2016 Outdoor Garden of Eden

[maxmurder]

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[caterpillar710]

what wattage are you running and how many square feet per fixture?

speaking of feet i hope your trim room is just plywood, those damn trimmers get resin everywhere- floor, door knobs, light switches, remote control, phone, shower beaver blaster etc.

It's not for trimming its for them to sleep in.

I can house about 12 people here comfortably with no one having to camp and still have a dedicated area for trimming.

1000w DE HPS on 8x8s

 

[BrainSellz]

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Next year I am going to get more into essential oils. If I remember correctly, Kempf's sister makes some top grade oils. There seems to be a huge difference in quality between brands.

dōTERRA makes some of the best I have found. Pricey but you get what you pay for. Yes, the quality goes from doo-doo shwag to top shelf and everybody is asking for a pretty penny.

What plant or plants look to be finishing first?

 

[FoothillFarming]

It's not for trimming its for them to sleep in.

I can house about 12 people here comfortably with no one having to camp and still have a dedicated area for trimming.

1000w DE HPS on 8x8s

I think I saw your cabin on IG. Two story window wall with natural light, very nice work. Would have taken me 3 months to build that.

dōTERRA makes some of the best I have found. Pricey but you get what you pay for. Yes, the quality goes from doo-doo shwag to top shelf and everybody is asking for a pretty penny.

What plant or plants look to be finishing first?

I will have to check out doTerra, thanks.

Blue berry hash plant, Sky Lotus and SuperSilverHashPlant seem to be finishing up first in my garden.

 

[caterpillar710]

We have just been picking away at the cabin and getting to it when extra time and funds allow...been working on it since 2014 but if you add up the total working days it's about 35 , I'm having my buddy come and put the floor in because that's what his trade is so it'll be a lot better than what I could do.

Finished paint today. I'm stoked on how it turned out and how it'll look with the floor. I picked the colors in about 10 minutes and told my girl if we don't like it we can paint over it. Luckily that won't be necessary.

 

[theJointedOne]

Can someone please pm me with a recommended place to send soil samples?

Any and all info is appreciated.

Thanks

 

[FoothillFarming]

TheJointedOne:

Two places I send my soil.

Logan labs. Ask for "AEA Base Plus EC, Mo,Co,Se,Si" for around 30$. Then you can add No3 and No4 for an additional 10-16$.

Spectrum Labs. Ask for the Michael Kraidy package.

I always loved Logan labs but I am really liking Spectrum also. If you want SlowNickel (aka Kraidy) to look at your results, he prefers Spectrum.

Good luck, and if you don't mind post them up when you get them.

 

[theJointedOne]

Thanks for the info, I'm gonna go with spectrum.

 

[plantingplants]

Foothill, how'd you end up with all that B in some of your pots?

 

[FoothillFarming]

Couple things.

The person "helping" me with my soil early in the year told me 11g borax = 1ppm boron in soil test per yard of soil. Ended up being more like 3ppm.

Second thing is the Ca product from AEA had boron I didn't account for.

 

[slownickel]

Couple things.

The person "helping" me with my soil early in the year told me 11g borax = 1ppm boron in soil test per yard of soil. Ended up being more like 3ppm.

Second thing is the Ca product from AEA had boron I didn't account for.

How much boron was in your water analysis?

 

[FoothillFarming]

.02 ppm

 

[slownickel]

Couple things.

The person "helping" me with my soil early in the year told me 11g borax = 1ppm boron in soil test per yard of soil. Ended up being more like 3ppm.

Second thing is the Ca product from AEA had boron I didn't account for.

How fast did you add that dosis? In the preparation before planting?

 

[FoothillFarming]

I was mixing a half yard at a time up, then sending it into the lab. I was mixing in kiddie pools, as even and through as possible. Layered the amendments over the base mix evenly, mixed, mixed and mixed some more. My results were very uniform except the changes I was trying to make.

 

[plantingplants]

So I'm guessing ppm in a soil analysis would be mg/L of soil. So 764L in one cubic yard of soil... 11000mg of 10% borax = 1100mg B into 764L soil = 1.43 ppm

"on average, 15 lb p2o5/acre are required to raise the soil-test P level by 1 ppm (2 lb/acre)."

15 lbs * 454g = 6810 * 1000 = 6810000mg P2o5 * .44 = 2996400mg P / 2000000 lbs (the weight of an acre furrow slice) = 1.49 ppm

I bring that up because I wonder if that's what leadsled was basing it on. 1.49 is close to 1.43... I guess you lose 30% of the amendment, which would equal 1 ppm if you applied 1.43 ppm.

Anyway, all that to say it sounds like he gave you the amendment numbers based on a 2,000,000 lb acre slice and didn't adjust it for lighter soilless media. Maybe you already figured this out. I was going to ask how it turned into 3 ppm, but just started trying to figure it out. What I guess happened is that your soil is 50% lighter, so you added double the dosage... 2.86 ppm to your soil, of which 30% of should have been lost, but maybe it wasn't for some reason (smaller volume, less room for loss? soilless?). So there's 3 ppm (i assume 2.86 would round up to 3 3) instead of 1 ppm.

 

[FoothillFarming]

TheJointedOne

I heard this from slownickel

"It is not the Kraidy test, it is now called the K-2 test. M3 procedure, [email protected] procedure for the bases, Na, Al, EC and total nitrogens. $41. hahaha....
Thanks to the PGA for contributing to this very critical piece of the puzzle....
"


When sending into spectrum labs

 

[FoothillFarming]

So I'm guessing ppm in a soil analysis would be mg/L of soil. So 764L in one cubic yard of soil... 11000mg of 10% borax = 1100mg B into 764L soil = 1.43 ppm

"on average, 15 lb p2o5/acre are required to raise the soil-test P level by 1 ppm (2 lb/acre)."

15 lbs * 454g = 6810 * 1000 = 6810000mg P2o5 * .44 = 2996400mg P / 2000000 lbs (the weight of an acre furrow slice) = 1.49 ppm

I bring that up because I wonder if that's what leadsled was basing it on. 1.49 is close to 1.43... I guess you lose 30% of the amendment, which would equal 1 ppm if you applied 1.43 ppm.

Anyway, all that to say it sounds like he gave you the amendment numbers based on a 2,000,000 lb acre slice and didn't adjust it for lighter soilless media. Maybe you already figured this out. I was going to ask how it turned into 3 ppm, but just started trying to figure it out. What I guess happened is that your soil is 50% lighter, so you added double the dosage... 2.86 ppm to your soil, of which 30% of should have been lost, but maybe it wasn't for some reason (smaller volume, less room for loss? soilless?). So there's 3 ppm (i assume 2.86 would round up to 3 3) instead of 1 ppm.

Awesome post. I still can't figure it out, because we weighed the soil bone dry and tested only the base without aeration.

It is possible that the AEA HoloCal added more boron that I thought. Although the math doesn't add up there either.

We also tested the base layer of peat/compost and the boron isn't from there either.

The only thing I can think that would raise the PPM's of boron that much would be the borax. Mathematically, you got me?....

 

[FoothillFarming]

O yea, and MicroPak from AEA. However to the soil I was only applying 1ml per gal once every other week.

 

[slownickel]

We also tested the base layer of peat/compost and the boron isn't from there either.

The only thing I can think that would raise the PPM's of boron that much would be the borax. Mathematically, you got me?....

Where did you test the original levels of boron at? Logan? That would explain a lot of things.

 

[FoothillFarming]

Where did you test the original levels of boron at? Logan? That would explain a lot of things.

Sure did.