3x 23W CFL / PC Case / Soil / Bagseed

[dlusion]

Nutrients are tricky, if you have an organic nursery around, you can probably make a few trips with different people and avoid the 'noia. Otherwise the only method I know of is biting the bullet and ordering nutrients online or visiting a hydro store. Unfortunetly, nutrients intended for this type of plant are pretty spescific. Using electrical tape on your paperclips is pretty inventive, and should work, just try and keep a wide layer of electrical tape on it(alot of the time, stem growth into tiedowns really has more to do with a thin tie). I also heartedly reccomend water treated with reverse osmosis or ionization, regular tap water in most cases will harm the plant; you can buy these types of water from most stores, most companies print their purification process on the bottle/jug. Hope my advice helps

I drink tonnes of bottled water. The CANNABIS plant gets the same treatment (I've read way too many articles discussing the harm of tap water)!

There is a nursery I know of around here that should be able to come up with any nutrients necessary, and I suppose I could just tell 'em my tomato plant has a calcium deficiency. Are tomato plants similar enough to just talk to one of the employees about what kind of nutrients my tomato plant needs to be healthy? What should I be looking for?

What I know:

Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, and Calcium are needed during the flowering stages of a cannabis plant. Phosphorus and potassium are required in greater amounts than nitrogen at this stage, and calcium should already be in the soil to some degree. If measured using the 'NPK' format, I should be looking for a plant food with roughly twice the amount of 'P' and 'K' than 'N'. So, something like 10-20-20, with other random nutrients thrown in.

What I don't know:

Where the heck are plant nutrients sold with the 'NPK' system? I can usually find bags with percentages on 'em, but never in that specific format and usually with inadequate phosphorous and potassium.

Also, I don't know if the plant can just be sustained with what it already has in the soil. I'd imagine the amount of nutrients would degrade over time, but could the life cycle of one plant be supported by soil alone?

P.S. Yes, I'm a paranoid motherfucker. I don't view using cannabis as illegal, and I don't plan on getting caught by people who do. Honestly, if my home was invaded I'd probably shoot the fuckers. The idea itself scares the living shit out of me. I don't know how or why anyone would suspect me of cultivation, but the thought of my life being wrecked over a harmless plant worries the piss out of me. Now that I'm all worked up, I should probably go enjoy a nice smoke session and chill. Have a great day everyone, and thanks for the comments!



One more thing, took a couple close up 'artsy' shots a while back, figured I'd share 'em since I haven't been able to get pictures of the new growth.




Also, why the heck does the 'drag and drop images from ICMag Gallery' feature only work occasionally?

 

[dlusion]

I don't know how apparent it is, but the main shoot has become quite vibrantly green! The plant seems healthy overall, and if I'm correct the plant indeed is female. Can anyone say for certain?

I haven't had the opportunity to change the pot itself, but I did acquire a better one with non-clear sides. No root damage for me!

This growth and vibrance occurred directly after I administered a small dosage of that 'Miracle-Shit' in liquid form. I dissolved about seven nougats of nutritional goodness in a bottle of water and watered the plant the usual amount. I've seen no negative side effect from the Miracle-Gro thus far. Perhaps individual plants are picky?

The lighting system has yet to change. I've been in somewhat of a financial crunch lately, but I do think I've worked out a method of re-rigging the lights for optimum efficiency. Instead of the lateral way the lights are arranged now, I will make a 'ring' effect and angle the CFL's about 15° from the top of the case and center the plant in the middle of said 'ring'. Thoughts?

Cheers!

dlusion

 

[cork144]

too young to tell, also the bottled water your using, does the state the ph of the water on the lable? some bottled water in the uk is very alkaline, 8.1ph ect.. that wouldnt be good to pour on a plant unless your soil is too acidic.

 

[irie4i]

Sounds like a good plan for the light design. I wouldn't worry too much about rehanging your lights as much as I would probably invest in some kind of mylar or some extra coats of white paint, and cut out those HDD bays above the plant. Utilizing all the space at your means can make a diffrence, those peices of metal are imposing on what might otherwise be a frosty nug! The problem most people have with miracle-gro is that not only are the nutrients in the wrong balance formula(I can't remeber the exact #'s at the moment), they are meant to be a "time release" fertilizer; adding random doses of nutes to your girl and even necro'ing roots from acid contact. I would stop using miracle-gro, bite the bullet and buy atleast a one-year supply of soil and nutes from a hydro store, for you in a PC space, this will probably be less than $100 and will probably last you longer than a year. A plant with a healthy medium can really make an obvious difference.

