skool sativa structure. You know...the ones with stringy/wispy spears/cones

Here's a couple pix of the bent top of the Right plant. She was a slightly bit more aggressive through veg...but the Left plant matched her aggressiveness in flower. Remember to...these plants..appeared uniform to me..all through veg



* I imagine different finish times...but probably safe to say...these 2 will go 90+ days

** I'm very thankful the run won't be uniform

*** The other sister at this age...looks to be forming the same flowers as the Right plant

**** I still hold on that...the #1 selection will show a totally different expression. Looking for blessings in her...breed her...and let her carry us into a new hole

anyway...the #1 was..if you remember...not the most vigorous plant in veg...in fact...was lazier than her sisters. She saved herself for the flower run...she is running all out now

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I was a long time- worried to my inner self, that the rkm filials would start looking like standard kalimist in the following generations (f5 and beyond)...I was fearful what I saw was recessive or transient appearance that appeared after the pheno/geno depletion threshold...but the 'stuff' /phenos coming out seems like strong genes, .- I'm glad the plants have segregated further from the rest of the kali lines out there, -from the looks of your plants thepablos, I'd say they are glad to have found your garden.
Everything Looks happpy happpy! Nice job well shown bro. I'm baked so read at own risk. I have disorder syndrome, lol isn't everything...

 

[THE PABLOS]

Be Bouncing Back To Prune Juice next couple days

Be Bouncing Back To Prune Juice next couple days

Nice mellow March storm we are having right now. Rain then snow

..be pollinating the last 2 Prune Juice IX1 females over the weekend. That will make 6 females partially pollinated by 2 males...and that..I'll call my introduction into the 3rd generation.

Here's a look at some of the PJ population (these are plants that have already been dusted)...going into full concentration on flower making...plant on the right end [in the 1st picture..2nd from the right in the 2nd picture]....is my #1 selection (note her leaves are a little different)



^ ...driven more by the 1st generation mom in structure...solid gourmet ornamentals

Remember I said I had a claw leaf Blueberry leaner? Here she is



^ Damn sure a Blueberry plant...and maybe...a really good one. The more she flowers...the more I like her..and the more I'm eyeing her for me vaporizer

* Haven't smoked herb in a month now. Been running often...running well. Vaporizing 2 bowls minutes before heading onto the trails....can be like running in an insulated bubble for a while. In time the bubble evaporates...but by then..the legs are warm and chopping..in method and form

** You may know...but it's relevant to mention again anyway...that the Querkle mom I used to make Prune Juice came from seeds that I bought on Seed Bay...sold as QX1..made by WhiskeyTango420..and were actually a multiple plant light leak intersex pollens...an accident

I made a thread about my experience somewhere?...or it's at least documented. Had a bunch of Space Queen leaners...and a couple Purple Urkel leaners. The SQ leaners showed a lot of intersex..and even though the smoke was good...they were no good to keep

The Purple Urkel leaner I selected (Prudence was her garden name) was way beyond all other expressions. I don't think she ever showed intersex either. Great plant...Great Mom...and I'll see her again and again in her offspring

Speaking of beans coming from intersex pollen...here's some sprouts coming up from selfed beans off the Hell Hound IX1 run



I wonder if the reality of males in our current populations...and going back further than that...is what it seems

 

[unclefishstick]

its funny,i have a cut known as gorilla glue #4,its basically the result of a lesbian three way...and yet it is far more stable than some of the traditional m/f bred plants in the same room...if i had known how it came to be i may not have been excited to get it,now having grown it its made me rethink a few things....

 

[budman678]

The blueberry claw dog reminds me of a Querkle I ran last year. Gorgeous brother

 

[chef]

I've always blamed nutes for clawing?
Although extreme heat can cause it also IME. Usually some heat callousing too if that's the case tho. Have a couple of haze hybrids doing it right now too.
I don't have the soft touch required by some of the more temperamental ones.
It's rocket fuel or the hiway