2024 ACE seeds Mystery Grow

[chronosync]

Not a bad idea. Sometimes when plants have issues its not nutrients, it could be something else.
First thing I usually ask is how is the air flow? How about air exchange? Temps, including floor temp as maybe they re on the basement floor like my first grow. Environment plays a huge role in how the plants behave.

you can get calcium deficiency from low transpiration, or you can have reduced uptake of P from low root temps etc.

The best advice I ever got was to find grows I look up to and copy them. Do what they do, use what they use.
Coco is easy but I wouldnt have said that about using it as a beginner. Once you know how coco works its super easy and easy to correct when things go off.

My first run with panama took about 12 weeks on average. I think a few were done in 10-11 and a few were more like 12-13. The one I ended up keep as a clone wasnt flowered with the rest as i thought it was a male. It goes to 14 weeks although I have taken it earlier and it was excellent. In the case of the haze above, I only chopped it at 90 because the sugar leaves were starting to yellow and pull out of the colas easily when tugged on. Usually when that happens its a sign of bud rot but this time was not the case. So I learned something there and even if the results werent perfect it was worth doing. I will keep growing her and making crosses with her..

you should check out a user on here named FeelHaze

FeelHaze indoor garden ; my quest to find exotic and trippy cannabis cultivars

Hi, I'm FeelHaze, a canadian microgrower. Here start my first grow journey with ace seeds. After growing hybrids for a couple years and buying Canadian legal weed for some time, I got tired of the lack of diversity in effects. Commercial sativas nowaday all seem to be 9 weekers that hit like...

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And a happy Thanksgiving to you!

 

[Dr Bombay]

Hey Chrono!

Happy Thanksgiving. Hope you are enjoying some great food.

I need to dial it in better. I have the lights at 50% so 280W. I think that should be fine tho they seem to respond well at 140W. I think the cold may have something to do with it. It's probably about 20C pretty consistently. I can't get it warm enough. That's why l stopped growing in winter. Maybe l should put a fan on the floor next grow.

I bought a box of coco soil with nutes a few years ago. Enough for four five gallon containers. Read that fast 5 times. I think l will give it a try. I hope l can get some of my seeds to germinate. That's what started this seasons delay.

I miss being able to get ACE seeds directly. They have such great deals but only shipping now to UK and Europe. Seed shops l know of don't have sales like ACE. So l need to learn to grow seeds as a next journey. I thought l might have got some when l had that male appear in my PHXM grow. I didn't find any in the buds tho. I am still enjoying that. I hope the Panama can come far enough along to provide next year's smoke. Maybe it's an excuse to go to Spanibus!

Notwithstanding, l think there is much to dial in. But doable.

Thank you also for the send. FeelHaze has expressed my experience with store bought weed and hopes for more. This is why l started growing also. ACE seeds have been super fun to smoke and experience. So much to learn about these landraces.

How she looks today. So about 8 weeks. Leaves from today. I love that colour yellow . You think l can getva couple more weeks?

Thank you again for your thoughtfulness and suggestions. I hope you are enjoying the day and long weekend!

 

[chronosync]

"l need to learn to grow seeds as a next journey"

- its as simple as leaving a male in flowering tent - when you are ready to go for it dont hesitate to ask I can give you a few tips

"It's probably about 20C pretty consistently"

- thats a issue - it brings back memories of trying to grow in my basement. I stopped growing down there when I decided it wasnt worth the struggle and conditions being not so great sometimes. Everything is much better now that I can grow in a clean room with heat in the winter.
-using LED you pretty much want 85f lights on and about 10f degrees cooler at night, Thats the reason you cant crank the light. A full blast LED demands the leaf photosynthesize at optimal efficiency. The leaf surface temps come into play there as that is where the chloroplasts are. Since LED gives off very little infra red (heat) they dont warm the leaf surface the same way as HID does. Not only are HID lights hotter in the room they actually warm the plant.

"Most biochemical reactions only operate within a certain temperature range, and have an even narrower range in which the reaction proceeds most efficiently. If temperatures are too low or too high, the reactions proceed more slowly or not at all. Most of any plant's metabolism occurs within the leaf; for any given plant, there is an optimal leaf surface temperature range that maximizes growth and production of other desirable secondary metabolites such as resins, pigments, flavor-enhancing compounds and vitamins."

Check out this article:

Leaf Surface Temperature with HPS, MH, CFL and LED Grow Lights

Effects of Different Artificial Grow Lighting Technologies on Leaf Surface Temperature Table of Contents Abstract FLIR Image of a BD240-U Introduction Why does Leaf Surface Temperature (LST) Matter? What is the Ideal Leaf Surface Temperature? What Affects Leaf Surface Temperature? The Evidence...

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"You think l can get a couple more weeks?"

- I think they look great especially for the temps there lets hope they can stay the course, they've made it this far

"Enough for four five gallon containers. Read that fast 5 times. I think l will give it a try"

well the number's 555-555-5555

I use straight coco from the brick, I hydrate it with full strength nutes. Its just a medium to give the roots something to hold on to and drink. By the sound of that stuff is its more like a potting soil blend, which is fine too. If theres any confusion: while coco can make a good addition to soil it also can be used as a stand alone medium which puts it into the soil-less category same as rockwool or perlite. They each have their own properties and caveats but are there mainly as a medium to give the plant somewhere to put its roots and to retain nutrient solution and microbe colonies etc


Hope you had a great TG. I had a nice one this year with lots of good food, friends, and family

 

[Dr Bombay]

Hey Chrono thank you as always.

That's some super info re leaf surface temperature. The leaves of the plants in your grows are always green and healthy. I think the heat may be playing a big role in my grows. I had to stop my winter grows because of that. I like to try and have the plants finish in October but my ability to germinate the seeds this year was way off. It really shows in the size of the other 2 plants. Even tho it was late

I decided to go for it anyway.

I can't get this house too warm generally over winter. I think the only way would be to put this old house inside a newer house.

I also think that the over feeding has done a bit of a number on the big plant . As you predicted. Even tho l am only feeding PH water since post. The leaves are getting some brown spots now instead of just the minion colour.

They do smell nice and l see some frost on them and they are getting a bit Tito Fuente mallet heavy. Hopefully dry by Christmas

If l can bring them in well It will be like Wellington describing the victory at the battle of Waterloo, ' it was a near run thing'.

Thank you for your insights as always. Some Sunday football and music is in order for today.

 

[chronosync]

Hey check this out. This guy was using %8 light from incandescent bulbs in his commercial facility

I got this idea somewhere on the forums and decided to look back at this post from Antenna seeds. I think if you add a few incandescent bulbs at around %10 of the watts you are using you will see a marked difference. You can get low wattage appliance bulbs that fit a standard socket.