a ppk for a 6 plant limit

[McKush]

Hiya cob - u replied to yourself before i could... lol Get at least 1/4 inch float valve like u see us use. Amazon is good. Growershouse is good. And local hydro store if one near you.

If i were to do it again id get the 3/8 valve since ive had to blow thru mine to clear it a couple of times in over the years. But ive gotva 55gal bulk res too which isnt your situation. You prolly dont need or want the 3/8 one, get a 1/4.

 

[McKush]

So this is the photo i may have been referring to.... dunno not my plant. Look close at the base and that little black tub is a 20ish inch wide 7gal tub. I cant veg in them because they are too wide for my doors and too big for my setup. I put 4 tubs in a 5x5.5 and can sometimes manage it sometimes not. Havin' fun and learnin' here. Had to cull a plant that got too big for my room and was going to take too long. Needed a tree saw to cut it down.... (ppk is not the only piece in a grow system, environmental control and vertical grow plane space, lighting being just as important)

BUT - Av8or aint normal either! He is an exceptionally quick study leveraging someone who has spent considerable years R&Dng this method. Av is exceptionally well trained n studied and he has a good background. Not everyone will be able to have a system capable of that.

Love it Cap!

 

[DunHav`nFun]

Well Slipknot , I assure you those unicorns are out there and being grown consistently by all the growers Av8or mentioned along with many more at other private places that I`ve turned onto the setup since I grew a 3+ lber last summer with all but no effort and still have over 1/2 of the Chem D x SFV OG left after giving away a bunch for Xmas last yr.....

Strain selection drives the proper hybrid candidate for the correct growth structure as in Xmas tree shape with every lateral limb all the way to the ceiling turned into continuous colas....that`s with Bare bulbs hangin though , and the more indica dominant hybrids grow more sideways than vertically and need longer vegtimes to get to the same heights and yield similarly , but look at the size of Av8or`s bush and cage around it...Hell....

I can`t remember how long ago it was when Heath Robinson showed a 5 lb indoor plant grown with buncha bulbs around the plant turning on and off every few hrs to conserve energy but blast the plant from all sides constantly like the sun moving across the sky kinda thingy.....anyways.....

Never say never bro....you`re destined to eat crow guaranteed...Remember ......we`re all just a minute miniscule very few compared to how many folks at private places and the majority of huge ass commercial growers who go nowhere near the internet , and all things are possible given a prepared mind and the means to proceed....regardless.....PPK FTW in my book....

I might grow another plant next yr.........

Peace....DHF.........

 

[McKush]

DHF - when a great grower meets a great system/room many magic things can happen. Its no surprise to me that a good grower like you (to start with) can do amazing things in a well designed room with PPK.

i'm doing ok with really no background in agriculture or knowledge of the plant and may have been at this longer than Av by just a little but his knowledge is far superior to mine and his results show it. im making mistakes aplenty still cause i have tons to learn and process to improve upon or perfect. and it aint no race, so i got time to get better until i don't have any more time. (you too folks)

my process and results have improved rapidly but there are still places i am really screwing up and some places i just need to get a little better. its all good though if you enjoy learnin' and havin' fun while at it.

other side of the coin is that ppk ain't all of it... not in Av D9 or some of the others case here, skilled, observant, growers with knowledge of the plant life cycle

 

[delta9nxs]

for reference the container that you can barely see at the bottom of this plant is only 22" in diameter. that makes this plant over 10' in diameter

 

[C.O.B.]

How goes it McKush, lol yea I did didn't eye? Was trying to avoid ordering it. Called the hydro store today and of course they have them......75% markup that is!!!!! $8.00-$12.00 reg store or online.$23.50 at the hydro shop. Hahhaaaa....guess what? I'm on my way to the hydro store lol. Thanks Mckush. Peace.

C.O.B.

 

[Snook]

How goes it McKush, lol yea I did didn't eye? Was trying to avoid ordering it. Called the hydro store today and of course they have them......75% markup that is!!!!! $8.00-$12.00 reg store or online.$23.50 at the hydro shop. Hahhaaaa....guess what? I'm on my way to the hydro store lol. Thanks Mckush. Peace.

C.O.B.

Buy only 1 at the hydro store and another online for backup..

 

[C.O.B.]

Will do. As a matter of fact I ordered it after replying to Mckush. For a backup as stated. Good looking out Snook. Peace.

C.O.B.

 

[C.O.B.]

