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Tsiro

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No there are no negatives - a female plant is a female plant regardless of how it was created. Unless you plan to breed more feminized plants, you will still need to find a male though. :tiphat:

Thank you Natural.
Things I keep hearing are the possiility of hermies, but that exists with regs aswell. But the otherone that has kept me worried is when someone said that there could be problems after few generations when bred from femmed. He didnt really explain it well though... so maybe just another myth?
 
Thank you Natural.
Things I keep hearing are the possiility of hermies, but that exists with regs aswell. But the otherone that has kept me worried is when someone said that there could be problems after few generations when bred from femmed. He didnt really explain it well though... so maybe just another myth?
Seeds created from a female that hermed due to a natural stress such as heat will certainly inherit that genetic sensitivity. Seeds from females reversed using chemicals (silver, GA3 etc) will inherit the same genetic stability of the parents.

And yes, problems after a few generations is a myth. Many people are fearful of feminized seeds, mainly due to a lack of understanding of the biology behind the technique.
 

onavelzy

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d36, Ace Malawis

d36, Ace Malawis

It's gotten very survival of the fittest in there. The malawis in the back part of the tent are nearly double the height of the three hybrid plants I have in the front of the tent.

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In the pic, the lower level of netting is at 3 feet up from the base. the second tier is 15 inches above that. the tallest branches of the malawi go above a foot over that higher netting. I put it in to support the relatively spindly branches but to also steer the branches away from the smaller plants up front. Otherwise, the Malawi would have just engulfed them and starved them of lumens.

I have a some of variation in the Malawis. The most noticeable plant, in the middle of the tent, flowered well before the other four. It has a large lead branch with multiple smaller side branches of flowering nodes. If they all fill in, it will be a huge cola. I've tried to get it to show on pics but so far it blends in to the green forest behind it.

Here's a blurry one from lights out time about 5 days ago:

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I'll get better pics. It looks better now that its getting fuller.

ok, that's the update. Hope everyone's grow is going great



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Tangwena

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Yes you are right thats going to be a big fat cola. thats a good pheno I hope you got clones.
Imagine a room full of plants like that with big clubs for colas.
Doesn't bear thinking about, well dreaming about maybe, nice work bring it home my friend.
Tangwena
 

Terpene

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:laughing: Now you know why I said to put the hybrids on buckets / platforms to match the eventual sativa canopy! :laughing:

Looking excellent, and just about exactly the way I expected it to look at this point. You're spot on, Malawi has been selected down, but there is still good variance within the line. Expect to find some plants finishing a bit faster than others as well as a pretty decent range of different smells - rotting wood / old used gear oil / lemons and some are orange-carroty.
 
Vegetative Growth

Vegetative Growth

I have 6 phenos of Malawi going right now. There are two distinct phenos so far. One will a very thin bladed leaf and the other is quite fatter and wider as far as the leaf structure. Just wondering if any one has any info as far as potential flowering times , stretch, etc. of these diff phenos
 

Texicwaste666

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I have 6 phenos of Malawi going right now. There are two distinct phenos so far. One will a very thin bladed leaf and the other is quite fatter and wider as far as the leaf structure. Just wondering if any one has any info as far as potential flowering times , stretch, etc. of these diff phenos
I have a Malawi journal going, check it out and you will see the development of both phenos from transplant to smart pots all the way through up to week 10 flower cycle where I am at now. These go about 13-14 weeks. They stretch for about four weeks after light change, do well with a scrog, but don't like ph fluctuations or super heavy feeding in flower cycle. There is a lot of info and pics there. Don't let the skinny nature of them fool you, they become monsters. Terpine and Tangwena have helped out a lot with mine. My plants have become monsters with so many big ass buds I can't count.
 

onavelzy

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I have 6 phenos of Malawi going right now. There are two distinct phenos so far. One will a very thin bladed leaf and the other is quite fatter and wider as far as the leaf structure. Just wondering if any one has any info as far as potential flowering times , stretch, etc. of these diff phenos

I'll pass on what little experience I have, fwiw.

I have 5 standard Malawis in coco in 2 g air pots.

There were some subtle differences early on when they were in veg, some were wider leaved some thin, some very vigorous, some moderately so, etc.

In week 7 of flower now. Four of them are following each other closely enough to be equivalent phenos: very tall, stretchy, spindly stems, slower to flower and fill in. continuing to grow even now. Some of the tips are above the light, which is at the top of my 7' 9" tent.

The fifth one is structurally and developmentally more desirable: it showed flower soon after I went to 11/13. It stopped growth after four weeks. It has developed dominant spears that are filling in wonderfully so far.

Here's a couple of pics from different angles:

The more rapidly maturing plant is the big spear in the middle. The rest of the plants all look pretty similar to the branches you see to the left of that middle plant.

