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hilbie

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Grow™ Benefits:

* Essential elements are not derived from harmful chemicals such as urea.
* Eliminates exposure to toxic heavy metals which often contaminate conventional chemical fertilizers.
* Enhanced uptake and utilization of plant nutrients.
* Increased pathogen resistance and hardiness.
* Increases plant’s metabolic rate.
* Larger fruits, vegetables and flowers.

Derived From:

Fish Meal, Composted Poultry Litter, Seaweed (Ascophyllum Nodosum), Rock Phosphate, Magnesium Carbonate, Calcium Carbonate, Ammonium Nitrate, Potassium Nitrate, Calcium Nitrate, Potassium Phosphate, Magnesium Sulfate.

Also Contains Non-Plant Food Ingredient:

0.01% Humic acid derived from leonardite, agrimineral 72, sodium silicate.



Bloom™ Benefits:

* Essential elements are not derived from harmful chemicals such as urea.
* Eliminates exposure to toxic heavy metals which often contaminate conventional chemical fertilizers.
* Enhanced uptake and utilization of plant nutrients.
* Increased pathogen resistance and hardiness.
* Increases plant’s metabolic rates and yields.
* Larger fruits, vegetables and flowers.

Derived From:

Fish Meal, Composted Poultry Litter, Seaweed (Ascophyllum Nodosum), Rock Phosphate, Magnesium Carbonate, Calcium Carbonate, Ammonium Nitrate, Potassium Nitrate, Calcium Nitrate, Potassium Phosphate, Magnesium Sulfate.

Also Contains Non-Plant Food Ingredient:

0.01% Humic acid derived from leonardite, agrimineral 72, sodium silicate.




Boost™ Benefits:

* Ensures optimal plant growth during every plant phase.
* Protects plants from transplant shock.
* Promotes healthy rooting of cuttings.
* Increases plant’s metabolic rates.
* Larger fruits, vegetables and flowers with higher yields.

Derived From:

Kelp seaweed extract.

Also Contains Non-Plant Food Ingredient:

0.01% Humic Acid derived from Leonardite, 0.01% Yucca extract.




Calplex™ Benefits:

* May increase photosynthetic capacity and chlorophyll synthesis.
* May increase climatic stress resistance to excessive heat or freezing.
* May aid in cell division and metabolism for crop production.
* May increase stomata opening and increase membrane permeability.
* Strengthens cell walls.

Calcium plays an essential role in plant blossom development and overall plant health. Key functions of calcium include cell production and growth, as well as aiding fruit yield, including tomatoes and peppers. Mild calcium deficiencies can appear as dark green foliage and very stunted growth, normally occurring first in new growth. Severe deficiencies can turn new growth into shriveled, off-colored, dead leaves before they have a chance to develop. Since most plants can absorb calcium at very high rates, you may need to replenish their supply from time to time with a calcium supplement like Calplex.

Humega™ is a biologically enhanced product that may increase the availability of micronutrients and buffer salts. Grow media that has been inoculated with Humega contains a large population of beneficial microorganisms which protect plant root systems from a variety of soil pathogens. The microorganisms process organic matter, and release nutrients to plant roots. Microorganisms are essential to the process of releasing bound elemental compounds.

Humega promotes soil and soilless substrate aeration and water penetration. Certain enzymes have been added to Humega, to help increase the rate of nutrient absorption and reduce nitrogen through the soil profile. Nutrients are stabilized in the Rhizosphere where they remain available over a longer period of time.

Humega is a liquid humus--a combination of natural, organic plant acids, including humic acid, in enzymatic microbial solution. In addition to being a soil conditioner with humic acid and enzymes, Humega also contains active microbial inoculants that enhance the populations of beneficial soil microorganisms.

Humega contains humic substances that enhance the rate of photosynthesis in plants. Carbon and humus build the soil profile, and balance soilless substrates by neutralizing pH and increasing the cation exchange capacity (CEC). Mixing Humega with other fertilizers may increase their absorption rate by attaching them to carbon molecules which then helps increase their absorption rate.

Humega can be used for certified organic crop production as defined by the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI).

