Careful with that... wood is a great spot for mold to grow. Could find yourself with powdery mildew or mold blooms very easily.
Better and cheaper to use cinder blocks imho.
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Careful with that... wood is a great spot for mold to grow. Could find yourself with powdery mildew or mold blooms very easily.
Better and cheaper to use cinder blocks imho.
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This thread still alive.... ?
Prepare the COCO before the run:
60% COCO 40% Hydroton.
For a 4x4 table use 5 bags of COCO and 2 two bags of hydroton.
Charge the coco with a ph of 5.8 and a EC of 550 PPM (scale 0,7). Veg base and Cal/Mag.
After the harvest, use a trident hand pick and remove a maximum of te roots from the bottom to the top. Once the coco is clean,
water it with cannazym full doze and 500ppm Veg base nutes.
Veg:
For 15 to 25 clones, in 4x4 coco beds, under 1000w Adjus a Wing, or gavitas.
14 days of Veg before the flip.
Once the roots have shows up, they get a 300ppm Veg base nutreient watering. Then increase the Veg ppm to 550 once the roots have established. When the clones are fully rooted increase slowly to 800 ppm, ph 5.8 to 6.2, 6 is the sweet spot.
Once transplanted into the coco, the clones were watered once every 2/3 days, until the roots are well established. Top the plants in veg two times, or more. Once after 7 days of Veg and once before the flip. The goal s to have a maximum of tops bud. Druing the 2 weeks of Veg, the temperature is kept at 78 to 80, RH is at 60 to 70, CO2 is between 800 to 1200 max.
Aptus Startboost and Facilitor are used in Veg. You can use it every other watering during Veg. Facilitor doses can be doubled in Veg to get plant to stack up more and increase side branches growth.
Temperature: 78 to 80 during the first 3 weeks of Veg.
RH: 60/65% during the first 3 weeks of Veg.
EC: Start with a EC at 350 as soon as you are seeing roots, then at 500, then 700/800. Depending on plant developement increase your ppm slowly.
Nutrients: Aptus once a week. When using base Veg only, don't add Cal/mag (follow the chart). Once a week add some Cap Tea, as watering and once a week as foliar.
CO2: from 800 to 1200 PPM during first 3 weeks of Veg.
Nutrients program from: the first week of Veg to the thrid week:
Monday: Veg Base nutrients
Tuesday:
Wednesday: Caps Tea*
Thursday:
Friday: Veg base + Aptus Veg + Facilitor (regulator)
Saturday:
Sunday: Veg base + (or) foliar caps tea.
* Foliar tea is dilued in water at 1/4 rate, don't adjust ph.
* When using Aptus cut the base by half.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COCO pre-bloom:
(3 first weeks of bloom)
The first 3 weks of bloom scrog and weave your plants using the screen strings. The goal is to open up the plant in the center. Pull the side branches in the oposite direction to cover the screen.
During the week 2 and 3 of pre-bloom, remove the bottom branches that won't get lights and won't produce top buds.
You can double the dose of facilitor (regulator) during the pre-bloom to get the plants to stack up and fleshy.
To avoid plants from stretching to much, keep the temperature differences between light on and light off at a maximum of 5 degrees.
Temperature: 78 to 80
RH: 60/65%
EC: 1000 PPM (0.7*)
Nutriments: Aptus twice a week. When using base only don't add Cal.Mag (follow the chart). Once a week, water with Caps Tea, use it as foliar too. Use canna boost* as foliar too, once a week until the 4th week.
CO2: 1000 to 1200 PPM.
Nutrients program from: the first week of bloom to the thrid week:
Monday: Veg Base + Facilitor (double dose)
Tuesday: Caps Tea*
Wednesday: Veg Base + Facilitor (double dose)
Thursday: Veg Base + Aptus Veg + Facilitor (double dose)
Friday: Veg Base
Saturday: Veg Base* + Aptus Veg + Facilitor (double dose)
Sunday: Veg Base + (or) Caps Tea as foliar (or Canna Boost)
* Foliar tea is dilued in water at 1/4 rate, don't adjust ph. Canna boost 6ml for 1 gallon.
* When using Aptus cut the base by half.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bloom:
From the 4th week stop he foliar feeding. From the 5th week, start pull out some of the fan leaves that blocks light. Do this until the end, just leave the ones of the tops.
Temperature: 75 or bellow.
RH: 50%
EC: 1.2 (top @ 1.5/2)
Nutriments: Aptus twice a week. When using base only don't add Cal/mag (follow the chart). Once week water with Caps Tea.
CO2: 1000 to 1200 PPM.
