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That 2nd pic reminds me of a caged gorilla. Bad ass.
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a ppk for a 6 plant limit
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Globule
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Very much looking forward to your new thread bro!
Very interesting that Oregon has discovered the vert forum on ICMAG and as a result has introduced a 6-pound limit on a single plant
Boutique Manettino
Member
Respect!
Besides whatever you hung in a fixture above that monster u harvested, did you get beyond (4) vertical bulbs surrounding it? (or did that do it?)
(this is a ridiculous conversation to be having haha.... "did you find that 5-lights per plant was sufficient or did it take more")
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UNREAL! I just read this whole thread minus some BS earlier before page 50. Can't access 102,103.
Anyway been doing DIY 4 site UC 5 bulbs diamond pattern for a few yrs and finally hit my 2# mark pr/plant.
Trying ways to cut operational cost I started lingering outside the UC world.....Wow! I originally saw this thread when it started with D9 but neglected it do to not wanting change...something stupid (caught up in my UC world).
Nedless to say..I have three flower rooms with a veg tent going up. I am going to building me a system.
Thanks d9, AV, DHF and many others I had the joy of reading and learning. Still learning and will always.
Anyway been doing DIY 4 site UC 5 bulbs diamond pattern for a few yrs and finally hit my 2# mark pr/plant.
Trying ways to cut operational cost I started lingering outside the UC world.....Wow! I originally saw this thread when it started with D9 but neglected it do to not wanting change...something stupid (caught up in my UC world).
Nedless to say..I have three flower rooms with a veg tent going up. I am going to building me a system.
Thanks d9, AV, DHF and many others I had the joy of reading and learning. Still learning and will always.
I hope you find something useful GR! feel free to use, not use, adapt as you see fit. Nothing I'm doing is mandatory or anything. Do what is best in your situation. My setup is geared to my room and my goals, so they may be different than yours.
For all those looking for more information on PPK, I had reserved the second page of my McPpk thread for future use. I think my own personal thread subscription folder may be helpful to put into a webpage that can be used when researching PPK or keeping track of a particular thread. You can access it with the link below.
PPK Link-O-Rama
Awesome pic brother! i had no doubt that you would attain your goal. Just beautiful. You should put them in the PPK plants thread bro, your a star.
more on ya
gardener60
Active member
That is one big plant. That is what you call a tree. Awesome.
^ No.
RO/DI is often mentioned because many people using PPK also use Jacks hydro formulas which are designed for RO water. You can use jacks without RO, you won't be arrested for that, but its not how it is designed to be used. Tap water fluctuates all over the place, no one can give you a formula that works well when the starting source is different at every point of use. However, everyones RO water is for all intents n purposes, identical, if they have a proper filtration unit, so its the common starting point for formulations. That's why you see it mentioned so much on this thread and others.
The nutrient solution for PPK can be anything suited for hydro use, jacks works great tho so many people don't look for anything more once they start using it. The often sited recommendation is 600PPM start to finish, you'll see people varying that though.
RO/DI is often mentioned because many people using PPK also use Jacks hydro formulas which are designed for RO water. You can use jacks without RO, you won't be arrested for that, but its not how it is designed to be used. Tap water fluctuates all over the place, no one can give you a formula that works well when the starting source is different at every point of use. However, everyones RO water is for all intents n purposes, identical, if they have a proper filtration unit, so its the common starting point for formulations. That's why you see it mentioned so much on this thread and others.
The nutrient solution for PPK can be anything suited for hydro use, jacks works great tho so many people don't look for anything more once they start using it. The often sited recommendation is 600PPM start to finish, you'll see people varying that though.
Thanks for the quick reply McKush.
Been reading a lot of your threads and D's and others. Just about ready to jump.
Been running DIY UC systems for a few yrs with no RO water..Salt/calcium is building up. Will the buckets do this in the PPK system also?
I have read from 09 threads and seen a lot of variations....What is the latest?
I am think I am going to use a 3.5 gal pan on top of 3.5gal bucket.IS this correct? I am wondering how stable this is with 3 of her friends in a 6'x6' tent.
I saw that this is not good for floods and needs to be feed by pulse. This still true?
Thank you.
Been reading a lot of your threads and D's and others. Just about ready to jump.
