3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

[InstantKarma]

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[vangs]

HEY jack, so if you cant use anything with the aptus line except for a base, then does aptus have any kind of nute that gives off the sweeet taste and extra resin, kind of like strapped, or bud candy or sugaree or sugar rush?? or is it ok to add something like that to the mix?

 

[vangs]

Yes..

Yes..

hey jack these buds came out dank as fuck.!!! ive been trying to get my buds to dry the way yours do in the last 4 pictures.. if u dont mind me asking, whats the temp and humidity in ur dry room? also any fans in the room? how long do u normally dry for? do u normally just cut the oplant at base and hang upside down or is there something you do after that?

 

[jackmayoffer]

you gonna do a double dose vrs regular dose with the fasiliator? you see a difference between recommend dose and doubling it as I'm assuming you didn't use any in the test pic comparison bed if I read correctly.

Love the stuff; just wondering what your opinion is far as doubling goes? Can't think of a more expensive bottle to go through twice as quick. Looks like it could be worth it though... temptation

We have done regular dose and double dose and we have also done no Fasilitor.. Double dose at least 3 to 5 times each week for the first 2-3 weeks will make the plants stack early big time and the plants will stay way more stacked then with out it. at 120 ml per 100 gallons first 2-3 weeks it's way better then using PGR's. JACK

This is what i love from icmag, so much grow journals and growers that each week i stumble with people with these kind of dream-gardens it makes my jaw drop !

thanks for sharing all this priceless information and photography this is off the hook!!!

the work of a true Master-Grower.

tHANKS!!

True test Jack I love it!

I wonder if you will bitch about the price of Fasilitor once you harvest ??

Great rooms, Great genetics, Great nutrition and last but not least Great grower

Seeing these pics is making me want to play around with those coco beds

You should really try COCO / Chow beds they will out perform pots any day of the week and reusing the same coco is a huge plus..JACK

JACK!

bIG uPS hOMiE!!

the inner building shell is made out of 2x4/drywall looks like? im trying to figure out the ceiling almost looks like an office building ceiling

Custom built rooms inside tilt up buildings 10,000 sq feet plus this room is 50 x 55' x 12' 6" celings the celings are insulated then dry walled then the top and bottom is sheeted with 1/2" plywood sheeting, There is unistrut running the lenth of the celings this is where the lights and trellis are hung from. The wood racks running left to right are where the ballast sit and are controled by a single remote control...Jack

Knew the chow would win out...
All those nooks and crannies holding bennies is the differnce I bet.

Those freekin cuts are seriously amazing....

killing it isnt the words...jack

Wooohooo....

T~P

Still alot of time to go but so far Chow is still winning ..

speechless


peace

Me too some times...!!

Hey Jack! Can we assume that the drip clean isn`t just sitting around for picture taking purposes? Sorry if I missed it, but I don`t recall it being part of your program. BTW, This is the best grow thread ever!

Yes we use drip clean not alway's but we use it really helps keep flush any salts and really helps when charging the beds and flushing the beds its good stuff..we use it at 1 ml per gallon.

HEY jack, so if you cant use anything with the aptus line except for a base, then does aptus have any kind of nute that gives off the sweeet taste and extra resin, kind of like strapped, or bud candy or sugaree or sugar rush?? or is it ok to add something like that to the mix?

You can add all the sugar you want its not necessary the sugar feed the bennies!!! flavor and terpin profile come down to genetics sugar won't make your nugs way more frosty or smell way better .. Its all about the Genetics.

hey jack these buds came out dank as fuck.!!! ive been trying to get my buds to dry the way yours do in the last 4 pictures.. if u dont mind me asking, whats the temp and humidity in ur dry room? also any fans in the room? how long do u normally dry for? do u normally just cut the oplant at base and hang upside down or is there something you do after that?

Custom built drying rooms temp set at 65 degrees and humidty set at 50 to 55% with a commercial de humidafier the entire plant is hung for 7 to 14 days then placed in contractor bags for 5 days where they are burped daily then the plant is trimmed dry.There are pics of the drying roomand plants hanging on here..JACK

 

[jackmayoffer]

Here are the celing pics you asked for YES4PROP215 And the Drying rooms,

 

[midwestdensies]

Awesome work. Hows that #93 she looks on point? I dont remember a flavor description of that one.. Thanks for sharing your work. Also one last question regarding your foliar testing, hows that going?

