2024 US Presidential Election

[shiva82]

paying taxes, working to service interest on an ever increasing debt which is a ponzi scheme backed by nothing. only one outcome . trillions in debt that can never be paid and that can only increase .

 

[nepalnt21]

i mean, our government is pretty far right... the dnc moderates are moderate right, and ppl like bernie are really not all that far left (a democratic socialist who wants workers to have rights... ooooh, spooky antifa radikkkal demonrat).

ffs, we have ppl running and winning (less so, luckily cause americans don't want it) on abortion bans... that's VERY far right shit... major public figures calling for cultural genocide (or genocide genocide, a few of em... mostly good xtian pastors) of gay, trans, etc ppl or even supporters of lgbtq rights.

the overton window is VERY right oriented. we are held back because of it... might go out like a light because of it.

 

[nepalnt21]

@shiva82

so the repubs giving billionaires tax breaks or even gifting them our tax money is gonna work out this time for us, right? that doesn't sound very pyramidal, hey maybe trump WILL fix everything with another historic transfer of wealth TO the already needlessly rich

 

[Hiddenjems]

0-24?!?!?!

the data from every other age group mucks up what we need... it needs to be broken down further like 0-2, 2-5, 6-8 etc...

this is why you guys are antivaxxer or think it's all a hoax... you have ZERO idea how to approach medical journals/ data.

“Among the 4.4 million COVID-19 deaths1reported in the MPIDR COVerAGE database, 0.4 per cent (over 17,400) occurred in children and adolescents under 20 years of age. Of the over 17,400 deaths reported in those under 20 years of age, 53 per cent occurred among adolescents ages 10–19, and 47 per cent among children ages 0–9.”


The reason there isn’t much data for 0-1 is because a statistically insignificant number of deaths happened in that range.

My wife was a medical professional at one of the best hospitals in the world, they developed their own treatments for Covid. When she had Covid she was hospitalized because her case was bad due to several comorbitities. She went from sick as hell to fine after 12-18 hours of treatment. She also had a reaction to the vax that had her in and out of the doctor for several months.


You can find info on dying kids because there weren’t any. At least statistically significant.

 

[Hiddenjems]

i mean, our government is pretty far right... the dnc moderates are moderate right, and ppl like bernie are really not all that far left (a democratic socialist who wants workers to have rights... ooooh, spooky antifa radikkkal demonrat).

ffs, we have ppl running and winning (less so, luckily cause americans don't want it) on abortion bans... that's VERY far right shit... major public figures calling for cultural genocide (or genocide genocide, a few of em... mostly good xtian pastors) of gay, trans, etc ppl or even supporters of lgbtq rights.

the overton window is VERY right oriented. we are held back because of it... might go out like a light because of it.

It’s called democracy when a majority decides policy.

 

[Hiddenjems]

Trump may be influenced by 'the corporation' but is not outright owned, unlike prostitute Joe and the Ho.

Same with JFK and Elon. You can not really buy them outright. Joe and the Ho were bought long ago. They do as they are told. Like most politicians.

Commies are far left. So I guess they balance out fascists? Just joking. Commies would be alright with me but they never deliver. They deliver police states. The Netherlands are not even socialist, but a mix with capitalism. They are often cited as examples to follow.

Western Europe isn’t the socialist haven Americans think. A lot of their policy is further right than us policy.

 

[nepalnt21]

It’s called democracy when a majority decides policy.

so what do you call us? i thought we were a democracy, kinda at least... a representative democracy but the minority of evangelist xtian nationalist republicans have to rig it to win, so i wish a majority of ppl dictated policy

and here:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02867-1/fulltext

my understanding, and i'm shitty at math so please eli5 if i'm wrong, but it looks like a newborn is about as vulnerable (ifr wise) as a 30 year old. help me out.

either way, j curve... not linear slope

 

[Hiddenjems]

so what do you call us? i thought we were a democracy, kinda at least... a representative democracy but the minority of evangelist xtian nationalist republicans have to rig it to win, so i wish a majority of ppl dictated policy

and here:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02867-1/fulltext

my understanding, and i'm shitty at math so please eli5 if i'm wrong, but it looks like a newborn is about as vulnerable (ifr wise) as a 30 year old. help me out.

either way, j curve... not linear slope

You sound like trumps sore loser ass in 2020.

The other side doesn’t win by cheating. They win by being whatever the populace wants them to be, and getting more votes.


Harris is a shitty politician. Someone like bill Clinton or barrack Obama would have crushed trump. Even with the limited time to prepare Harris had.


If the woman could sit down and have a non scripted conversation for a couple house with regular people about regular stuff, she could have had a chance.