Nutrients program from: the third week of bloom to flush:
Monday: Bloom Base
Tuesday: Caps Tea*
Wednesday: Bloom Base
Thursday: Bloom Base* + Aptus Bloom + Regulator
Friday: Bloom Base
Saturday: Bloom Base* + Aptus Bloom + Regulator
Sunday: Bloom Base
* Foliar tea is dilued in water at 1/4 rate, don't adjust ph.
* When using Aptus cut the base by half.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COCO Flush:
Using reverse osmosis water, it is best to lower the EC gradually to flush safely. in the case of a nine weeks strain, reduces the EC to 350ppm, from the 6th week with Bloom Base solution. During the 7th week, gradually reduced the ppm, keep reducing at the 8th week, at the 9th weeks u should flush with pure water only.
If you use tap water then it is best to rinse directly with pure water according to the EC of the water. With a EC of 300, rinsed with water only.
Last week, allow the coconut to dry, it prevents over-watering, in some cases if the coconut is still wet don't water. This will help dry plants faster.
The last two weeks decrease the CO2 to 300ppm or turn it off.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Caps Tea:
Here is a tea recipe copied from ICMAG, with my own twist, that will put your plants in to a happy state of being.
1) Add 4 TABLESPOONS of each capulators root and foliar in a 5 gallon bucket.
2) Fill 5 gallon bucket with 4 gallons of RO or distilled water.
Add 50 - 100 ml of liquid carboload, sweet raw, hibrix, regular black strap molasses, or any other liquid carb product of your choice.
3) Fill a stocking with a couple handfuls of earth worm castings. Tie this off and let it float in the solution like a tea bag.
4) Bubble with an air stone and air pump for 24 hours.
Strain again with a cheesecloth, or let settle and take off the top.
5) Dilute 1-2 cups per 10 gallons and add to the reservoir, or use as an individual drench. This works GREAT in a turbo or easy cloner, or even on your cuttings in a dome.
Refrigerate for up to 10 days so you can use it the following week.
(EDIT: aeroic bacteria would do best if the tea is used right away. Just because it CAN be refrigerated up to a week doesn't necessarily mean you are getting the most bang for your buck that way.
You can always cut back on material to make just a gallon, or even a half gallon so that you don't waste. Its really easy to make... the hardest part about it is waiting for it to be done.
Now, the bacteria will die off no matter what if there is nothing for them to eat, so really you are killing bacteria all the time in a hydro setting, where there is no soil that is "breaking down"
These packs are a mix of a shitload of bacteria, but they rarely all go to work right away when they are applied. some make it and some don't, it depends on their environment and what they have to process. )
Additional goodies:
Add a couple of handfuls of alfalfa meal in with the earth worm castings, to provide a great boost to plant vitality.
Apply tea once a week or every other week for best results during veg and flower
Can be used up to flush.
This will deter all soil borne pathogens and insects, if using the foliar pack. I have successfully used this tea to destroy a fungus gnat population and keep my roots white and pythium free. There are other farmers here that have used it to kill their root aphid infestations.
I have found brewing straight tea and not diluting it will kill fungus knats .Plus you cant over do it the more the better...Your plants will be so green and healthy and Your roots willl be all white and fuzzy..I will never grow with out this stuff...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tips and Tricks:
Keep in mind that there's no exactitude, look at your plants see how they react, take notes on a book. Don't water every day if your plants ain't asking for it.
During the 6th week of bloom you will certainly need to clone the mother plants for the next session. The clones will have plenty of time to be rooted before being launched in veg.
On a variety of 9 weeks, stopped using facilitor from the 6th week.
Cleaning the sprinkler system can be done with drip clean.
Watering system:
Octa Bubble PEPCO
Top Hat Throw Limiter from Bowsmith
SP series Fan-Jet Microsprinkler Head Riser SP-1 Spike 6" from Bowsmith
sprinkler flow control valve
Liner Smart Pot 4x4 or 4x8
Trellis netting
Link:
Jack's watering system tutorial
Did my home work
I posted this here to avoid people coming back with same questions over and over again. So please do the whole community a favor and read before posting. It's all there. Peace.
Thanks for taking the time LAMBS-BREAD.
Hi Gettogro, my buddy got a couple of the Gavita units, he has managed to adapt the reflector. He has some how wired the Gavita double ended lamp holder to a large adjustawing, I don't know why?? It works but it flikkers a lot LOL. If I put any 2 600w bulb ballast combo on that reflector over the same area it would in theory normally out yield a normal Gavita horizontally.
You could try extend the lighting connection on those Gavitas and hang the double ended bulbs bare it the current fixtures that are designed to do it. It may work, you could put them wall mounted between 2 trees at the least!
username474
Active member
Never unsubbed. I have almost stopped logging on at ICMAG though.