 

[fuzzy dunlop]

Jack, thoughts on replacing grow specific enzymes like ecozen with pond zyme? Had a customer at the store mention it to me, did some research, seems feasible

 

[jackmayoffer]

Awesome work. Hows that #93 she looks on point? I dont remember a flavor description of that one.. Thanks for sharing your work. Also one last question regarding your foliar testing, hows that going?

#94 super frosty like The White but smells like straight OG so if the White smelled and tasted like Lemon OG ...

Jack, thoughts on replacing grow specific enzymes like ecozen with pond zyme? Had a customer at the store mention it to me, did some research, seems feasible

OBS has been doing this for years with great results ... I brew teas and over the last year have not used any Enzyms...Not that I couldn't I just have chose not to...

 

[jackmayoffer]

Testing out some OG hoods with OG 1000 watt vert bulbs vs Adjusto Wings same strain Wifi #43 with 25 plants per 1 k getting ready to flip...

 

[vangs]

Depends on how long we veg but what we are doing is opening up the plants as much as possible so instead of up we go out in every direction. So say the cutting is 6" we would typically put the screen rite above it and as it vegged weave the main stalk through the net and as the secondary shoots started to shoot those would get weaved in the oppisite direction once the screen is 3/4 or full then flip the more plants the early flip less plants more time to fill out trellis. Hope this explains it.Then the first 3 weeks of flip every other day the plants are trained through the trellis never miss a day this is the most important time. JACK

jack, when you say weave the main stalk and the nodes to follow, you also say the first 3 weeks after flower, you trained thrw the trellis.. now by trained and weave are you impling the same thing.?

 

[LEDNewbie]

Man would I love for you to do a side by side test with some gavita's!!!

 

[OBSoul33t]

OBS has been doing this for years with great results ... I brew teas and over the last year have not used any Enzyms...Not that I couldn't I just have chose not to...

i have used septic tank enzymes with fine results , i have been told that advance sensizyme is just relabeled septic tank cleaner ..
the bottle states for eating roots that get into septic lines ..

 

[Dutch touch]

We have done regular dose and double dose and we have also done no Fasilitor.. Double dose at least 3 to 5 times each week for the first 2-3 weeks will make the plants stack early big time and the plants will stay way more stacked then with out it. at 120 ml per 100 gallons first 2-3 weeks it's way better then using PGR's. JACK

tHANKS!!
You should really try COCO / Chow beds they will out perform pots any day of the week and reusing the same coco is a huge plus..JACK


bIG uPS hOMiE!!

Custom built rooms inside tilt up buildings 10,000 sq feet plus this room is 50 x 55' x 12' 6" celings the celings are insulated then dry walled then the top and bottom is sheeted with 1/2" plywood sheeting, There is unistrut running the lenth of the celings this is where the lights and trellis are hung from. The wood racks running left to right are where the ballast sit and are controled by a single remote control...Jack

Still alot of time to go but so far Chow is still winning ..

Me too some times...!!

Yes we use drip clean not alway's but we use it really helps keep flush any salts and really helps when charging the beds and flushing the beds its good stuff..we use it at 1 ml per gallon.
You can add all the sugar you want its not necessary the sugar feed the bennies!!! flavor and terpin profile come down to genetics sugar won't make your nugs way more frosty or smell way better .. Its all about the Genetics.


Custom built drying rooms temp set at 65 degrees and humidty set at 50 to 55% with a commercial de humidafier the entire plant is hung for 7 to 14 days then placed in contractor bags for 5 days where they are burped daily then the plant is trimmed dry.There are pics of the drying roomand plants hanging on here..JACK

Hi Jack

Im going to do it !!! I will try one table. I know it will kick ass I just have to get my head around the new technique

Cheers

 

[SooperSmurph]

OBS has been doing this for years with great results ... I brew teas and over the last year have not used any Enzyms...Not that I couldn't I just have chose not to...

The presence of Enzymatic organisms in well-made teas / mixes negates the need for bottled enzymes in my experience.