Been running DIY UC systems for a few yrs with no RO water..Salt/calcium is building up. Will the buckets do this in the PPK system also?
I have read from 09 threads and seen a lot of variations....What is the latest?
I am think I am going to use a 3.5 gal pan on top of 3.5gal bucket.IS this correct? I am wondering how stable this is with 3 of her friends in a 6'x6' tent.
I saw that this is not good for floods and needs to be feed by pulse. This still true?
Thank you.
I just want to interject here for a minute on the subject of the original 3.5 gal pan shown at the start of this thread.
We now believe that it is a little bit too shallow.
It has a maximum medium depth of about 3.5" and i don't think that is deep enough for the hydraulics to work correctly.
A 3.5 gal bucket filled to 7" is about 2.5 gals of media.
You can grow 1.5 to 2 lb plants in that.
We now believe that it is a little bit too shallow.
It has a maximum medium depth of about 3.5" and i don't think that is deep enough for the hydraulics to work correctly.
A 3.5 gal bucket filled to 7" is about 2.5 gals of media.
You can grow 1.5 to 2 lb plants in that.
Wow! graced with the big D himself...speachless
Do you mean using 2-3.5 gal buckets set up one in the other?
If so how will that give the air gap necessary for this method? I see Globule doing something pertaining to that.
I need something stable as I will be doing vertical screens, flatting the plant into two dimensional training playing field, seen also in Globules threads. Four will be set up in each tent hugging 2-1k lights stacked.
Another thing is vegging. I will be taking from a separate vegging area and throwing into flower when 4-5' is reached.
Can I just leave the bottom bucket and transfer the upper bucket into flower area? I have read your cloning/young rooted cloning area but it is not practical for me.
Thank you for letting me pick your brain....I promise I will leave some.
Wow! graced with the big D himself...speachless
Do you mean using 2-3.5 gal buckets set up one in the other?
If so how will that give the air gap necessary for this method? I see Globule doing something pertaining to that.
I need something stable as I will be doing vertical screens, flatting the plant into two dimensional training playing field, seen also in Globules threads. Four will be set up in each tent hugging 2-1k lights stacked.
Another thing is vegging. I will be taking from a separate vegging area and throwing into flower when 4-5' is reached.
Can I just leave the bottom bucket and transfer the upper bucket into flower area? I have read your cloning/young rooted cloning area but it is not practical for me.
Thank you for letting me pick your brain....I promise I will leave some.
Yes, a 3.5 on a 3.5. You maintain a 7" water level in the lower bucket giving you a 4" air gap as the buckets are 11" high.
One of the nice features of this system is that you can just lift a plant out of one system a move it to another. We are setting up a production line type of scenario which is not practical for most home growers so you may have to transplant up a couple of times if you have limited space.
Better hurry on that brain picking thing, there's not much left!
Boutique Manettino
Member
have all my 3.5 g stacked on 3.5 g come back in vogue again?
3.5 bucket are the new black for the Spring Fashion season. I am current.
but I have sidewall holes.
but then solution drains out of the sidewall holes.
but then I use a swizzle stick for a tail pipe and seem to avoid clog-related issues.
3.5 bucket are the new black for the Spring Fashion season. I am current.
but I have sidewall holes.
but then solution drains out of the sidewall holes.
but then I use a swizzle stick for a tail pipe and seem to avoid clog-related issues.
I can only speak to jacks 5 12 26 because thats all ill ever used in my system. I ran maxibloom coco DTW before ppk with jacks but didnt like some aspects of it. I researched various methods of recirculation and chose ppk as the best fit for me after lots of reading icmag. I dont know what your stuff runs but i buy it in 25lb size and bulk store it. I keek a qt dry of each out which i use for stock. My costs per gallon are in the pennies i would guess really dont know. Its freaking cheap though dude.
Ive only used 2 types of nutes and my goals are to keep feed simple. I cant stand adjusting ph. So my opinion probably doesnt mean much. There is a good thread on it here you should read.
oti$
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Any formula works. I've used gh6/9 and maxi, house & garden and canna...Jacks is the cheapest.
I haven't been in here in quite a while and I now you guys are pullin' five pounders?! DANG MANG! I am putting together a new room that actually has some head room so I may have to build a ppk. You guys are killing it
