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3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

miscbrah3284

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This ones for my Homie Smoke Trees.. This room is a test to try to sort out our OG debate and put to bed what OG's we prefer, And try to pick the top 5, There are a few Hybrids in here also just beacuse there special and just as good if not better. White Fire 43, White Fire 80, Legend OG, King Louie, Ghost OG , Tahoe OG, BIG E OG, Face OFF, South West, Triangle, Ghost OG,Valley OG,Fire OG, Forum cut GSC, A Dub, Dago Walker and a couple that will remain un named...:biggrin:

hooollllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :woohoo::woohoo:

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Yes4Prop215

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Why not just chop up the trellis and cut it away from the plants then take the plants whole as ususal? Are you reusing the 7" plastic trellis?

:joint:

true true...im lazy for my indoor room i try to just reuse the trellis. up north in the OD spot i chop up the trellis...i have a big ball of trellis netting and old stems the size of a small bus on my hillside lol.
 
fuckin kudos

fuckin kudos

jack after reading through your thread , the haters ,argumentative peeps etc..that u deal with really turned me off, but it made me appreciate your efforts even more. after all your hard work and research you come here and share your auspicious grows w us. im sure you have long days and like all of us some are better than others, yet you still maintain this incredible thread. im not acclimated w this forum or the contests but in the contest of bettering yourself and your grows , hands down u win. you are the only thread i log in to review. keep up the stellar work. you are wreckin shop!many thanks jack:plant grow:
 
mh bulbs

mh bulbs

username474 sent me a message about the mh bulbs and yes they are ultrasun 1000w 7500k m.h., side by side w eye horti there was a visable difference greatly favoring the ultrasuns.
 
You dont strike me as a quitter, thanks for documenting your hard work. You know your doing it right when people are hating. Please keep doing what you do. Thanks for sharing. Very interested in your foliar experimentation.
 

Green_science

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Yes I do its some really good stuff.. I have nothing to gain by saying this. I pay full price for it.. And these strains are not huge yielders unless they are pumped full of Phosperload and I do not grow with that shit..Im not on here to say my dick and grow is bigger then any ones.. I come on here to learn and share.. I started growing a couple years ago built a couple small rooms all by myself with stuff I learned an a couple growing sites I have always shared my experiance. I respect otheres when they tell me I could do things better to improve yields.. I am always willing to listen and learn and when I figure things out I always share and will always help fellow growers out...If this is the norm with any nutrien for week 4 then please show me how beacuse I have tried many many times...This is what happens when everything is done correct.. Aptus is some really good stuff..

I dont know what you are considering 4 weeks into flower, 4 weeks from flip or 4 weeks from from 1st sign of fructification, either way, this picture, is around 26 days FROM FLIP, NO co2, and using 600w lights, using CANNA


Absolutely no disrespect to your'e grow its GREAT, but you are over selling Aptus, you think it is capable of things that other well established nutrient lines are not, heck the plants in my pic are average yielding 10 weekers, :dunno:
Guess all that matters is that it works for you, but for the people in this thread who think, anyone saying Aptus is not the be all and end all are being disrespectfull thats not true, they just know better
 

Trend

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Jack already stated budset is directly related to strain specifics. Congrats you got a early blooming strain... I don't understand why everyone keeps posting comments regarding jack trying to sell people on aptus. Who cares what nutrition his plants receive it works in his situation. I hit jacks numbers but it takes me 21 days veg and my rooms aren't as consistent. I use aptus now and my results differ. I find my strains look behind on any given day until about week 4. But my yields were 40+% higher. Certain strains respond differentdifferently to it at aptus recommended rates atleast. Another thing is in you day 26 pics you can clearly see leaf damage and nutrient imbalance. On jacks you do not. Your room looks good but I personally am not wasting time looking online for good I'm looking for great. Start boost really can shave a few days off veg and I believe bloom boost and facilitor increase yields. More testing need to be done before I vouch on peak mass or finale.
 

Trend

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Another thing to add, jacks tips here and there helped more than aptus. I lowered co2 from life long 1500+ to 1100-1300 ppm and plants jumped. Now I'm lowering my base to 1.1 ec with same results. I didn't believe possible and never wouldve tried it til he posted it. Which when using canna and 180gal a day he saved me tons of money. I used great white before now I use caps and save a ton. You guys really need to read more between the pics instead of looking for magic in a bottle and pretty bud shots.
 

LEDNewbie

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Hey Jack. Just rereading your thread, again :biggrin: I see in a earlier post you mentioned you like foliar feeding with canna boost once a week. Do you mix it with the tea and then foliar or do you foliar on separate days? Also I'm assuming you start canna boost on day 1 of flower and stop week 4 of flower? Thanks bud :thank you:
 
aptus report

aptus report

so after 3 once a week applications of startboost,facilitator and ecozen w h16 veg a+b my plants are exibiting more lateral branching and explosive growth than i have ever seen them exibit. i breed these strains so i know there normal characteristics and they are acting like they are on pgr's. which aptus claims to put in. organic naturally occuring plant hormones that is. also they are in both coco only control group and pro mix control group. both mediums are having equally impressive results. also i have been running half the recommended dose of h16. although these nutes and boosters are pricey, i am only using half of h16 recommended dose and only one application of aptus per week thus decreasing my per crop nute price. i am impressed so far.
 

jackmayoffer

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Chow Mix vs Rock Wool Crutons Just finished week 2 flower start week 3 tomorrow This room is all White Fire #43 This is one of those Phenos that does nothing until week 5 then Bam!! It explodes so should be real good in a couple weeks but here are some pics to hold you over Chow side is still ahead the Cruton side is starting to make a push.. 1st Pic is the RockWool Cruton side in 2 gallon smart pots. 2nd Pic Chow side, 3rd pic Chow on left Rock wool on right..
 

