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2.5x1.8 meter coco scrog, 3 strain bingo!!
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day 29
day 29
Hey cheers Shhh, yeah things are looking cool so far. I keep getting minor anxiety about things going pear shape again, but it does look like everything is coming together nicely.
Yeah that`s the Armageddon Shhh, the nugs do get very resinous, but the leaf doesn`t get to crystally. Well that`s going by the plants that`ve been harvested from my mate`s tent.
Some of the lower part of the scrog it this tent are still hanging in there, the lower nugs that were obscured from the light have swollen up quickly and they`re ultra firm and dense too.
Here`s a pic of tent 2, they`re at the same stage as those in my garden.
By the looks of things at this stage Shhh, the frost bombs are going to be the Grapefruit, the resin build up on these plants is amazing @ day 29 of 63 on 12/12. Look at this mate.
This is one of the lesser shoots from the Grapefruit
This is one of the main Grapefruit tops
The whole thing is looking pretty cool at the mo, a bit of an exodus of lower leaves has been going on the past 3 or 4 days but I dont think its anything out of the norm.
and if you cobble them all together it looks a little like this
I filled a res up with ec1.3 plus 5mls per liter PK13/14 bringing it up to ec1.4, I`ve been doing some leaf tucking today, tho I need to get to my hole in the screen to tuck the difficult to reach leaves.
Cheers, Toke
day 29
Hey cheers Shhh, yeah things are looking cool so far. I keep getting minor anxiety about things going pear shape again, but it does look like everything is coming together nicely.
Yeah that`s the Armageddon Shhh, the nugs do get very resinous, but the leaf doesn`t get to crystally. Well that`s going by the plants that`ve been harvested from my mate`s tent.
Some of the lower part of the scrog it this tent are still hanging in there, the lower nugs that were obscured from the light have swollen up quickly and they`re ultra firm and dense too.
Here`s a pic of tent 2, they`re at the same stage as those in my garden.
By the looks of things at this stage Shhh, the frost bombs are going to be the Grapefruit, the resin build up on these plants is amazing @ day 29 of 63 on 12/12. Look at this mate.
This is one of the lesser shoots from the Grapefruit
This is one of the main Grapefruit tops
The whole thing is looking pretty cool at the mo, a bit of an exodus of lower leaves has been going on the past 3 or 4 days but I dont think its anything out of the norm.
and if you cobble them all together it looks a little like this
I filled a res up with ec1.3 plus 5mls per liter PK13/14 bringing it up to ec1.4, I`ve been doing some leaf tucking today, tho I need to get to my hole in the screen to tuck the difficult to reach leaves.
Cheers, Toke
Looking smart as buddy!¬)
Are you using a Carbo supliment man?, im gonna on my next next run, i aint buying the Canna Boost at £65 its gone too dear for my liking they can stick where the sun dont shine, i aint paying that! Good luck Dude, its swell time!
Btw, This Time i see that the Colas are the perfect size for this stage of the bloom phase, & you have a v-good spread of even tops per m2, i think all you need now is some swell and your in big time bro, V-nice work Toke, Im green with envy!
A little trick i employed to make an even more even spread was to tie the tops into position onto the screen.
Are you using a Carbo supliment man?, im gonna on my next next run, i aint buying the Canna Boost at £65 its gone too dear for my liking they can stick where the sun dont shine, i aint paying that! Good luck Dude, its swell time!
Btw, This Time i see that the Colas are the perfect size for this stage of the bloom phase, & you have a v-good spread of even tops per m2, i think all you need now is some swell and your in big time bro, V-nice work Toke, Im green with envy!
A little trick i employed to make an even more even spread was to tie the tops into position onto the screen.
not checked in on this for a week and what a difference 
looking bang on target ts no need to worry man .... this just makes me wanna start up again real soon (mild jealousy) lol keep up the good work ts
looking bang on target ts no need to worry man .... this just makes me wanna start up again real soon (mild jealousy) lol keep up the good work ts 
perfect!
puff puff pass
puff puff pass
Hey thanks all. I`ll keep posting details and pics, its getting exciting now.
Yeah Scrogger, I`ve got a lot of the bitches tied in place, and if any more get unruly they`ll get the same treatment. Its looking dense in the canopy, so glad I cut out nearly 2/3`s of the tops!
What do you mean by the Carbo supplement? Like Molasses? If so I haven`t given any, but thinking about giving some to them, and thinking of giving some for the first week of the 2 week flush I`m going to put em through, what do you think mate? (anyone else too of course) Just been a bit worried about upsetting the balance of things. The Arma`s yielded well with no addy`s, final weight not in yet though, its just having the bottoms harvested now.
Yeah Rocket, get it on dude.