 

[Mister_D]

Love all the comparison grows jack. Much for the master grow skills, and even more for all the effort you put into keeping threads. Takes a lot of work to do what you do on the level you do it at.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Here are the celing pics you asked for YES4PROP215 And the Drying rooms,

damn those are some awesome pics jack..thanks for taking the time to explain that, those rooms look very professionally built, wish i had a contractor on deck with that skill...even the drying room looks clean. we use the same technique up north just hang trellis nets haha...works good for having to dry so much at one time.

i really like the uni strut for light hangers, way easier to move and adjust the hoods versus hooks drilled into 2x4s...the attention to detail in that room is amazing, it looks like yall even painted and sealed up all the wood in the ceiling too! thinking ahead!

why are there wooden plank structures built into the ceiling like that,are those are strictly for holding the ballasts or maybe overhead storage? i would love to peek around all over the place and take notes lol....every little thing from the drippers to electrical outlets look properly in place.

peace

 

[GDK]

JACK i was wondering if you ever grow more sativa dom strains like Diesel etc, and how do you deal with them if so? Im specifically thinking about veg time and weaving tech? Im back on the Aptus train and loving it, growing 14 plants on a 3x6 table, all cheese and sssdh. Im thinking i should flip earlier and apply the weaving tech all throughout the massive stretch?..So yea..ya ever grow sativas?

Stay Safe

 

[oscar169]

Jack you are the God Father of Growing ! I watched your grow over here & decided to make the move to Heavy 16 & Aptus, Man shit is blowing up in your rooms. Have you messed around with the BioWaves at all, I’m trying out the mini but a lot of people seem to think they are snake oil.

 

[coloradokushin]

me too

me too

Hi Jack

Im going to do it !!! I will try one table. I know it will kick ass I just have to get my head around the new technique

Cheers

i am trying it too , i have tables mixed n about to veg. adj. wings ,pepcos,fanjets, h 16/aptus etc...good luck dutch and many thanks jack. you r the man!

 

[jackmayoffer]

Man would I love for you to do a side by side test with some gavita's!!!

I have a bunch of Gavita's on order just waiting for them to come in..

Love all the comparison grows jack. Much for the master grow skills, and even more for all the effort you put into keeping threads. Takes a lot of work to do what you do on the level you do it at.

Thanks Bro...

damn those are some awesome pics jack..thanks for taking the time to explain that, those rooms look very professionally built, wish i had a contractor on deck with that skill...even the drying room looks clean. we use the same technique up north just hang trellis nets haha...works good for having to dry so much at one time.

i really like the uni strut for light hangers, way easier to move and adjust the hoods versus hooks drilled into 2x4s...the attention to detail in that room is amazing, it looks like yall even painted and sealed up all the wood in the ceiling too! thinking ahead!

why are there wooden plank structures built into the ceiling like that,are those are strictly for holding the ballasts or maybe overhead storage? i would love to peek around all over the place and take notes lol....every little thing from the drippers to electrical outlets look properly in place.

peace

The wooden shelf above is for the ballast along the shelf are 240 v outlets all the ballast plug into them they are Solitek Matrix so we control the wattage and times with one remote makes life easy and there is no need for a lighting control center or timers.It also makes running the power cords super clean...Everything we do is to make it as convenient as possible all lights are labeled and the matching ballast gets a number so there is no guessing if a ballast or light goes out..

JACK i was wondering if you ever grow more sativa dom strains like Diesel etc, and how do you deal with them if so? Im specifically thinking about veg time and weaving tech? Im back on the Aptus train and loving it, growing 14 plants on a 3x6 table, all cheese and sssdh. Im thinking i should flip earlier and apply the weaving tech all throughout the massive stretch?..So yea..ya ever grow sativas?

Stay Safe

No sativas just Hybrids that stretch 3 x.... Stretch is what you want for weaving thats why I always preach every day for the first 3 weeks of flip keep weaving.. So the more a plant stretches the less you have to veg.. Its a matter of dialing in your phenos to your growing style.

Jack you are the God Father of Growing ! I watched your grow over here & decided to make the move to Heavy 16 & Aptus, Man shit is blowing up in your rooms. Have you messed around with the BioWaves at all, I’m trying out the mini but a lot of people seem to think they are snake oil.

I haven't tried a Bio wave but I would try anything that would increase yield..I would be interested if it didn't work I would want my money back...