* This report is meant to illustrate that Humega is not only a soil conditioner with humic acid and enzymes, but it also has active microbial inoculants that enhance the populations of beneficial soil microorganisms. It may be used in Organic Gardening applications, as defined by the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI).
SOIL FUNCTIONAL GROUP IDEAL CFUs PER GDW HUMEGA CFUs PER LITER*
Heterotrophic Bacteria 10 million to 1 billion 6.2 x 108 cfu/ml
Anaerobic Bacteria 1 to 10 million 4 x 106 cfu/ml
Yeasts and Molds 500 K to 5 million 1.3 x 106 cfu/ml
Actinomycetes 100 K to 1 million 1 x 105 cfu/ml
Pseudomonads 1000 to 1 million 1 x 106 cfu/ml
Nitrogen Fixing Bacteria 1 million 1 x 106 cfu/ml



Huvega™ Benefits:

* Releases minerals in soil
* Protects plants from stresses
* Stimulates antibiotic protection
* Reduces wilting
* Increases DNA metabolism
* Promotes high crop yields

The nature of ionic minerals

Ionic minerals are low molecular weight humic substances with the unusual ability to provide multiple natural chemical reactions in the soil. Ionic minerals have high oxygen-hydrogen levels which have unique and positive influences on plant metabolic processes.

The ionic minerals in Huvega have an extremely high cation exchange capacity (between 500 and 1000) and a small molecular weight, which allows them to attract and hold nutrients and carry them directly to cell metabolic sites.

Ionic minerals mix with and attach to all types of materials, including both synthetic and organic chemicals. Ionic minerals are active at both high and low levels. Ionic minerals are polyelectrolytes with the ability to attach to toxins and heavy metals catalyzing the breakdown of toxic pollutants and scavenging heavy metals in soils and hydroponics solutions.

The origin of ionic minerals

Minerals are created from the oxidation of organic matter. Most ionic materials are a fracture of extracted humic substances from brown lignite. The oxidation process creates a product that has a high carbon and oxygen content and contains large amounts of free radicals due to the high amounts of oxygen-hydrogen groups. These groups are vital in the electron transfer, which is important to ionic exchanges.

Huvega: Analytical profile
Composition
Calcium 0.12%
Phosphorous 0.01%
Potassium 71 ppm
Copper 0.04 ppm
Selenium 0.03
Zinc 0.40
Sodium 560
Magnesium 426
Iron 256
Silicon 46
Boron 7
Manganese 6
Molybdenum 0.19
Iodine 0.41
Cobalt 0.04
Chromium 0.11

Plus more than 50 additional minerals.

Solubility: 100% in water; complete solubility at any pH over (1) and all liquids, acids or alkalis.



Seaplex™ Benefits:

* Cold processed to protect organic integrity
* Enhanced with trace minerals
* Homogenized to prevent separation
* 200 mesh screen filtration
* Water soluble for easy mixing

Exclusive trace minerals enhancement

Our trace minerals research ensures that Seaplex’s natural, potent mixture is enriched with a proprietary enzyme structure, along with a wide range of ionic minerals. These quality ingredients are processed into a rich, creamy liquid supplement that can be applied through any irrigation feed method.

The growth hormones in Seaplex are essential for cell division, root development, and bud initiation, making it a natural growth enhancer. Seaplex is also high in betain, a natural occurring amino acid derivative.

Amino acids

Seaplex has over 17 amino acids that are essential for increasing plant metabolism of trace minerals in the soil such as zinc, manganese, iron, boron, copper, cobalt and molybdenum.

Carbohydrates and polysaccharides

Alginic acid, mannitol and mannose sugars, all found in Seaplex, are natural chelating agents that release nutrients which are tied up in the soil or grow media. Oligosaccharides--a special class of carbohydrates--are essential for bud and flower formation, fruit set and fruit and flower yield.

Organic plant acids, enzymes and micronutrients

Seaplex’s unique formula combines organic plant acids, enzymes and over 72 minerals. These ionic minerals are natural plant nutrients essential to photosynthesis, elemental metabolism and cell formation. Ionic trace minerals, a natural electrolyte, are considered to be nature’s most effective chelating agents. Their high CEC rating and small size help carry nutrients directly to the plants metabolic sites.

Seaplex can be used for certified organic crop production, as determined by the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI).