Guais,, thanks mate. . . . . puffs, smiles and passes it on
Cheers for now, Toke
Yeah Scrogger, I`ve got a lot of the bitches tied in place, and if any more get unruly they`ll get the same treatment. Its looking dense in the canopy, so glad I cut out nearly 2/3`s of the tops!
What do you mean by the Carbo supplement? Like Molasses? If so I haven`t given any, but thinking about giving some to them, and thinking of giving some for the first week of the 2 week flush I`m going to put em through, what do you think mate? (anyone else too of course) Just been a bit worried about upsetting the balance of things. The Arma`s yielded well with no addy`s, final weight not in yet though, its just having the bottoms harvested now.
Yeah Rocket, get it on dude.
Guais,, thanks mate. . . . . puffs, smiles and passes it on
Cheers for now, Toke
Toke that looks splendid mate! The tent is also looking the picture of health... You have some very fine strains running right there. Your right about that grapefruit being the frosty one... I like the look of them all
Talking about sugar/ carb supplements I am doing a trial in the nutrient forum with Bud Candy vs Molasses, Raw Cane Juice & Malt extract (some of the main ingredients in Bud Candy). Been reading alot about the effects all the ingredients have on plants for a few days now... Have nosey when u get a min, and I don't remember seeing you over at my new grow lol... Just playin... have a look over there too
Talking about sugar/ carb supplements I am doing a trial in the nutrient forum with Bud Candy vs Molasses, Raw Cane Juice & Malt extract (some of the main ingredients in Bud Candy). Been reading alot about the effects all the ingredients have on plants for a few days now... Have nosey when u get a min, and I don't remember seeing you over at my new grow
lol... Just playin... have a look over there too Yeah, I`ll be keeping an eye on your experiment mate, I`ll be very interested to see what results you get.
I re-jigged the frankenstien pic of my grow.
The new cuts are rooting nicely into beer cups. From these I`ll select mothers for keepers. I`m also thinking of 8 of these for the two grow tents. The only problem is going to be keeping them small enough but in good health for another 4-5 weeks. One tent is free now, the other is at the same stage as the Arma`s in my grow. If the 8 plants can be brought on to the right point as the other tent is finished it`d be perfect as my mate wants to run the two tents on the same schedule, making it easier for feeding etc. So it`d be 4to 6 weeks in one tent for all 8 plants with the aim of getting them ready for the screen and splitting them up, 4 per tent.
I`m trying to decide when to take my cuts for my next grow. I envisage it being 6 weeks before I can put them in place of the current grow, and that`ll be a swift turn around at that, but I need to run to that timing for other reasons. It takes upto 2 weeks to root up in the jiffy pucks, leaving 4 weeks in the veg cuppboard if I take them around now.
Cheers Toke
I re-jigged the frankenstien pic of my grow.
The new cuts are rooting nicely into beer cups. From these I`ll select mothers for keepers. I`m also thinking of 8 of these for the two grow tents. The only problem is going to be keeping them small enough but in good health for another 4-5 weeks. One tent is free now, the other is at the same stage as the Arma`s in my grow. If the 8 plants can be brought on to the right point as the other tent is finished it`d be perfect as my mate wants to run the two tents on the same schedule, making it easier for feeding etc. So it`d be 4to 6 weeks in one tent for all 8 plants with the aim of getting them ready for the screen and splitting them up, 4 per tent.
I`m trying to decide when to take my cuts for my next grow. I envisage it being 6 weeks before I can put them in place of the current grow, and that`ll be a swift turn around at that, but I need to run to that timing for other reasons. It takes upto 2 weeks to root up in the jiffy pucks, leaving 4 weeks in the veg cuppboard if I take them around now.
Cheers Toke
JohnnyHopkins
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Might I ask..... Why is pear-shaped bad?
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Lol'er, Pear Shaped, The term is a very british term man & mean things are bending into a 'Bad Shape' or 'Going Wrong', Lmao bro, very common term in the UK used nationally, ie, England, Wales, Scotland, Not sure about Northern Ireland-never been!.
Anyway Toke yeah the Carbs, well its Now that they need the carbs imo, i know people use Mollasses toward the end & i think the first week of a 2 week flush is a very good idea bro, i was gonna sugest Carbo Load, but i might get laughed off IC as its mostly made of Mollasses anyway, so i believe. & like Shhh sugested BudCandy which has a few more added ingredients. The way i see things and ill certainly be using a Carb suppliment on my next grow indoor is in mid Bloom is the time that the plants need the Carbs, Amino's etc the Most, when a week or two after the stretch period has finished and Buds are swelling up. This is the time that plants are needing a Carbo boost imo, to help them Swell-up. From all the reading ive done & previously using the Canna Boost i think im on the right track here. plants make Sugars & use them for energy not too unsimilar to the way we use sugary Carbs, Same with Runners BodyBuiders etc etc. Plants need these sugars(Simple Carbs) too!