 

[Hiddenjems]

so what do you call us? i thought we were a democracy, kinda at least... a representative democracy but the minority of evangelist xtian nationalist republicans have to rig it to win, so i wish a majority of ppl dictated policy

and here:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02867-1/fulltext

my understanding, and i'm shitty at math so please eli5 if i'm wrong, but it looks like a newborn is about as vulnerable (ifr wise) as a 30 year old. help me out.

either way, j curve... not linear slope

Number of COVID-19, Pneumonia and Influenza Deaths by Age of Death,
Michigan Occurrences, 2020​

Age Group	COVID-19 Deaths	COVID-19 Death Rate6	Deaths from All Causes	Pneumonia Deaths	Pneumonia & COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Population
Total	12,622	125.3	115,574	11,596	6,234	284	10,069,614
Infants	–	–	703	8	–	–	107,021
1-4 Years	–	–	99	2	–	2	447,959
5-14 Years	3	*	176	3	–	4	1,210,776
15-24 Years	14	1.0	1,021	29	8	1	1,361,010
25-34 Years	71	5.4	2,228	87	28	6	1,309,820
35-44 Years	157	13.2	3,111	170	73	8	1,193,070
45-54 Years	529	42.4	6,197	507	289	25	1,247,625
55-64 Years	1,367	97.4	14,871	1,493	756	55	1,403,316
65-74 Years	2,874	267.9	23,507	2,737	1,549	72	1,072,857
75-84 Years	3,592	702.4	28,260	3,273	1,819	60	511,387
85 Years & Over	4,015	1960.7	35,401	3,287	1,712	51	204,773

 

[nepalnt21]

whatever the populace wants them to be,

that's simply false. the majority of american people want progressive policy. the republicans literally rig it so that bumfuck is weighted higher than gotham, shit on voting access, gerrymandering and all kinds of other "technically within the bounds of the law but still in the spirit of cheating" shit.

ask 100 americans, 60 of them want (anonymous... no celeb names) progressive policy.

Number of COVID-19, Pneumonia and Influenza Deaths by Age of Death,

this is circular. why would total number be informative in this convo? ifr is the pertinent data set. number of deaths of under 4s is pointless in this convo unless we know how many of those under 4s (out of their data set) contracted it in the first place.

 

[Hiddenjems]

that's simply false. the majority of american people want progressive policy.

No they don’t. Just the bubble you surround yourself with.

 

[shiva82]

so what do you call us? i thought we were a democracy, kinda at least... a representative democracy but the minority of evangelist xtian nationalist republicans have to rig it to win, so i wish a majority of ppl dictated policy

and here:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02867-1/fulltext

my understanding, and i'm shitty at math so please eli5 if i'm wrong, but it looks like a newborn is about as vulnerable (ifr wise) as a 30 year old. help me out.

either way, j curve... not linear slope

democracy has never existed . that is the point . talking heads have no power , and elections are theatre

 

[eastcoastjoe]

If people really believe in freedom, they won't care who wants tampons.

I don’t think most people do. I think the main concern of the majority is pushing this agenda on our kids

 

[eastcoastjoe]

why does it matter how they look?

some people vote based on qualifications, i guess some people just want good looking people like donald trump as head of the executive branch.

don't worry, we'll get some really handsome but stupid people appointed in a few months

I don’t think it’s about looks. More about the agenda. The people spoke. No one wants this agenda pushed on our children. Do what you want in your personal life. I definitely believe in personal freedom. Just leave the kids out of it until they are developed enough to decide for themselves

 

[nepalnt21]

No they don’t. Just the bubble you surround yourself with.

i don't have a neat little infographic for you, but here's a not- so- pithy example:

take mitt romney's romneycare and get it in federal law...

call it "obamacare" and republicans want it gone;

call it "the affordable care act" and then tell those red- team voters it's how they and their mom can have health insurance, and they will be pissed when it's gone.

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conservoturd ticket: culture war and persecution- complex- authoritarixtianity, including maternal- mortality- raising abortion bans and r*pe threats; deregulating psychpath corporations and making prices go SKY high with shitty deals; gutting the government so our tax dollars get us a 3rd world country instead of a semblance of 1st world like we (barely) have... and handing all our money over directly to musk and bezos so they can fellate eachother in low- earth- orbit while the rest of us live out climate catastrophes in pods eating bugs like they always say about lefties.

progressive ticket: decent education for everyone, affordable food and housing for everyone, clean water, clean air, digital rights that don't shit on the end users, legal weed and freeing non- violent drug offenders, and gay people and trans people can exist and live their lives

 

[eastcoastjoe]

legal weed

. The farm bill is the best legal measure we have on the federal level to date. You already know who to thank for that

 

[armedoldhippy]

I would vote for any criminal who was willing to oppose this sexual attack against our children

there is no "sexual attack" on children in this, unlike The Chumps numerous assaults on women that have been reliably reported, and some of them litigated against him. if you had a teenage daughter, would you let her be an intern working near him ? take your time and think this through, i'll wait.

I don’t think most people do. I think the main concern of the majority is pushing this agenda on our kids

what agenda ? to let folks be themselves instead of being forced back into a closet again ? you are BADLY confused. and i am not surprised...

 

[armedoldhippy]

not gonna take up more space quoting your post above, nepaint21, but that was excellent.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

there is no "sexual attack" on children in this, unlike The Chumps numerous assaults on women that have been reliably reported, and some of them litigated against him. if you had a teenage daughter, would you let her be an intern working near him ? take your time and think this through, i'll wait.

what agenda ? to let folks be themselves instead of being forced back into a closet again ? you are BADLY confused. and i am not surprised...

So you think it’s ok to pressure parents to allow minor children to have a sex change or else, it’s considered child abuse ?

 

[nepalnt21]

Just leave the kids out of it until they are developed enough to decide for themselves

dude... no boogeyman is coming for our kids' genitals.

if they ban things like puberty blockers, etc., kids are gonna suffer... even the ones bigots don't deem [inserty nasty thing to say].