Same here..... I hope all is well jack. Your grows defiantly inspired me to step it up. When is class going to be back in session? Only damn class I didn't skip.
masshole61
Member
If you worked your way through a timeline of his threads ( google his name) you will actually see how jack evolved as a grower through constant experimentation. All the while sharing knowledge (free) with all who were interested til a couple of assholes who wanted to butt heads with him when all he was doing was chronicling his experiences for all to see. I don't blame him for leaving . All I know s more than a few dudes switch to coco beds from watching how well he did.
I'd love to see what he's up to now.
Either way I wish him well .
I'd love to see what he's up to now.
Either way I wish him well .
This thread still alive.... ?
Holy shit! The legend is back!!!
This thread still alive.... ?
Prepare the COCO before the run:
60% COCO 40% Hydroton.
For a 4x4 table use 5 bags of COCO and 2 two bags of hydroton.
Charge the coco with a ph of 5.8 and a EC of 550 PPM (scale 0,7). Veg base and Cal/Mag.
After the harvest, use a trident hand pick and remove a maximum of te roots from the bottom to the top. Once the coco is clean,
water it with cannazym full doze and 500ppm Veg base nutes.
Veg:
For 15 to 25 clones, in 4x4 coco beds, under 1000w Adjus a Wing, or gavitas.
14 days of Veg before the flip.
Once the roots have shows up, they get a 300ppm Veg base nutreient watering. Then increase the Veg ppm to 550 once the roots have established. When the clones are fully rooted increase slowly to 800 ppm, ph 5.8 to 6.2, 6 is the sweet spot.
Once transplanted into the coco, the clones were watered once every 2/3 days, until the roots are well established. Top the plants in veg two times, or more. Once after 7 days of Veg and once before the flip. The goal s to have a maximum of tops bud. Druing the 2 weeks of Veg, the temperature is kept at 78 to 80, RH is at 60 to 70, CO2 is between 800 to 1200 max.
Aptus Startboost and Facilitor are used in Veg. You can use it every other watering during Veg. Facilitor doses can be doubled in Veg to get plant to stack up more and increase side branches growth.
Temperature: 78 to 80 during the first 3 weeks of Veg.
RH: 60/65% during the first 3 weeks of Veg.
EC: Start with a EC at 350 as soon as you are seeing roots, then at 500, then 700/800. Depending on plant developement increase your ppm slowly.
Nutrients: Aptus once a week. When using base Veg only, don't add Cal/mag (follow the chart). Once a week add some Cap Tea, as watering and once a week as foliar.
CO2: from 800 to 1200 PPM during first 3 weeks of Veg.
Nutrients program from: the first week of Veg to the thrid week:
Monday: Veg Base nutrients
Tuesday:
Wednesday: Caps Tea*
Thursday:
Friday: Veg base + Aptus Veg + Facilitor (regulator)
Saturday:
Sunday: Veg base + (or) foliar caps tea.
* Foliar tea is dilued in water at 1/4 rate, don't adjust ph.
* When using Aptus cut the base by half.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COCO pre-bloom:
(3 first weeks of bloom)
The first 3 weks of bloom scrog and weave your plants using the screen strings. The goal is to open up the plant in the center. Pull the side branches in the oposite direction to cover the screen.
During the week 2 and 3 of pre-bloom, remove the bottom branches that won't get lights and won't produce top buds.
You can double the dose of facilitor (regulator) during the pre-bloom to get the plants to stack up and fleshy.
To avoid plants from stretching to much, keep the temperature differences between light on and light off at a maximum of 5 degrees.
Temperature: 78 to 80
RH: 60/65%
EC: 1000 PPM (0.7*)
Nutriments: Aptus twice a week. When using base only don't add Cal.Mag (follow the chart). Once a week, water with Caps Tea, use it as foliar too. Use canna boost* as foliar too, once a week until the 4th week.
CO2: 1000 to 1200 PPM.
Nutrients program from: the first week of bloom to the thrid week:
Monday: Veg Base + Facilitor (double dose)
Tuesday: Caps Tea*
Wednesday: Veg Base + Facilitor (double dose)
Thursday: Veg Base + Aptus Veg + Facilitor (double dose)
Friday: Veg Base
Saturday: Veg Base* + Aptus Veg + Facilitor (double dose)
Sunday: Veg Base + (or) Caps Tea as foliar (or Canna Boost)
* Foliar tea is dilued in water at 1/4 rate, don't adjust ph. Canna boost 6ml for 1 gallon.
* When using Aptus cut the base by half.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bloom:
From the 4th week stop he foliar feeding. From the 5th week, start pull out some of the fan leaves that blocks light. Do this until the end, just leave the ones of the tops.
Temperature: 75 or bellow.
RH: 50%
EC: 1.2 (top @ 1.5/2)
Nutriments: Aptus twice a week. When using base only don't add Cal/mag (follow the chart). Once week water with Caps Tea.
CO2: 1000 to 1200 PPM.