I know I already posted the seaplex stuff but figured it'd be nice to have them all in one post for you to read and others to see cuz I'm a huge supporter of this stuff compared to the all the other nutrients I've tried out which is Flora Nova, the Fox Farm Trio, Happy Frog Dry Nutes ect and so far my plants seem happiest with the Organicare line.. I am curious about the new organic line from GH though...


great so your growing in a sterile medium but choose to add every form of life back to it via bottles of this n that when u could of just grown in living soil with coco added for aireation if that a word. hobbiest mentality :noway:
 

grouchy

Active member
you guys call these bulbs pl-l? arent these power compacts? i have used hps, twist t-5-t12 and 42w-23wcfls and these power compacts are way better and throw out so much more light and come with options of throwing in a MH bulb/LEDs etc.

i got a 36" dual bulb setup
Dual Daylight 6,700k/10,000k : 1 x 96 watt
Dual Actinic 420nm/460nm : 1 x 96 watt
No. of Switches: 2
Fan: Yes
Lunar Light Moon White LED : 1
Product Dimensions : 36.75" x 7.25" x 2.5"
Total Watts : 192 watt

This light has a led to simulate moonlight?

Does that cause hermies like a light leak would?
 

ScrubNinja

Grow like nobody is watching
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Ahhhh Pedro! Thanks bro, I've heard that term mentioned before so I'll look it up. I had been treating them quite mean - high temps and low water. Cheers! I couldn't find any charts for the lights by the way, but I'll try to take pics of the box.

Hilbie, no probs bro. I realised later that I came off like a complete dick and it was uncalled for, sorry :eek:: I'll be weighing it all up, just that the seeds may cause issue. Hopefully it works out that I can trim the product, then chop it up and remove the seeds, then weigh, but not sure how it's all gonna go down on the day.

Hank, I think PLL is mostly an ICmag term. Someone raised the same point a while back - PL-L is a Philips term. (lucky for me I got Philips bulbs!) but I see them referred to a lot here as 4 pin bi-axial, 2g11 base. I find it's so hard searching by any of these terms since there's no real standard. Most times I just search for '55w' as it gets me where I want to go the quickest. Never seen the option to attach a MH though, sounds like a fishy thing, awesome. Will you just veg under these spectrums and add mh for flower or what? Spill the beans please.

Oh also, once I hit day 70 or so, I'm going to remove a light, then probably another one later. 3 points to the person who guesses why!

Dammit people stop typing while I type!

Hilbie, coco isn't sterile, it has all kinds of stuff. The biobugs even has one of the trichoderma strains found in coco naturally.
 

b00m

~No Guts~ ~No Glory~
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Scrub:-
Oh also, once I hit day 70 or so, I'm going to remove a light, then probably another one later. 3 points to the person who guesses why!
A maturing plant doesn't require as much intense light as it goes thru it final flowering stages. Some plants are affected by this intense light towards the end, especially with trich production, my halloween pitchfork plant is a perfect example I reckon of a plant that could of done with lesser light towards the end of flowering imo. :2cents:
Am I right bro?
Happy Gardening All.
Peace
 

hilbie

Member
scrub u were never a dick, just tacit which is like a character rich polite dick,lol. just kiddin. and yes i realize coco isnt sterile-
 

DankHank

Member
Hank, I think PLL is mostly an ICmag term. Someone raised the same point a while back - PL-L is a Philips term. (lucky for me I got Philips bulbs!) but I see them referred to a lot here as 4 pin bi-axial, 2g11 base. I find it's so hard searching by any of these terms since there's no real standard. Most times I just search for '55w' as it gets me where I want to go the quickest. Never seen the option to attach a MH though, sounds like a fishy thing, awesome. Will you just veg under these spectrums and add mh for flower or what? Spill the beans please.

you wanted info on the bulbs etc.
http://www.current-usa.com/

i was going to place my order tonight but now im thinking maybe just get a closetmaid cab from lowes and stick 2 or 3- 24" 65w retrofits in their.
im looking just to grow a mom or two and veg a few dozen clones. i was going to get the dual 36"- 2 x 96w and mount it under a shelf and spread the plants out under the 36" setup..but maybe a few 24" in a cab is better?
i have a 150w hps right now and was looking for something with less heat but just as much lumens/watts ? i have a buddy with 2x 36" and i cant beleave the amount of growth he is getting.
 

DankHank

Member
This light has a led to simulate moonlight?

Does that cause hermies like a light leak would?
yes it could if left on, but the led/and each lamp has on/off
moonlight is for saltwater tank setups.. thats what these are used for but they are the brightest flouros i have ever seen and they grow them lush ;)from what ive seen so far
 

ScrubNinja

Grow like nobody is watching
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Hank, thanks bro. The led switch would be good for a green LED if you had to get in there at lights off, not that I do that. Personally I would be going with 55w, as they're the most light per watt apparently. Sorry if that's what you meant, you kinda lost me with the inches, I'm used to watts. :) I think 3 x 55w pll would veg way more, and way better than a 150 hps.

