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3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

Twisted pleasur

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Jack please tell us about fascilitor. Do you use it everyday or
1 day per week? Do you double the dose in early flower? When do you
stop using it?
Cheers

If u read back. He covers all of this.

He follows the aptus feed chart to the T and gives the aptus with base Once a week.

Hope this helps.

He treid everyway and found this to give best results.

T~P
 

jackmayoffer

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im lovin chow mix...hit my best yields with it ever but still not as close as yours...anyways im running aptus fasilitor + startboost with GH 2 part and heavy 16 prime @ week 2 flower, gonna start adding PK boost soon....so far im loving the results, fast bud onset and healthy green plants all around.

what else you use from heavy 16...i got a bottle of "fire" to play with too might start adding it soon...
im only running base and the Aptus line You should only run Aptus with base . If your running just Fasilitor then you could use other nutriens..But my results are just base and Aptus line ..JACK
Hey Jack what bulbs and ballasts do you use. I've had good results with Quantum ballasts and Eye Hort super HPS bulbs. This run I used Digilux bulbs as they are supposed to work well with the Quantums but I walked into the room tonight and one was burnt out after only 2.5 months of use.
I use Quantum, Harvest Pro, Solistek with built in timer, I use them all Just depends on my power and my build out I really like the Solistek the built in timer make life easy.JACK

I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but is this stuff the same as Aptus-holland ? Feeding scheduel looks very identicle, and a crown for logo as well, just not the exact same.

I want to know, since I'm not keen to ordering stuff from us to a eu country, customs and all, and if this stuff is expensive alrdy my customs will charge me like 25% extra.

http://www.aptus-holland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/nutrient_schedule_UK_web.pdf
http://aptus-usa.com/assets/docs/AptusExtremeFeedSchedule.pdf

Looks very alike.
Aptus started in Holland..
Jack,so on the days you feed the aptus and caps you dont feed any base nutes at all?If so are you spacing out the caps and aptus feedings or are you running them on back-2-back days??
Its all been covered a few times..

Hey Jack, when you say ten of your 4x8 tables takes 100 gallons of water per feeding, are you talking per day or are you feeding 200 gallons per day since you feed twice in a day??

If the 100 gallons does count for both feeding are you making just one batch of nutes for both feeding? Or are you making a fresh batch for each feeding?

I also read a comment where you said you let your PH swing from 5.5 to 6.0??? How can PH swing when your making a new batch of nutes everyday and using it all up? Not quite understanding that?

100 gallons a day either for 1 watering at 1 minute or 2 waterings at 30 min the amount of water I use will not apply to you every set up is different and you will use way less water. some beds are deeper then others it comes down to having the rite amount of run off ..We never water at a set PH we let our PH swing from 5.5 to 6.2 in COCO When we flush the beds for the next run we PH at 5.8.
:thank you:

Bro read back a few pages explains everything. He tells exactly what days he does what.

No offence to you personaly,but the same questions over and over. Its the reason most guys like jack shut down and great threads like this die.

Im planing on changing what Im doing. Taken the huge leap from my reused soil to coco.

Scared cause coco is way less forgiving with watering.

Going to do a test run on one of my systems with canna base like the idea of the base being the same. Cause with what Im currently doing the soils transition back to veg. Is a little off Its touchy with a mag. Difficentcy with my new transplants.
I recently switched to advanced PH perfect sensi a&b with b52, vodoo juice, and senizym. Also some lime it has helped but the def. They develop Is not completely gone.

They grow right out of it if flower.
But I like perfection. Anyway got high hopes.

Wondering with reuesing the coco if you have seen anything like this?

Wondering if u suppliment anything anything special durring in veg? Or if you just do canna base and the couple aptus additives and thats it?

Also is there anyway you can show your training style? I love the way your girls are just are straight up colas.

What is your ave. Head count on a single girl? From those base pics looks crazy.

I think my training is currently lax I do single cola style and I LST. Im going to start doing the scrog and that alone will probobly kick up yeild. Anyway.

Thanks Jack.



T~P
The training has been covered with pics showing how we weave the plants, As far as going from flower to veg when we replant and flush the coco we just add base nutes and Cal mag at a double dose of cal mag one time the tea will give them the extra boost they need once you get them going and Foliar feeding with the tea will really get them going..
Jack please tell us about fascilitor. Do you use it everyday or
1 day per week? Do you double the dose in early flower? When do you
stop using it?
Cheers
I have covered this 100 times I use Aptus 1 time a week and double the dose will not stop stretch but it will make your plants bush out loke crazy, I use the whole Aptus line once a week ..JACK
 

jackmayoffer

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Back to the good stuff These are just stopping there stretch 2 rooms of mostly OG and White Fire.. EC0.8 feeding Aptus once aweek, caps tea once a week, and sea green with base once a week, just base on the rest.
 

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jackmayoffer

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A couple shots rite before Harvest... this was the 40 light room with CANA Coco as base.
 

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I can allmost smell it lol

great skills jack thanks for sharing everything with us

just took the plunge myself without this thread I wouldn't have bothered

peace
 

LEDNewbie

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your rooms are CRAZY Jack!!!:tiphat: Blows me away everytime I see your pics!!!


So you say sometimes you water once a day at 1 minute and sometimes you water twice a day at 30 seconds each time. I'm assuming when you water once a day your getting 5-10% run off. But when you water twice a day at 30 second periods you don't get any run off?
 

nomaad

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Well in the exact same room using everything the same except base Heavy 16 Came in at 20 k at #48 and Cana Coco as base came in at #47 SO They where pretty close plants dont stretch as much with CANA dont know why? The thing about Heavy16 in beds it takes alot longer to flush out . When we transition from flower back to veg. With Cana we use the same base in veg and flower so it makes life way easier but we use twice as much base with CANA so its pretty close..

I'm still very interested to see you try H&G and compare it to the rest. My best run (2.5 per light with my best strain) was the straight H&G program with some call mag and bennies.

I was thinking about giving H16 a try on this run, but what you say regarding stretch compared to Canna, I am more inclined to try Canna. Overstretch resulting in bad light to much of the canopy has been the main factor seperating my best and worst results.

Thanks for the info.
 
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Hazyfontazy

I'm still very interested to see you try H&G and compare it to the rest. My best run (2.5 per light with my best strain) was the straight H&G program with some call mag and bennies.

I was thinking about giving H16 a try on this run, but what you say regarding stretch compared to Canna, I am more inclined to try Canna. Overstretch resulting in bad light to much of the canopy has been the main factor seperating my best and worst results.

Thanks for the info.

the chemist who developed canna coco moved to h&g so i believe
 

vaporize13

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hey JackMayOffer do you think having air cooled hoods with the glass in them can actually make a difference in your overall yield.
 

delae632

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Hey Jack what do you do when it's time for a Fire Department inspection? Do they still do them annually or have they cut back on that due to budget cuts? Also I was wondering if the landlord is cool with what you do.

Seems pretty tricky to run a commercial spot so I'm curious about the logistics.

D
 

dror

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hello jack i wonder what size of co2 generator u r using 8 burners or 12 ? and how do u really calculate the right size for your room ?

thx.
 
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