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2024 US Presidential Election

Who will become next President in U.S. what do you think?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 26 54.2%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 22 45.8%
  • Total voters
    48
Microbeman

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Yup. let's go Brandon. You just got the green light from the supreme court.

“The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote.

“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."
 
zachrockbadenof

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greyfader said:
well, the debate puts to rest all arguments about Bidens age, he is definitely too old to be president!

and the debate also makes it clear that Trump is a pathological liar. he relies on the uneducated to have short memories.

i think the best course of action to stop Trump now is to nominate a much younger, more dynamic but moderate Democratic candidate at the convention.
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i like newsome.... lets bring sanfran to all of america
 
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greyfader said:

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Both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump made false and misleading claims during CNN’s presidential debate on Thursday – but Trump did so far more than Biden, just like in their debates in 2020.

Trump made more than 30 false claims at the Thursday debate. They included numerous claims that CNN and others have already debunked during the current presidential campaign or prior.

Trump’s repeat falsehoods included his assertions that some Democratic-led states allow babies to be executed
Biden made at least nine false or misleading claims in the debate. He used false numbers while describing two of his key Medicare policies, falsely claimed that no US troops had been killed on his watch, repeated his usual misleading figure about billionaires’ tax rates, baselessly claimed that Trump wants to eliminate Social Security, falsely said that the unemployment rate was 15% when he took office, inaccurately said that the Border Patrol union had endorsed him before clarifying that he was talking about agents’ support for the border bill he had backed, and exaggerated Trump’s 2020 comments about the possibility of treating Covid-19 by injecting disinfectant."
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greyfader said:

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Both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump made false and misleading claims during CNN’s presidential debate on Thursday – but Trump did so far more than Biden, just like in their debates in 2020.

Trump made more than 30 false claims at the Thursday debate. They included numerous claims that CNN and others have already debunked during the current presidential campaign or prior.

Trump’s repeat falsehoods included his assertions that some Democratic-led states allow babies to be executed after birth, that every legal scholar and everybody in general wanted Roe v. Wade overturned, that there were no terror attacks during his presidency, that Iran didn’t fund terror groups during his presidency, that the US has provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has, that Biden for years referred to Black people as “super predators,” that Biden is planning to quadruple people’s taxes, that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi turned down 10,000 National Guard troops for the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, that Americans don’t pay the cost of his tariffs on China and other countries, that Europe accepts no American cars, that he is the president who got the Veterans Choice program through Congress, and that fraud marred the results of the 2020 election.

Trump also added some new false claims, such as his assertions that the US currently has its biggest budget deficit and its biggest trade deficit with China. Both records actually occurred under Trump.

Biden made at least nine false or misleading claims in the debate. He used false numbers while describing two of his key Medicare policies, falsely claimed that no US troops had been killed on his watch, repeated his usual misleading figure about billionaires’ tax rates, baselessly claimed that Trump wants to eliminate Social Security, falsely said that the unemployment rate was 15% when he took office, inaccurately said that the Border Patrol union had endorsed him before clarifying that he was talking about agents’ support for the border bill he had backed, and exaggerated Trump’s 2020 comments about the possibility of treating Covid-19 by injecting disinfectant."
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what were the 9 false/misleading statements, cause i couldn't understand a word he was saying
 
moose eater

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Microbeman said:
Yup. let's go Brandon. You just got the green light from the supreme court.

“The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote.

“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."
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"The harder they come, the harder they fall, one and all..." (Jimmy Cliff)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable..." (John F Kennedy)

Of course, once they're merely Teflon-coated criminals, there's that much more probability of 'instant karma' seeking them out... At which time there -will- be a party of celebration at my house.
 
moose eater

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Anyone wishing to enlighten the SCOTUS justices as to where this return to monarchy likely leads to, can contact the partisan, sold-out, twisted, bribe-taking pukes at:

Supreme Court of the United States
1 First Street, NE.
Washington, DC 20543.

They won't likely care a whole lot at this juncture, but at least it will put them on notice as to why bricks or molotov cocktails might fly through their windows in the future when the masses reach boiling point.
 
moose eater

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Cannavore said:
joe biden is paul von hindenburg

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Biden's already violated those 'limits of power' by continuing to send arms and munitions to Israel after it's been made clear that they've been violating international law and human rights for half of eternity, which makes arming them a violation of both US and international laws.

So, he's essentially promising to abide by boundaries he's currently already violating, that have him breeching international and US laws.

I don't know. Let me reconsider the voracity of his commitments to fair-mindedness and boundaries and re-evaluate the acceptability of his demonstrated honor and character...

OK, I'm done. He's still a corporatist, Wall St.-sucking, DoD-addled, pro-drug war shill and stuffed shirt who never met an illegal military action he didn't like as long as it was the US', with too large of an ego and no soul.

But hey, we can trust him to continue on as he has, in the same way he has...

And then there's Bonafide psychopath Trump.

Ought to be a heck of a party.
 
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Microbeman said:
Yup. let's go Brandon. You just got the green light from the supreme court.

“The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world. When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote.

“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."
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The way to prosecute a president is already clear, impeachment. The president can only be tried In the senate. Otherwise ho hum county prosecutors could insert themselves into national politics……..
 
moose eater

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Hiddenjems said:
The way to prosecute a president is already clear, impeachment. The president can only be tried In the senate. Otherwise ho hum county prosecutors could insert themselves into national politics……..
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Impeachment doesn't require criminal action to have occurred. Never has.

If there's truly equal protection under the laws (and per the current SCOTUS, there's not), then criminal activity by a President would be met with criminal prosecution in the courts.

But the Bill of Rights hasn't been much more than outhouse wallpaper in years anyway.

Welcome to the monarchy of the New and Improved United Corporate States.
 
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