a ppk for a 6 plant limit

[McKush]

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[Gry]

Been doing 35 seconds every 90 mins. Plants are real happy with it ! Kind of hate to try to pull it back a whole lot right now, as I flipped them about a week back.
Kinda at a loss here, never had a gnat infestation. I did have thrips once and it looked way too much like this. Sprayed the plants and area down with spinosad/safers soap at lights off.
Neat picture of the plant headed down river. That was an easy vote to make.

 

[Snook]

Seeing more gnats than what I am used to. Is this an issue for anyone else ?

No gnats for a long time here.


and that makes me HAPPY AS HELL!


Did ya change anything gry?

 

[Mr Blah]

Been doing 35 seconds every 90 mins. Plants are real happy with it ! Kind of hate to try to pull it back a whole lot right now, as I flipped them about a week back.
Kinda at a loss here, never had a gnat infestation. I did have thrips once and it looked way too much like this. Sprayed the plants and area down with spinosad/safers soap at lights off.
Neat picture of the plant headed down river.

I used mosquito dunks in my large UC system and got rid of them.

 

[Gry]

At lights on, the population looked as it had in the past- very few here and there. The plants will be sprayed twice more this week with the spinosid/safers mixture. The input was appreciated.

 

[Snook]

I forget, av8tor? D9? one of you asked about hydraulic action modification, its been 10 days since I started ppks with this root stop. since then, I've taken a piece and put over a glass both tight, it runs off and cupped, it puddles and filters thru. will all the little holes clog with roots late in bloom? I'll take a shot, whish I had done only 1 instead of all ofem.


I'm also noticing the top layer of the turface is more semi wet when putting the same amount of juice in the pulse. I'll put more time between pulses until its mostly dry but they are kickinin very nicely.

 

[fliptopbox]

What would your ideal room size be for 4 plants and 5 1K lights? I'm thinking 9'x9'x9' and growing trees; hopefully 2 pounders.

 

[gmanwho]

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[Mr Blah]

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[420ish]

7. Wrap 27 gallon tote in reflictix

8. Wrap 6.5 gallon tub in reflectix

9. Make a super slick halo like we did

10. Cut a hole in the reflectix where you put the wick through the lid (directly in the middle, in case there is some confusion here)

11. Put all pieces together so that it looks like the room below and the super sweet outdoor experiment does.

av8or or d9 i am thinking of using these totes as stand alone units.do you think i would need the cereal container around the float?with an individual pump and float in each unit i dont think the float would over fill the tote since all the return would be almost instant and the floats do not fill that fast.i am going for a clean and simpler set up with only the 1/4 inch line from my reservoir barrel to the 27 gallon tote float.i am planning on a 100 gph pump in each tote.
my goal is to run 1 plant a week perpetual and by doing each tote individually i will only have the top off supply line running to each site.
it will make cleaning each site easier with no return lines and feed supply lines to a central system.

 

[delta9nxs]

What would your ideal room size be for 4 plants and 5 1K lights? I'm thinking 9'x9'x9' and growing trees; hopefully 2 pounders.

i like at least a 10x10 preferably a 12x12. with a 12x12 and those same lights you veg them slightly longer and get 3 lbs per plant.

 

[av8or]

av8or or d9 i am thinking of using these totes as stand alone units.do you think i would need the cereal container around the float?with an individual pump and float in each unit i dont think the float would over fill the tote since all the return would be almost instant and the floats do not fill that fast.i am going for a clean and simpler set up with only the 1/4 inch line from my reservoir barrel to the 27 gallon tote float.i am planning on a 100 gph pump in each tote.
my goal is to run 1 plant a week perpetual and by doing each tote individually i will only have the top off supply line running to each site.
it will make cleaning each site easier with no return lines and feed supply lines to a central system.

So, you're saying you'd like to use a 27 gallon container as the bottom bucket and leave out the traditional volume reservoir?

Yes, you'll need the cereal box in the tub. Trust me on that one. It may not be overnight but it will eventually over flow. You'd have to nail timing.perfectly. it's so much easier to just put a 3/32" hole in a plastic cereal box.

