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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 57.8%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 27 42.2%

  • Total voters
    64

xtsho

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moose eater

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538? So you get your knowledge from entities that data scrape social media sites. That's reliable. I see you're using science and facts.
I'd say that's a fairly dishonest statement about how 538 works their data.

But that doesn't surprise me at all.

By the way, that arrogance you copped to is showing, and no one was pushing but for you.
 

xtsho

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I'd say that's a fairly dishonest statement about how 538 works their data.

But that doesn't surprise me at all.

By the way, that arrogance you copped to is showing, and no one was pushing but for you.

At FiveThirtyEight, we strive to accumulate and analyze polling data in a way that is honest, informed, comprehensive and accurate. While we do occasionally commission polls, most of our understanding of American public opinion comes from aggregating polling data conducted by other firms and organizations. This data forms the foundation of our polling averages, election forecasts and much of our political coverage.
 

moose eater

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At FiveThirtyEight, we strive to accumulate and analyze polling data in a way that is honest, informed, comprehensive and accurate. While we do occasionally commission polls, most of our understanding of American public opinion comes from aggregating polling data conducted by other firms and organizations. This data forms the foundation of our polling averages, election forecasts and much of our political coverage.
Thank you for disproving your own earlier inflated claim(s).

They (538) do not gather push polls or social media click polls. They gather credibly conducted polls and run them together. A-N-A-L-Y-S-I-S.

Consider your earlier post's content and bogus claim(s), contrasted to the quote you highlighted, and the VERY obvious differences there in.

Then consider critical reading and writing skills and some of the attributes of such.

But your initial claim is a FAIL, based upon your own post immediately above.
 

greyfader

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feeling a bit testy lately? keyed up, nerves on edge? may i suggest a little bit of cannabis to calm the soul. maybe along with some smooth jazz.
 

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I found that when I'm using my VPN outside of California the YouTube links dont work. No other states or countries work.


 
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xtsho

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Thank you for disproving your own earlier inflated claim(s).

They (538) do not gather push polls or social media click polls. They gather credibly conducted polls and run them together. A-N-A-L-Y-S-I-S.

Consider your earlier post's content and bogus claim(s), contrasted to the quote you highlighted, and the VERY obvious differences there in.

Then consider critical reading and writing skills and some of the attributes of such.

But your initial claim is a FAIL, based upon your own post immediately above.

The only fail is you thinking that you're the smartest person in the room.

"polling data conducted by other firms and organizations"

What organizations? You don't have a clue. As far as you know they're scraping the data from the poll in this thread or using polling data taken from a facebook group. That's highly unlikely but you're making statements as fact when you when you have no way of knowing that what you're saying is indeed fact. In the github link I'll provide below you'll find a list of the polling firms 538 uses. Many are from firms that conduct those online polls

Do you even know the methodology they're using? Here it is:


Here's their github page that contains the data they're using:


I recommend that you educate yourself on the methodology and data that 538 is actually using so that you'll be more informed when you pretend to be an expert on how they collect and use the data that they A-N-A-L-Y-S-E.

Never believe everything you read on the internet and trust nothing. 538 is flawed. There has been a surge in GOP polling which skews the average in their favor. Harris is much farther ahead than the polling averages are showing. They're weighting the polls to get the results they want so when trump loses big they can say no way, the polls showed trump leading or tied, no way he lost by that much, stolen election nonsense.


"Michael Steele, the former Republican Party chairman who is strongly anti-Trump but has retained his GOP registration, agrees that some of these polls are gamed. “I know they are,” he said. “I’ve talked to enough people on this side of the street to know they are.” The way it’s done, he says, is that “you find different ways to weight the participants, and that changes the results you’re going to get.” That’s a striking allegation coming from such a longtime senior GOP insider.

