3 weeks in with Aptus shits blowing up around here..

[D916]

Caravaggio what kind of strains do you run?

 

[Caravaggio]

Caravaggio what kind of strains do you run?

blue dream and blue widow is what we have been growing mostly lately.

 

[Coconutz]

Well i'll go ahead and call bullshit on that one. imidicloprid kills fungus gnat larvae as well as root aphids.

Im sure it does...
Youve missed the point!
There are far less nasty ways to kill gnats than using a fucking poison like imid at flip!
Thats retarded!
WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Caravaggio]

Im sure it does...
Youve missed the point!
There are far less nasty ways to kill gnats than using a fucking poison like imid at flip!
Thats retarded!
WTF is wrong with you?

Dude. You're insane if you think that the super low dose Imid used at flip is going to inn any way affect the final crop.

 

[Coconutz]

In the absence of light, the longest half-life of imidacloprid was 229 days in field studies and 997 days in laboratory studies (Miles, Inc., 1992; Mobay Chemical Corp., 1992). This persistence in soil in the absence of light makes imidacloprid suitable for seed treatment and incorporated soil application because it allows continual availability for uptake by roots (Mullins, 1993). Thus, imidacloprid can persist in soil depending on soil type, pH, use of organic fertilizers, and presence or absence of ground cover.

Source: http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pub...clprdfate2.pdf

How long does it last in an indoor low light garden?
Please link your sources

 

[StoneyK]

im wondering if this thread has had so many people order samples they r behind at aptus.
iv been tryin to get a sample pack forever an they never send em. sent in 6 requests since last october :/

 

[Rolldaddy]

Very impressive op

 

[Caravaggio]

In the absence of light, the longest half-life of imidacloprid was 229 days in field studies and 997 days in laboratory studies (Miles, Inc., 1992; Mobay Chemical Corp., 1992). This persistence in soil in the absence of light makes imidacloprid suitable for seed treatment and incorporated soil application because it allows continual availability for uptake by roots (Mullins, 1993). Thus, imidacloprid can persist in soil depending on soil type, pH, use of organic fertilizers, and presence or absence of ground cover.

Source: http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pub...clprdfate2.pdf

How long does it last in an indoor low light garden?
Please link your sources

All i said it wasn't going to affect the final product. Period. And it doesn't.

 

[Coconutz]

In the absence of light, the longest half-life of imidacloprid was 229 days in field studies and 997 days in laboratory studies (Miles, Inc., 1992; Mobay Chemical Corp., 1992). This persistence in soil in the absence of light makes imidacloprid suitable for seed treatment and incorporated soil application because it allows continual availability for uptake by roots (Mullins, 1993). Thus, imidacloprid can persist in soil depending on soil type, pH, use of organic fertilizers, and presence or absence of ground cover.

Source: http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pub...clprdfate2.pdf

How long does it last in an indoor low light garden?
Please link your sources

All i said it wasn't going to affect the final product. Period. And it doesn't.

Read that again dude
Anyway... My point was there are much safer options for gnats!
No reason to break out nuclear warfare on gnats!
Thats like using a grenade to open a beer

 

[Caravaggio]

Read that again dude
Anyway... My point was there are much safer options for gnats!
No reason to break out nuclear warfare on gnats!
Thats like using a grenade to open a beer

I use the little Yellow Cards for gnats, my original use of Imd was for root aphids. Then I just started adding in .5ml gal of a low dose Imid+Nutrient around day 1 of flower. Never have had aphids or gnats since.

What are you recommending for Gnats?

 

[Bmac1]

I got rid of gnats on my last run by just topping off the pots with sand.

 

[Coconutz]

I Use BT as a preventative before it gets out of hand. I mix it into my coco.
I also dont keep the top layer of my coco soaking wet.
If those bastards still take over theres always aza/neem, sm90, caps etc, etc.
Even aptus has a natural killer of somesort... at least in EU
Gnats arent listed on the imid because it would be crazy to use such a poison for gnats!
Im sure it will kill just about anything though!

 

[ECtraveler]

All i said it wasn't going to affect the final product. Period. And it doesn't.

I take it you've never had your flowers tested for pesticides because my experience tells me different. I'm hyper sensitive to chemicals and can most definitely tell when someone has been rolling dirty. The better option would be more diligent in your regiment so the need for last resort remedies never comes into play.

 

[Caravaggio]

I take it you've never had your flowers tested for pesticides because my experience tells me different. I'm hyper sensitive to chemicals and can most definitely tell when someone has been rolling dirty. The better option would be more diligent in your regiment so the need for last resort remedies never comes into play.

Funny you ask. I just had 3 strains tested because of this thread and indeed they all came back with ZERO pesicides present.

 

[mandingus]

Once or twice a week start at 1 ml end at 2 ml

Week 2-3 to week 7-8 depending on flowering time

What pk booster would you recommend? I was told by my shop that I would need a high pk booster like moab or something in addition to resinator.
Also don't want to ruin my coco as I reuse it. I heard shooting powder would ruin coco. Don't know why.

 

[GreenintheThumb]

No man, I only use Rock Resinator and I'm good. Check my pics. There's no point IME.

 

[otis33]

What pk booster would you recommend? I was told by my shop that I would need a high pk booster like moab or something in addition to resinator.
Also don't want to ruin my coco as I reuse it. I heard shooting powder would ruin coco. Don't know why.

sp won't ruin your coco, you just want to flush it well before rreusing it in order to get all the excess salts.

 

[jenny41711]

Gnatrol works excellent against fungus gnats. Plus, it's completely organic and doesn't harm the plants or linger around like a system would. It's a specific strain of BT, which is a beneficial bacteria that targets anything larvae-like. It won't kill the adults, but the adults don't harm the plants and they die of old age within days anyway. I usually apply it once per week for two weeks at the first sign of gnats. After that I apply once per month and I never see more than the occasional gnat or two flying around towards the end of the month. I also use OGBIOWAR's tea every week and i definitely think it helps but unless I use large amounts of the tea it seems like I still need that extra "kick" from the Gnatrol to fully eradicate them.

 

[Coconutz]

OGbiowar contains BT
Just not enough to really do anything
Much like with the rest of the ingredients!

 

[mandingus]

No man, I only use Rock Resinator and I'm good. Check my pics. There's no point IME.

Thanks for the tip!