I would advise against having your float valve.under a plant site. Imagine a scenario where you need to access the float valve but you have a fat, flowering plant trellised on top of the res. You're up the proverbial creek at that point.

In my not so humble opinion, the most reliable and easy to use setup looks something like this:
For every 4-8 plants but another 27 gallon res. Use the neoprene garden hose for return lines. Use a cereal box for the float. Use a 3.5 gallon bottom bucket for the bottom bucket. Use 185(ish) gph pumps for each site. They can all have hoses sticking out of the res instead of building difficult and often faulty manifolds.

My only warning about 1/4" lines is to ensure you clean them out periodically. They develop a protein layer that clogs the inside of the hose eventually.

 

[420ish]

i have three systems as you describe running now.4 plants going to a 27 gal tote for the res.i am using the rough neck 3 gallon totes for top and bottom due to current height restrictions.i have had problems with air lock after cleaning out the system and the bottom buckets over flowing.
i have had a res start leaking after installing or replacing equipment near the res and someone just stepping on the hoses near the res.
in my new room i will gladly give up some height to remove the chance of them happening again and making clean up maintenance easier.
i will definitely use a cereal box in each tote.
thank you for your input it is much appreciated!

 

[Snook]

i have three systems as you describe running now.4 plants going to a 27 gal tote for the res.i am using the rough neck 3 gallon totes for top and bottom due to current height restrictions.i have had problems with air lock after cleaning out the system and the bottom buckets over flowing.
i have had a res start leaking after installing or replacing equipment near the res and someone just stepping on the hoses near the res.
in my new room i will gladly give up some height to remove the chance of them happening again and making clean up maintenance easier.
i will definitely use a cereal box in each tote.
thank you for your input it is much appreciated!

for what its worth 420, I use volume>control>pump rezs and for the first week to ten days of a run, I do not feed from the volume to the control rez because of the same overflow condition.. my air gap is 4".. stopped trying to adjust things otherwise.. I tried the little rez inside the bigger rez w 3/32 hole same thing.. went back to basics.

 

[McKush]

i have three systems as you describe running now.4 plants going to a 27 gal tote for the res.i am using the rough neck 3 gallon totes for top and bottom due to current height restrictions.i have had problems with air lock after cleaning out the system and the bottom buckets over flowing.
i have had a res start leaking after installing or replacing equipment near the res and someone just stepping on the hoses near the res.
in my new room i will gladly give up some height to remove the chance of them happening again and making clean up maintenance easier.
i will definitely use a cereal box in each tote.
thank you for your input it is much appreciated!

i use 3/4" bulkheads on my return lines. i know many people like the simplicity and lower cost of the 'ol just-poke-it-thru approach but my fear and dislike of leaks far outweighs any pride that i may have on the subject. My floor area is not very big so bumping lines and stepping on them is an unfortunate given even though i run the lines on the perimeter.

 

[Snook]

i use 3/4" bulkheads on my return lines. i know many people like the simplicity and lower cost of the 'ol just-poke-it-thru approach but my fear and dislike of leaks far outweighs any pride that i may have on the subject. My floor area is not very big so bumping lines and stepping on them is an unfortunate given even though i run the lines on the perimeter.

10 4 on the little floor area...I only go in there bare footed, best leak detector and no stepping on water lines.

 

[av8or]

Hmmmm.....never had a leak and I've built upwards of 250 ppk sites with out any fittings. I step on my hoses and it isn't caused me trouble yet either. I'm confused how people are getting leaks.

 

[Snook]

Hmmmm.....never had a leak and I've built upwards of 250 ppk sites with out any fittings. I step on my hoses and it isn't caused me trouble yet either. I'm confused how people are getting leaks.

"Never"??? I wish I could say 'never' but stoner I am, some times I forget to ??? open the over flow.. whatever.. it doesn't happen very often now but 'never'! youda man..

 

[av8or]

Never a leak from a hose/bucket connection, no. But that's not to say I don't over fill the nute res weekly, pouring water absolutely everywhere. That's mostly because I misjudge the amount of dabs I can hit while the 55 gallon drum is filling. Whenever I try to sneak one more in, I forget I'm doing plant work and I dump water everywhere. Just not from the hose fittings.