Steele also shares some of the same worries as Rosenberg, Bonier, and others—that pro-Trump pollsters are feeding a perception of a Trump lead to provide his allies a way to blame a Trump loss on a rigged election. “They’re gamed on the back end so MAGA can make the claim that the election was stolen,” he said.

Stuart Stevens, the anti-Trump former Republican pollster, agreed. “Their game plan is to make it impossible for states to certify. And these fake polls are a great tool in that, because that’s how you lead people to think the race was stolen,” Stevens said. All manner of postelection mischief-making, and maybe even political violence, would be thus justified."
 

moose eater

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The only fail is you thinking that you're the smartest person in the room.

"polling data conducted by other firms and organizations"

What organizations? You don't have a clue. As far as you know they're scraping the data from the poll in this thread or using polling data taken from a facebook group. That's highly unlikely but you're making statements as fact when you when you have no way of knowing that what you're saying is indeed fact. In the github link I'll provide below you'll find a list of the polling firms 538 uses. Many are from firms that conduct those online polls

Do you even know the methodology they're using? Here it is:


Here's their github page that contains the data they're using:


I recommend that you educate yourself on the methodology and data that 538 is actually using so that you'll be more informed when you pretend to be an expert on how they collect and use the data that they A-N-A-L-Y-S-E.

Never believe everything you read on the internet and trust nothing. 538 is flawed. There has been a surge in GOP polling which skews the average in their favor. Harris is much farther ahead than the polling averages are showing. They're weighting the polls to get the results they want so when trump loses big they can say no way, the polls showed trump leading or tied, no way he lost by that much, stolen election nonsense.


"Michael Steele, the former Republican Party chairman who is strongly anti-Trump but has retained his GOP registration, agrees that some of these polls are gamed. “I know they are,” he said. “I’ve talked to enough people on this side of the street to know they are.” The way it’s done, he says, is that “you find different ways to weight the participants, and that changes the results you’re going to get.” That’s a striking allegation coming from such a longtime senior GOP insider.

Steele also shares some of the same worries as Rosenberg, Bonier, and others—that pro-Trump pollsters are feeding a perception of a Trump lead to provide his allies a way to blame a Trump loss on a rigged election. “They’re gamed on the back end so MAGA can make the claim that the election was stolen,” he said.

Stuart Stevens, the anti-Trump former Republican pollster, agreed. “Their game plan is to make it impossible for states to certify. And these fake polls are a great tool in that, because that’s how you lead people to think the race was stolen,” Stevens said. All manner of postelection mischief-making, and maybe even political violence, would be thus justified."
Laughable.

I never made any such claims about my intellect; you did so about yours. It's easy to ID a weak or damaged ego. Thanks for playing.

My ego can't hold a candle to your inflated sense of self, as though you're something more than a Google warrior disconnected from reality. Maybe post another action film as the answer to the 90-year-old (failed) drug war, as though you can't comprehend where that approach has led to historically.

Try some reality for a change.

Your relying on fantasy coupled with snippets that fail to meet your claims has gotten way old. Accusing 538 of gathering click polls from social media!! Bwahahahahahhaa.

And your ego and arrogance have an incredible reaction to being told you're wrong. You might see someone about that. Or maybe you have already? Did the military reject you for having difficulty with average written or spoken word? Because there's evidence that's an issue for you.. Numerous times over.

You offer evidence up to prove your claims when some of the time your own evidence proves the opposite.

And tell me more about the US military's being way ahead of everyone else in tech, and how we engage in war to test said equipment. I'm pretty sure that Iran's archaic weapons walked right past the expensive US-provided Iron Dome in Israel the other day, striking several military targets with limited or no loss of human life... unlike the US and Israel.

If nationalism were toxic, you'd have ODed a long time ago.

Piss off before you embarrass yourself even more. You're still more reminiscent of the knight on the bridge crossing in Monty Python's 'In search of the Holy Grail."

And it seems that my posts cause you angst or make you feel threatened/inferior, or you wouldn't dig so deeply for bullshit to counter them.
 
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