 

[Pyrosin]

get your plant closer to the light... i have a small plant under 140 watts 2 inches away, just check it once a day. i cant justify spending $100 on a small plant for personal use for nutes and soil. maybe get or make a reflector out of a pie tin mounted directly above the lights. and miracle grow can work in veg but i havent seen anything that has the correct stuff for bloom. as you are in 12-12 trying to induce flowering i would def get something for that(tiger bloom, any ff or an nutes, big bud) in exchange for the miracle grow. if you would really like to induce flowering give it 48-60 hrs of dark then back to 12-12. give it a day or two and it will show. good luck

 

[Mk3Jetta]

nice lookin grow you got going on. I'm gonna have to check this out later on down the road to see how your doing!

 

[dlusion]

Uh oh, I think my plant is a male. I'm pretty sure it's showing male sex, but is there any possibility that it's a herm? Here are the pics for evidence:

Do I just pull it? How do I know if it's hermy or not? It is from bagseed, so it's entirely possible...

 

[immaculate]

Looks like a male.

You'd see hairs at one growth node and balls on another. Looks like balls all the way through to me.

 

[Fuzz420]

oh no, throw it out and start over

 

[dlusion]

Well, FUCK.


I already had another seed germ'd and ready to plant, so I just did that... I'm really damned sad that my first ended up being male...




Well, hopefully the next iteration will be female!



PS, I know it won't get me high, but what can I do with the leaves of the plant? Make joint papers? How do I get 'em to stick together?

 

[immaculate]

Well, FUCK.


I already had another seed germ'd and ready to plant, so I just did that... I'm really damned sad that my first ended up being male...




Well, hopefully the next iteration will be female!



PS, I know it won't get me high, but what can I do with the leaves of the plant? Make joint papers? How do I get 'em to stick together?

My dad is an old head. He said he'd smoke the male leaves and shit to catch a buzz if nothing else was around. I'm sure you could get a kief or hash out of it I dunno..


Why not start more than one plant?

 

[dlusion]

If I started two plants and they both were female, I'd want to keep both. I only have room for one plant, though...

 

[ScrubNinja]

Hmmm two females and the ability to pick and choose the best one to keep, versus no females... better luck with the new plant, man.

When I was a kid I'd only tried weed once or twice but then my friend somehow managed to grow a huuuge male in a clearing in the rainforest (his first grow). It turned out to be male and he kept pulling off the male flowers so it'd keep growing bigger, eventually re-vegged, and got to 8 or 9 ft tall. It seems like my whole early youth was fuelled by this one plant. But it is very weak smoke if you've got any tolerance. I would use it in cooking myself, if it's sizeable.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

I have a few males now and 1 looks healthy enough to even eat like in a salad.
so I think I might just eat him all up.

start over ull get a female soon or later. GL dude.

 

[Spicoli]

Sux to hear bout the male...start 2 or 3 next time...like everyones said havin 2 females to choose from is a GOOD problem...put the one you cant keep outside or somethin...good luck to your next grow

 

[dlusion]

You're right, I could always give away the unwanted female to a friend.

That'd feel like giving away a child at birth...

 

[Spicoli]

ya it sucks but, your freind will be stoked and if hes a good freind hell give you a nug or two when its done...Peace

 

[dlusion]

In addition to the initial replacement bean, I planted two more popped beans. I might have left them in the wet-biodome thing too long, as the roots are tinged slightly yellow and one of them is already trying to make leaves and kick the shell of the seed off. I'm making this post to remind myself of when I planted these guys. For now, they're all in one 2qt container.

 

[Melkor420]

I usually start 5 babies at at time. This way, you get a lot of options. Options are always good with bagseads. one might be tall and thin, where the other might be dense and stubby. If you get another male round, I would surely try a little bit more as a base #. Good luck with the two new ones, I've got my fingers crossed for girls.

 

[dlusion]

Thanks Melkor! The one 'sprout' that's already popping is already a lengthy and slim creature. That may just be normal for a plant grown under CFL's, though. Both of my sprouts have been stretchy little tykes at birth.

Any recommendation on a transplant date? I've read that it's typically best to give them time to root before initial transplant, but I've no idea how long that takes.