FoothillFarming
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Found your photos in your album and made comments.
There is a variegated symptom on your best up close photo. Is this girl and OG clone? Or do you see this as a deficiency? Excellent photo by the way. Camera or phone?
There is a variegated symptom on your best up close photo. Is this girl and OG clone? Or do you see this as a deficiency? Excellent photo by the way. Camera or phone?
FoothillFarming
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That's the wives Nikon d7000, her old one. It's sweet, has three lens. The lens I used was a macro. She also has a zoom lens, and a portrait lens. Pretty sweet.
Strain is Killer Queen Redux, which is c 99 x g13bx. However all my strains at one point or another have showed these signs. The more I think about it, every year my plants show these signs. Even the soils where my Ca levels are high, and have worms making it available.
Care to extrapolate a little on the "variegated symptoms"? You mean like lack of Mg causing serrated leaves?
I see this as a Ca deficiency. Am I wrong?
Strain is Killer Queen Redux, which is c 99 x g13bx. However all my strains at one point or another have showed these signs. The more I think about it, every year my plants show these signs. Even the soils where my Ca levels are high, and have worms making it available.
Care to extrapolate a little on the "variegated symptoms"? You mean like lack of Mg causing serrated leaves?
I see this as a Ca deficiency. Am I wrong?
My experience with this crop is minimum. I posted this symptom in the what's wrong with my plant section. No real answers so far.
Someone mentioned on another thread that this variegation is one of the birthmarks of the OG blood line.
I have never seen a deficiency that looks like this in any crop.
Realistically I have more questions than answers.....
Someone mentioned on another thread that this variegation is one of the birthmarks of the OG blood line.
I have never seen a deficiency that looks like this in any crop.
Realistically I have more questions than answers.....
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I want to say I am 100% sure it's Ca. Maybe I will wait for some symptoms to return, and only spray Albion instead of my full foliar regimen.
I took a 3 day class that Crop Health Labs put on, they do plant sap analysis. They claim this is also due to low levels of Ca.
I took a 3 day class that Crop Health Labs put on, they do plant sap analysis. They claim this is also due to low levels of Ca.
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Type in google search, "HortiNova Mineral Mobilization chart"
3rd search item down should be a pdf you can download from acres USA.
12th page down shows a plant chart, that is a chart I often reference. Could be B as well.
3rd search item down should be a pdf you can download from acres USA.
12th page down shows a plant chart, that is a chart I often reference. Could be B as well.
I have been speaking with them for a while. They don't have data for citrus nor avocado which are my main crops.
I imagine they have great data on cannabis.
I imagine they have great data on cannabis.
Slownickel,
I've seen variegated leaves on three different cultivars, two being og lineage. It is also seen in the "chemdawg" lines. The current plant I have that shows this is a WiFi cut (#3 aka "Boulder cut") that there are pictures of in my album. I'm able to successfully flower it out now without it becoming what people on the forums call a dud. However, before my soil was balanced 20% of these plants would succumb to what I believe is a fungal pathogen. I can't say whether it is fusarium, rhizoctonia, alternaria, etc. but I'm pretty sure it isn't tobacco mosaic virus. To my knowledge all the people who have sent samples in of plants displaying this have them come back negative for tmv. It could be a different virus, but fungus seems likely.
Also, its a bummer but I don't think Nova has a lot of data on Cannabis. Or if they do they don't publish it last time I checked. It's way illegal for us to ship them leaves and I doubt it would make it through customs anyway.
I've seen variegated leaves on three different cultivars, two being og lineage. It is also seen in the "chemdawg" lines. The current plant I have that shows this is a WiFi cut (#3 aka "Boulder cut") that there are pictures of in my album. I'm able to successfully flower it out now without it becoming what people on the forums call a dud. However, before my soil was balanced 20% of these plants would succumb to what I believe is a fungal pathogen. I can't say whether it is fusarium, rhizoctonia, alternaria, etc. but I'm pretty sure it isn't tobacco mosaic virus. To my knowledge all the people who have sent samples in of plants displaying this have them come back negative for tmv. It could be a different virus, but fungus seems likely.
Also, its a bummer but I don't think Nova has a lot of data on Cannabis. Or if they do they don't publish it last time I checked. It's way illegal for us to ship them leaves and I doubt it would make it through customs anyway.
In Oregon, we are driving samples to A&L lab and labeling them as something else.
We need foliar analysis in the worst way to see where things are.
Thanks for the comments on the variegation symptoms.
I too thought it was a virus. Maybe coming through the seed.
Let me see if this turns into a dud and let's concentrate on this trait to see if it is real.
I see only a couple of branches with this trait, the others don't have it. Do you see it sporadic in your plants as well?
We need foliar analysis in the worst way to see where things are.
Thanks for the comments on the variegation symptoms.
I too thought it was a virus. Maybe coming through the seed.
Let me see if this turns into a dud and let's concentrate on this trait to see if it is real.
I see only a couple of branches with this trait, the others don't have it. Do you see it sporadic in your plants as well?
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Ok, what are you guys seeing where fusarium, rhizoctonia ext are possible? Am I missing something?
Also, I did not do any sap samples with them. They only have a lab out of the states, and they are not keen on getting an entire order held at customs because some pot head sent in pot. I was just stating what I learned during the conference.
Also, I did not do any sap samples with them. They only have a lab out of the states, and they are not keen on getting an entire order held at customs because some pot head sent in pot. I was just stating what I learned during the conference.
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Don't ignore my last post please.
When I was taking soil samples again today, I had an incredibly hard time digging into the soil. The roots are matted, everywhere, and strong. I had to take most of my samples from further out in the pots than I would have liked.
All evidence against root funk, but I am all ears guys.
When I was taking soil samples again today, I had an incredibly hard time digging into the soil. The roots are matted, everywhere, and strong. I had to take most of my samples from further out in the pots than I would have liked.
All evidence against root funk, but I am all ears guys.
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I haven't seen that. Thanks for posting it. Yea if you've only been doing your full foliar, then maybe try spraying one plant with just Ca, another with just water, and the rest with your full foliar. Not proper science but might give you something to go off of.
Couldn't find that deficiency chart...
Let me test:
Couldn't find that deficiency chart...
Let me test:
FoothillFarming
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Got help from admin's on posting pics. If you find that pdf, that has way more information. However here is the plant chart I was speaking of.
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So I did a good search of Variegated leaves in cannabis, and those pictures are scary. Not sure what you guys are seeing, but the leaf pictured looks like most of my grow. I grow from seed, from at least 4 different breeders.
You guys f-in with me?
You guys f-in with me?
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Didn't want to clutter another thread. Thought you would catch the answer here.
No idea, how do I calculate and I will have your answer. I can tell you about 100 gallons a day needs to be filled in my pool.......Yea, that isn't the answer you were looking for, lol.
Find out where you are on this page.
I have a great irrigation guy from Spain that I work with who can help run some numbers for you. I know enough about irrigation to be dangerous that is all.
I have a great irrigation guy from Spain that I work with who can help run some numbers for you. I know enough about irrigation to be dangerous that is all.
Here is the page, sorry.
http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/htmlfiles/westevap.final.html
Just tell me which weather station you are closest to.
http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/htmlfiles/westevap.final.html
Just tell me which weather station you are closest to.
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Pretty close to the Lake Melones data points. Maybe 20-40 miles away, but similar climate for sure. California
Found it, New Melones Lake.
Not fucking with you. We don't know for certain what causes the variegated leaves. It could be multiple things. My experience with it is also limited and in my case it would seem to be a virus or fungal pathogen. I'll try to take pictures at the end of the month when I'm back home.
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