D9 I was reading one of IF's threads. I saw you mention having the pump bucket and the control bucket seperate. This = the 3 bucket system you and av8 are currently using? Bulk,control,& pump? Peace.

C.O.B.

 

[av8or]

D9 I was reading one of IF's threads. I saw you mention having the pump bucket and the control bucket seperate. This = the 3 bucket system you and av8 are currently using? Bulk,control,& pump? Peace.

C.O.B.

The three bucket system is just another way to do it. I actually don't use it anymore. I have four or five different ppk setups based on the physical layout of the room and how I want to place the plants in it.

The formula for success in a ppk relies less on which setup you choose and more on environmental controls, strain selection and feed scheduling. Dial in your grow room first. Then build whichever ppk setup works best for your layout.

In my 4 plant rooms I use a cereal box in a 27 gallon tote for my float bucket and pump bucket. 4 x 185(ish) gph pumps that individually go to each plant but are all four located in that same 27 gallon tote. Super clean and simple. See attached.

 

[fliptopbox]

What light fixtures are you guys using for the vertical lights?

 

[Mr Blah]

This one isn't bad and it is 14g wire.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121341349096?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

 

[av8or]

What light fixtures are you guys using for the vertical lights?

Any one that you can disassemble enough to make it work. Some are sold in mogul sockets just as is, which is perfect. But whatever works, really. Most all of them will. Don't go buy new lights if you already have some in fixtures. Just take the fixtures apart.

 

[DelTaco]

What's going on with my turface? I am trying to get my system stabilized before I put my clones into it but PH keeps shooting up. I will PH it down to around 3 and after just a few times of running the pump the PH is back up at 6. WTF? Is turface that high in PH? Do I need to soak it in ph adjusted water or something? I've keep adding in ph down over the last couple days and it just keeps going back up. Any help would be highly appreciated.

 

[delta9nxs]

D9 I was reading one of IF's threads. I saw you mention having the pump bucket and the control bucket seperate. This = the 3 bucket system you and av8 are currently using? Bulk,control,& pump? Peace.

C.O.B.

i'm currently setting up a 2 bucket per plant site system and i'll have some pictures shortly.

 

[C.O.B.]

i'm currently setting up a 2 bucket per plant site system and i'll have some pictures shortly.

Thanks D9. I'll wait for it. Haven't started building yet. Wanted to do bit more reading. Lol Now that I have all the parts sans timer, Im ppk nervous!!!!

D9, ya did say the turface needn't be screened if also running it with perlite correct? Found it at a ewing irrigation 2 miles away,$12.50 a bag!!! Thanks for taking your time out to help a ppk noob such as myself. Peace.

C.O.B.

 

[delta9nxs]

What's going on with my turface? I am trying to get my system stabilized before I put my clones into it but PH keeps shooting up. I will PH it down to around 3 and after just a few times of running the pump the PH is back up at 6. WTF? Is turface that high in PH? Do I need to soak it in ph adjusted water or something? I've keep adding in ph down over the last couple days and it just keeps going back up. Any help would be highly appreciated.

turface has a substance ph of 6.1-6.2 and the jack's 2 part is about the same. the plants love it so don't fight it.

this whole 5.8 ph thing in fast moving hydro is just an imaginary point in the middle of a large band of acceptable ph. it is not an "ideal" point.

 

[delta9nxs]

Thanks D9. I'll wait for it. Haven't started building yet. Wanted to do bit more reading. Lol Now that I have all the parts sans timer, Im ppk nervous!!!!

D9, ya did say the turface needn't be screened if also running it with perlite correct? Found it at a ewing irrigation 2 miles away,$12.50 a bag!!! Thanks for taking your time out to help a ppk noob such as myself. Peace.

C.O.B.

actually, av8or has been using 50/50 turface and perlite and he's not screening just washing the shit out of it.

i may go that route too as i've been running coco/perlite mixes and having more bug issues than i'm used to with turface.

 

[C.O.B.]

Any ppker here use the mist king timers? Link to the site says they are sold out but have a vendor in Cali that sells them on a first come first serve basis, but the vendors link is broken. Peace.

C.O.B.

 

[Mr Blah]

I never started screening my turface from the get go a few months ago when I saw that av8or didn't and mixed it with perlite.
I put mine into a wheel burrow and soak and push all around than strain threw a bucket with holes. All the cloudy water and fine granular s rush through and leave the bigger shit.
That's all I did.