Boom, yes that's pretty much it. I want it to mellow since it'll be growing so damn long! Here's your points :2cents::2cents: gave you an extra point for the halloween timing, haha.
 
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ScrubNinja

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I know you guys get confused easy so this is not the one I put in there. :tongue:

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They have a "tropical island" one too :rasta:
 

DankHank

Member
the inches is just the length of the bulb..each length is a differant wattage.
what size are the 55w pll? how big are they and how do i find them.
thanks
 

ScrubNinja

Grow like nobody is watching
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Haha I had worked that bit out! It's just that we speak metric here and I haven't looked at the other bulbs, and I think aquarium people are more inclined to go by length rather than growers who mostly care about wattage, so nobody really refers to them by their lengths. The 55's are 21" from tip to base, not including pins. 20" of glass bulb.

My hood thing came from a hydro store with the bulbs etc, and the 10,000k bulb is from an aquarium store or I even bought one off ebay. If you go to wherever you were gonna buy the others, and type 55w or 55 watt into the search, you should find some.

Check the bottom link in my sig if you want a good overview in terms of growing weed.

Edit: Hmmm :chin: they don't sell 55's on your link. Wierd. But yeah, ebay, or other aquarium places or lighting stores.
 

ScrubNinja

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Alright well I haven't killed a single seedling out of 15 so I'm doin' alright! Check em out. First up is the worst one. This went through a day of 100º temps and no ventilation - zero! Plus the general temps early in life were close to 90. I predict male. I think it's nearly a month old! It was really messed up but coming good.

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This next one is the best Leda Uno, the first one in the diy air pot. All of these plants need a feed btw. They're about 2 weeks old.

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My favourite is easily L2 which has the strongest purpling, and the widest indica leaves.

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These are the trainwreck x princess diesel, about to get potted into ....yup... diy air pots! 500ml "beer cups" for these. Forgot to take a friggin' picture but I'm sure you'll see them at some stage :biglaugh: I'm going to give clear cups a go. They won't be in them too long. It seems to me like clear pots is a problem for hydro/inert medium guys, but not soil? Well that's what I told myself to avoid having to paint or tape 10 pots anyway. Thoughts?

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Will have to rearrange the cab again once I repot :wallbash:
 
hey scrub looking awesome man. about the clear cups: i read a post once this guy who just graduated from college said they did experiments on root growth in a bot class. he said they used clear cups to see root growth some were blacked out and some were left clear for variables and there was no difference..
 

ScrubNinja

Grow like nobody is watching
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Well cool, thanks a lot then! I got them all into clear cups. The PDs are quite sativa looking at this stage.
 

Thundurkel

Just Call me Urkle!!
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hobbiest mentality huh? more like I got a bunch of free nutes and wanted to see how the were and posted the info for others to read...
 

fatigues

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Hank, I think PLL is mostly an ICmag term. Someone raised the same point a while back - PL-L is a Philips term. (lucky for me I got Philips bulbs!) but I see them referred to a lot here as 4 pin bi-axial, 2g11 base.

"PLL" is not a term used anywhere - other than perhaps as shorthand for PL Lighting systems, which is another HID beastie entirely.

"PL-L" is the Phillips brandname for the 4 pin lights. "Biax" is GE's brandname for the same 4 pin lights.

2G11 would probably be a wiser term for everybody to use as that way - nobody would be confused. But as nobody uses it - it doesn't really help :) 2G11 is used to refer to the base only.

For better or worse, "PL-L" is what we're calling them here and it's a little too late to change that.
 

DankHank

Member
thanks for all the info on these power compacts..lol ;)
every online reefshop i checked none sell the pll 55w although i do know how to get the ballast/sockets/bulbs from 1000bulbs..im just going to get the 2 x 96w=192w unit..it comes with full reflector,cords,bulbs,fan and all ready to plug in. ill keep my 150hps for a future cab.
 

Strangely

Member
shit bro, I'm just gonna play it low and say 3, but could be 4 or more, I'm no good at guessing!
gotta be 5 or so, if Boom has that in the sweepstake (!) i'll go 5.5, but then Scrub probably knows it be up around there and has his modest hat on! ;)

so the certain plants that like the light to ease off is due to it better mimicing mother nature right? Autumn light being that bit weaker etc. I've read similar thinking in terms of reducing the time as well for the same reasons. Actually was that what someone just put? 'I am so high right now'
 
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