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RespectGreen

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love the comparision and side by sides you do man....... mad I gotta come here to look at it instead of CC though.... Lol jk
 

jackmayoffer

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So bad ass. That battle royale is going to be insane. Jack ain't exaggerating when he says his wifis are as good or better than the clone only ogs. That #80 is honestly better than the raskal/fire cut IMO
Big Ups Homie!!
Hey Jack,

Do you think there is a hands down difference (comparable to the extra electric costs) between 1000 watt and 600 watt for veg? You suggested a 600 watt conversion (which is an mh I believe.)

In your opinion, is 1000 watt HPS the best for veg? Considering you use it yourself, I would believe so, but just wanted to confirm. Thank you for your time.
1000 watt all the way..
Nice new pics Jack! I see you use a lot of wall mounted fans. Been going through the dozens trying to find one that I like. Bought CAP's and Ecoplus, which I thought were junk, too loud and cheaply made. Looking at 16" Air Kings now. Looked through the thread but didnt see this one answered. Is there one you prefer? Thank You ONCE AGAIN!
Not really with the rite ac and 4 can 150s with 14" fan the wall mount fans dont make much of a difference.. But I will check out the Air kings.. JACK
:tiphat:Jack,this is by far the bestest grow thread ever,but you already know that!!! Lol.This is probably a stupid question,but how do you weave the plants thru the trellis???
There is a pic tutoriol on this thread on how we do the weaving..

hooollllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :woohoo::woohoo:
:biggrin: Thanks Bro....
true true...im lazy for my indoor room i try to just reuse the trellis. up north in the OD spot i chop up the trellis...i have a big ball of trellis netting and old stems the size of a small bus on my hillside lol.
If you can reuse the trellis then your not scrogging correctly..
Another thing to add, jacks tips here and there helped more than aptus. I lowered co2 from life long 1500+ to 1100-1300 ppm and plants jumped. Now I'm lowering my base to 1.1 ec with same results. I didn't believe possible and never wouldve tried it til he posted it. Which when using canna and 180gal a day he saved me tons of money. I used great white before now I use caps and save a ton. You guys really need to read more between the pics instead of looking for magic in a bottle and pretty bud shots.
Glad I could Help...
Hey Jack. Just rereading your thread, again I see in a earlier post you mentioned you like foliar feeding with canna boost once a week. Do you mix it with the tea and then foliar or do you foliar on separate days? Also I'm assuming you start canna boost on day 1 of flower and stop week 4 of flower? Thanks bud
These are foliar seperate on seperate days week 1-4 is about rite..

so after 3 once a week applications of startboost,facilitator and ecozen w h16 veg a+b my plants are exibiting more lateral branching and explosive growth than i have ever seen them exibit. i breed these strains so i know there normal characteristics and they are acting like they are on pgr's. which aptus claims to put in. organic naturally occuring plant hormones that is. also they are in both coco only control group and pro mix control group. both mediums are having equally impressive results. also i have been running half the recommended dose of h16. although these nutes and boosters are pricey, i am only using half of h16 recommended dose and only one application of aptus per week thus decreasing my per crop nute price. i am impressed so far.
The Fasilitor really helps with branching .. Glad it worked well for you..

love the comparision and side by sides you do man....... mad I gotta come here to look at it instead of CC though.... Lol jk
You get the inside info there that no one gets here Bro..LOL.. Way less chest beating....:biggrin:
 

LEDNewbie

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Thanks jack. Will have to grab a bottle of canna boost once I'm ready to flower in 3 weeks...

Just put my new girls in my revamped room a few days ago and already loving the "sealed room" :tiphat: was never able to maintain 70% humidity during lights on before with passive exhaust!!!! Wish I had setup my room like this from the get go!!! Have co2 set to 1500ppm this week while clones root themselves in there 2 gallon smart pots. Then next week will drop co2 to 1100ppm. Thanks for all the great info!!!!:thank you:
 

Dorky

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Nice pick on the 43 Jack. Smoked some tonight. Biggest and dense OG Nugs I have seen. Smell was not as good as the 80. Wil try the 80 tommarrow night. Anyways nice and stoney with some giggedty.

Well damn forgot my train of thought.

Its a Nice!!
 
sprinkler controler

sprinkler controler

jack if i run the octbubler/fan jet combo on 4 4x8s do i need the sprinkler controler if i run a big enough pump to fertigate all 4 4x8s at one time. do u think a 3/4 hp pump will be enough pressure for the 4 4x8s or can i get away w a smaller pump.
 

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