Nutrients program from: the third week of bloom to flush:
Monday: Bloom Base
Tuesday: Caps Tea*
Wednesday: Bloom Base
Thursday: Bloom Base* + Aptus Bloom + Regulator
Friday: Bloom Base
Saturday: Bloom Base* + Aptus Bloom + Regulator
Sunday: Bloom Base
* Foliar tea is dilued in water at 1/4 rate, don't adjust ph.
* When using Aptus cut the base by half.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COCO Flush:
Using reverse osmosis water, it is best to lower the EC gradually to flush safely. in the case of a nine weeks strain, reduces the EC to 350ppm, from the 6th week with Bloom Base solution. During the 7th week, gradually reduced the ppm, keep reducing at the 8th week, at the 9th weeks u should flush with pure water only.
If you use tap water then it is best to rinse directly with pure water according to the EC of the water. With a EC of 300, rinsed with water only.
Last week, allow the coconut to dry, it prevents over-watering, in some cases if the coconut is still wet don't water. This will help dry plants faster.
The last two weeks decrease the CO2 to 300ppm or turn it off.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Caps Tea:
Here is a tea recipe copied from ICMAG, with my own twist, that will put your plants in to a happy state of being.
1) Add 4 TABLESPOONS of each capulators root and foliar in a 5 gallon bucket.
2) Fill 5 gallon bucket with 4 gallons of RO or distilled water.
Add 50 - 100 ml of liquid carboload, sweet raw, hibrix, regular black strap molasses, or any other liquid carb product of your choice.
3) Fill a stocking with a couple handfuls of earth worm castings. Tie this off and let it float in the solution like a tea bag.
4) Bubble with an air stone and air pump for 24 hours.
Strain again with a cheesecloth, or let settle and take off the top.
5) Dilute 1-2 cups per 10 gallons and add to the reservoir, or use as an individual drench. This works GREAT in a turbo or easy cloner, or even on your cuttings in a dome.
Refrigerate for up to 10 days so you can use it the following week.
(EDIT: aeroic bacteria would do best if the tea is used right away. Just because it CAN be refrigerated up to a week doesn't necessarily mean you are getting the most bang for your buck that way.
You can always cut back on material to make just a gallon, or even a half gallon so that you don't waste. Its really easy to make... the hardest part about it is waiting for it to be done.
Now, the bacteria will die off no matter what if there is nothing for them to eat, so really you are killing bacteria all the time in a hydro setting, where there is no soil that is "breaking down"
These packs are a mix of a shitload of bacteria, but they rarely all go to work right away when they are applied. some make it and some don't, it depends on their environment and what they have to process. )
Additional goodies:
Add a couple of handfuls of alfalfa meal in with the earth worm castings, to provide a great boost to plant vitality.
Apply tea once a week or every other week for best results during veg and flower
Can be used up to flush.
This will deter all soil borne pathogens and insects, if using the foliar pack. I have successfully used this tea to destroy a fungus gnat population and keep my roots white and pythium free. There are other farmers here that have used it to kill their root aphid infestations.
I have found brewing straight tea and not diluting it will kill fungus knats .Plus you cant over do it the more the better...Your plants will be so green and healthy and Your roots willl be all white and fuzzy..I will never grow with out this stuff...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tips and Tricks:
Keep in mind that there's no exactitude, look at your plants see how they react, take notes on a book. Don't water every day if your plants ain't asking for it.
During the 6th week of bloom you will certainly need to clone the mother plants for the next session. The clones will have plenty of time to be rooted before being launched in veg.
On a variety of 9 weeks, stopped using facilitor from the 6th week.
Cleaning the sprinkler system can be done with drip clean.
Watering system:
Octa Bubble PEPCO
Top Hat Throw Limiter from Bowsmith
SP series Fan-Jet Microsprinkler Head Riser SP-1 Spike 6" from Bowsmith
sprinkler flow control valve
Liner Smart Pot 4x4 or 4x8
Trellis netting
Link:
Jack's watering system tutorial
Did my home work
I posted this here to avoid people coming back with same questions over and over again. So please do the whole community a favor and read before posting. It's all there. Peace.
Dude. That is bad ass. Thanks!!!
Caravaggio
Member
Prepare the COCO before the run:
Link:
Jack's watering system tutorial
Did my home work
I posted this here to avoid people coming back with same questions over and over again. So please do the whole community a favor and read before posting. It's all there. Peace.
can u fix this link please?
copy and paste to google this:
octa-bubblers-drain-to-waist-diy-guide
first link is yours
buddhalovesme
New member
Jack ever though about writing a step by step growing book for dummies with pics? Seeing what your doing and I'm very impressed. I'm new to the community but been growing 3 years now. Haven't seen anyone do what your doing... keep up the amazing work