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In this shot, you can better see the level of flowering so far in the other plants compared to the bigger spear on the right side of the photo

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The netting you see is the second tier and its at about 4 1/4 feet from the floor of the tent.
 

onavelzy

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Very nice! Did you keep clones? :tiphat:
I had two clones of each plant in the tent. Now I only have one of each. I got lazy in my surveillance of my veg area and had a thrip outbreak. I threw away the moms I had and only kept one clone of each plant. I've sprayed them with Spinosad twice now. The plants in the tent haven't shown anything like the veg closet but I sprayed once in there too, as best I could. I think having trimmed all the growth below the first scrog netting help limit the spread in there
 

onavelzy

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Instructional photo dump illustrating how not to do it

Instructional photo dump illustrating how not to do it

plant in the right corner, around 8 inches above the light, one inch from the top of the tent, which is at 7 ft 9 inches.

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the rest of the plants are only at the level of the bulb They look lower here due to the camera angle I took to avoid the light washing out the pic.

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That netting is at 4 ft 3 inches. It's a second tier. Don't think I can wiggle an effective third tier of netting in there. If the other plants fill out anywhere near what the early pheno did, I'm going to need some more support somehow. Maybe put in the pvc then weave bamboo stakes between the plants, resting them on the perimeter pvc
 

onavelzy

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haha wow those stretched nicely. that tall one looks like it cant handle the N.

I was thinking it was getting altitude sickness :biggrin:

The intolerance of nitrogen is something I'll have to look at. One of the other plants has a similar look. I've had a slight uptick in the rate of dropped leaves too.
 

dubi

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Hi onavelzy,

Seems you are getting very tropical sativa expressions in your Malawis.
Are you growing the regular or fem version ?
Malawi usually starts to gain weight (especially the more tropical sativa phenos) around this time of flowering.

If the taller Malawi that overgrown the height of the lamp is showing the curling only in the upper part of the plant (but not in the lower part under the lamp), then the curling in the upper part of the plant its due to lack of light intensity. If you are seeing the curling in the whole plant then is a nitrogen overfeeding.

I would consider to top the branches that are stretching out of control in your setup,
so the rest of the plant structures receive proper light intensity and therefore they will use all their energies to develop flowers that have enough light.

Hope it helps, Let me know if you have any other doubt.
 

onavelzy

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Hi onavelzy,

Seems you are getting very tropical sativa expressions in your Malawis.
Are you growing the regular or fem version ?
Malawi usually starts to gain weight (especially the more tropical sativa phenos) around this time of flowering.

If the taller Malawi that overgrown the height of the lamp is showing the curling only in the upper part of the plant (but not in the lower part under the lamp), then the curling in the upper part of the plant its due to lack of light intensity. If you are seeing the curling in the whole plant then is a nitrogen overfeeding.

I would consider to top the branches that are stretching out of control in your setup,
so the rest of the plant structures receive proper light intensity and therefore they will use all their energies to develop flowers that have enough light.

Hope it helps, Let me know if you have any other doubt.

That absolutely helps Dubi, Thank you.

The curling is at the top one foot. I didn't know how disruptive topping would be at this point but I will try that for those two plants.

These are the regular Malawis. They are the gifted seeds that Ace provides with orders.
 
Long time

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Sorry to just ass in here, can anyone inform me if they have a pheno like mine.....this some pics of most recent grow of my Malawi and they are ready for harvest before 90 days. Last run I let the two I had go as long as possible and still was cocked full of amber n clouded trichs and this girl is at day 77
 

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onavelzy

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Sorry to just ass in here, can anyone inform me if they have a pheno like mine.....this some pics of most recent grow of my Malawi and they are ready for harvest before 90 days. Last run I let the two I had go as long as possible and still was cocked full of amber n clouded trichs and this girl is at day 77

mine are quite different but i took the route of essentially no supercropping and minimal defoliation (until the last two weeks when I had to do some of both). Im at D 67 now and your heads are more nug-like than mine and your calyces are definitely more swollen than mine. Even my fastest developing plant is weeks to go
 

Mr.Revolution

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Sorry to just ass in here, can anyone inform me if they have a pheno like mine.....this some pics of most recent grow of my Malawi and they are ready for harvest before 90 days. Last run I let the two I had go as long as possible and still was cocked full of amber n clouded trichs and this girl is at day 77
I think i may have the same one. Mine is only 7 weeks since first pistles and the calyxes are quite fat. Its had good resing coverage almost as soon as it showed pistles. Its in 3 1/2 gallons of soil and it did stretch much( and i dont think it will yeild well). 10 inches at start and roughly 2 feet now. And its been done streching bout 2 weeks ago. It smells strongly of some kind of tropical fruit maybe mango but not really any citrus. Its very sweet smelling almost candy like. Theres also a slight woodsy smell.Although i dont think it will yeild well it sure is frosty
 

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