Dr. Green Thumb
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yesss these are looking very promising, i really just wish these were more price friendly....by the way blaze demm babies are looking good
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205w LED vs 400w HID Let the battle begin!
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First time I've heard someone say you get better quality from LEDs, care to explain how you came to that conclusion?
fourandtwenty
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I've read pretty much every thread on LED girls lights I can find on this forum and one thing i have noticed is that there is getting less and less criticism as the months roll by....I wonder why? Perhaps the old dogs are finally learning new tricks!
Hmm, we've sold hundreds and hundreds of lights and only one person has reported back having a single LED go out. I guess if your product is dropping LED's left and right then the company who designed it didn't do a good enough job at keeping the LED's cool, or selecting a quality LED to start with. In most scenarios it is not something you should worry about. In the one case we saw, we sent the customer out a replacement light right away. So to answer your question, when a diode fails you send the product back and get a new one. Then we take the panel and re-manufacture it, whether that means replacing the LED, a power supply, or what have you. As per light fade, again if they didn't do a good job at cooling it may be something to worry about, but not with our panels. You have 10% fade at 15,000 hours (2 solid years) and 70% fade at 50,000 hours (6 solid years). It's just like HID where you replace the light once it falls below a certain efficiency rating, and in most cases that won't be necessary for 10+ bloom years. By then LED's will be 2-3x as efficient as they are now anyways, so you'll probably want to get a new panel for that reason alone.
hi nitetiger, not a conclusion yet, but a strong suspicion. ive grown my MMG cut under a HG LED and thought the smoke was stronger and more aromatic than when grown under hps. ive grown outdoors, under hps, cmh and LED and im always interested in the differences.
im pretty sure Hazy also thought his sugar shack was stronger under LED.
VG
Hey NT. I smoked some sour diesel earlier grown under a 400 watt light and it was all that sour diesel normally is, which is very nice indeed. A few minutes ago I started this bowl of sour diesel grown under an LED and I am higher now than I was earlier. More colorful bud, much more dense, smells a bit stronger too. Not as big, but much more dense, and more importantly, and this was a big unexpected surprise to me was nicer high. I've tried three strains grown under both and I keep testing, as it were, to make sure it's not just me willing it to be so.
In fact, there is a blind test being done in my thread, you might find it interesting. I have no control over the results, they'll be posted when the recipients are finished with their judging. A third party will divulge what the judges samples were after they publish the reults.
Sorry Blaze, not meaning to jack your thread there, bro.
Looking at how amazing the vegging is going for you under the led makes me want to run the next one start to finish under the bloom lights instead of veging under the floros like i usually do.
Update Time 
It's been close to 2 weeks since installing the new mh bulb, It appears the LED is still keeping up the pace and growing at a faster rate. Doesnt seem like the HID is catching up.
I took some pictures of the largest plant from each side with a picture of the stalks.
LED side with the LED turned off!
HID/MH side
Largest plant on the LED side on the left, Largest from the HID side on the right!
Stalk from the largest plant on the HID side!
Stalk from the largest plant on the LED side.
It's been close to 2 weeks since installing the new mh bulb, It appears the LED is still keeping up the pace and growing at a faster rate. Doesnt seem like the HID is catching up.
I took some pictures of the largest plant from each side with a picture of the stalks.
LED side with the LED turned off!
HID/MH side
Largest plant on the LED side on the left, Largest from the HID side on the right!
Stalk from the largest plant on the HID side!
Stalk from the largest plant on the LED side.
great update blaze!
VG.
VG.
great update blaze,thanks!
el clandestino
super chato
Go led!!!!! Yeah man good job and best of luck.
el clandestino
super chato
Killer go leds!!!! Good luck with the new toy man I love my led.
I can see you rolling some really fat ones from those plants already 
When is 400 HID watts not 400 watts?
When is 400 HID watts not 400 watts?
When the bulb, hood, and ballast are not top of the line. There is as 20-30% light gain just having the best hood, and ballast to go along with the best bulb, which may be a 10-20% increase as well. Add all that up and maybe the comparison shots from today (4/27) would be a lot closer.
I looked on the first page here, but did not see where the bulb, hood, or ballast were referenced.
Now, IMHO, a 400 is far from a good choice as at best you're looking at 50K lumens, whereas a 600 outputs 90K lumens, which is closer to the ideal spectrum our girls thrive on.
Maybe a 205 is not sufficient to compare to a top-of-the-line 600, but whatever wattage LED that is, is the LED v HID/HPS test I want to see.
When is 400 HID watts not 400 watts?
When the bulb, hood, and ballast are not top of the line. There is as 20-30% light gain just having the best hood, and ballast to go along with the best bulb, which may be a 10-20% increase as well. Add all that up and maybe the comparison shots from today (4/27) would be a lot closer.
I looked on the first page here, but did not see where the bulb, hood, or ballast were referenced.
Now, IMHO, a 400 is far from a good choice as at best you're looking at 50K lumens, whereas a 600 outputs 90K lumens, which is closer to the ideal spectrum our girls thrive on.
Maybe a 205 is not sufficient to compare to a top-of-the-line 600, but whatever wattage LED that is, is the LED v HID/HPS test I want to see.
