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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 42 60.9%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 27 39.1%

  • Total voters
    69

RobFromTX

Well-known member
The first step is to completely stop nominating politicians. Thats what made trump so appealing

Nominate a plumber, a carpenter, or a scientist like modest mustard
 

bigtacofarmer

Well-known member
Veteran
For living in the age of unlimited information and being connected to everyone so easily I find it fascinating we Iet these losers control our choices the way we do.
 

bigtacofarmer

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The first step is to completely stop nominating politicians. Thats what made trump so appealing

Nominate a plumber, a carpenter, or a scientist like modest mustard
Except he is a billionaire that doesn't even pay his own bills. He is as far from one of us as possible. I think we should elect farmers, doctors and scientists. People capable of taking care of others.
 

moose eater

Well-known member
For living in the age of unlimited information and being connected to everyone so easily I find it fascinating we Iet these losers control our choices the way we do.
Information (and disinformation) overload is paralyzing sanity in too many cases..

And anyone who thinks the US and Israel aren't master propagandists with a well-funded spin machine hasn't been paying attention.

For governments (or candidates) to lie to their people/constituents, whether by omission or directly, -ought- to be a serious felony.

Of course, now we have the concept of presidential immunity from a stacked SCOTUS to contend with, too.

And I think it's OK to hate some things. Mass murderers, rapists, liars, thieves, manipulators, and some others, too.
 
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moose eater

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I'm wagering that if I stopped watching accurate honest media daily, I could cut back on my daily dosage of Omeprazole and my bleeding acute gastritis would behave better. Instead, I antagonize it and put Tapatio Sauce on goddamned near everything I eat... just to show it who's boss!! :)
 

Cannavore

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Veteran
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moose eater

Well-known member
A tariff is what will now see most Americans paying 20% more for the same poorly manufactured goods from China that they are addicted to since corporate America was permitted to out-source manufacturing jobs in the US to Asia over the last 4+ decades.

Apparently Trump and others fail to realize that if there's few domestically manufactured substitutes for the goods being tariffed, then people will, at least for now, simply pay more for the same old shit.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
ICMag Donor
Veteran
A tariff is what will now see most Americans paying 20% more for the same poorly manufactured goods from China that they are addicted to since corporate America was permitted to out-source manufacturing jobs in the US to Asia over the last 4+ decades.

Apparently Trump and others fail to realize that if there's few domestically manufactured substitutes for the goods being tariffed, then people will, at least for now, simply pay more for the same old shit.
I wonder if he will also tariff wholesale stuff going to American companies which they 'assemble' in America and retail as 'made' in America. Some stuff from China is actually very high quality (I used to import some). What about all the generic drugs coming from China, which are affordable to America's working class poor.
 

Hiddenjems

Well-known member
A tariff is what will now see most Americans paying 20% more for the same poorly manufactured goods from China that they are addicted to since corporate America was permitted to out-source manufacturing jobs in the US to Asia over the last 4+ decades.

Apparently Trump and others fail to realize that if there's few domestically manufactured substitutes for the goods being tariffed, then people will, at least for now, simply pay more for the same old shit.
His stated goal is to abolish the irs and income tax, replacing the revenue with tariffs. This will essentially be a usage tax that is the same for everyone that buys stuff.

Whether this gets done I have no idea.
 

moose eater

Well-known member
I wonder if he will also tariff wholesale stuff going to American companies which they 'assemble' in America and retail as 'made' in America. Some stuff from China is actually very high quality (I used to import some). What about all the generic drugs coming from China, which are affordable to America's working class poor.
My experience with Chinese-made or Chinese-assembled goods has been that if the parent company contracting with Chinese companies has paid what are often the additional fees for quality control oversight, then the products are typically first rate. The corps that DON'T pay such fees for quality control get what they get.

I have an older Nikon 12x42 binocular here, as well as a rifle scope. both are excellent quality. Nikon didn't skimp in their contracting.

Much of the plastic consumer trash sold at Walmart and the box stores frequently doesn't meet those criteria.
 

moose eater

Well-known member
I wonder if he will also tariff wholesale stuff going to American companies which they 'assemble' in America and retail as 'made' in America. Some stuff from China is actually very high quality (I used to import some). What about all the generic drugs coming from China, which are affordable to America's working class poor.
Good question re. the tariffs and how far they're going to reach. Bearing in mind that Trump's a pro-Wall St. corporatist like the majority of the rest of the upper echelon of stuffed shirts in politics.
 

moose eater

Well-known member
His stated goal is to abolish the irs and income tax, replacing the revenue with tariffs. This will essentially be a usage tax that is the same for everyone that buys stuff.

Whether this gets done I have no idea.
No doubt with "A chicken in every pot." or "Some chicken for every pot head" or something like that. :)
 
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