Its all your looking for now, BudSwell, so a Carbo Supp is just gonna help the plant accomplish this. Looking good Bro!
Peace.......Scroger!
Thats one thing i aint seen here, a thread on Carbs? im sure there probably is one somewhere, maybe one should be started if not!
Anyway Toke yeah the Carbs, well its Now that they need the carbs imo, i know people use Mollasses toward the end & i think the first week of a 2 week flush is a very good idea bro, i was gonna sugest Carbo Load, but i might get laughed off IC as its mostly made of Mollasses anyway, so i believe. & like Shhh sugested BudCandy which has a few more added ingredients. The way i see things and ill certainly be using a Carb suppliment on my next grow indoor is in mid Bloom is the time that the plants need the Carbs, Amino's etc the Most, when a week or two after the stretch period has finished and Buds are swelling up. This is the time that plants are needing a Carbo boost imo, to help them Swell-up. From all the reading ive done & previously using the Canna Boost i think im on the right track here. plants make Sugars & use them for energy not too unsimilar to the way we use sugary Carbs, Same with Runners BodyBuiders etc etc. Plants need these sugars(Simple Carbs) too!
Its all your looking for now, BudSwell, so a Carbo Supp is just gonna help the plant accomplish this. Looking good Bro!
Peace.......Scroger!
Thats one thing i aint seen here, a thread on Carbs? im sure there probably is one somewhere, maybe one should be started if not!
BudCandy!
BudCandy!
I was Looking at all the ingredients in Budcandy, who they making this stuff for,-"BodyBuiders"? It has 21 Amino Acids, in the L-Form, like L-Glutamine, which i used to use back when i used to do weights-Yes i used to weight train, did it for years & loved it, id like to start again soon!
& its Full of Sugery carbs too. Cane juice etc. I think im gonna try this along with the Bud Ignightor on my next run, of course ill be doing a showthread. its Gonna Be SwissCheese & UkCheese. Ive only added the SwissCheese because ive found an interesting Pheno, well 2 actually, beautiful they are, be a cool comparison, thinking of going Modular Scrog but i might just throw them under one screen like you buddy! Anyway Good luck with the Swell Mate!
BudCandy!
I was Looking at all the ingredients in Budcandy, who they making this stuff for,-"BodyBuiders"? It has 21 Amino Acids, in the L-Form, like L-Glutamine, which i used to use back when i used to do weights-Yes i used to weight train, did it for years & loved it, id like to start again soon!
& its Full of Sugery carbs too. Cane juice etc. I think im gonna try this along with the Bud Ignightor on my next run, of course ill be doing a showthread. its Gonna Be SwissCheese & UkCheese. Ive only added the SwissCheese because ive found an interesting Pheno, well 2 actually, beautiful they are, be a cool comparison, thinking of going Modular Scrog but i might just throw them under one screen like you buddy! Anyway Good luck with the Swell Mate!
Hey guys.
Jonnyhopkins, heh heh, yeah well I guess I`d be happy with pear shaped buds so long as they`re fat and swollen
Thanks for dropping by Cannabislover.
Scrogger, hey dude, yeah carbs, I want by girls to lift some weight soon, so I guess carbs is gonna help em out. I cant afford any addy`s this grow, I`m strapped this time around, but I do have a couple of jars of Pure Blackstrap Molasses. I`m not really sure what strength to add to the nutrient mix as it raises ec considerably. The other worry I have is that it has a Nitrogen content to it and I`m not sure that its good to add this to the Canna A+B I`m thiking of dropping the ec by 0.2 and adding the same strength back in dissolved Molasses. Do you think this sounds about right. I know last time I looked into this, the recommended dose, ie tablespoons to liters, came out around ec0.3. The other question I find myself pondering is how to make up the nutrient mix as regards the make up of the overall ec.
I`m currently going with Canna A+B to ec1.3 with Canna PK13/14 added at 5mls per 10liters making a total of ec1.4.
Its time to step up the PK13/14 for the Arma`s as they`re roughly 3 weeks from the finish, thought I`d go with 10mls per 10lts, 2/3`s dose as you suggest. So am I best to drop the A+B to accommodate any addy`s, ie PK and Molasses and keep the strength at ec1.4. Or should I let this rise a little more for this final nutrient week on the Arma`s? What do you reckon bro, bearing in mind I dont wanna be adding too much N, I want these girls to be losing colour in the leaves come the harvest. Let me know what you think Scrogger, I`m keen to get on with the Carbo application.
I`m going to have to add two extra feed lines to one of my res feed loops, and block a couple off in the other res`s loop, so that I can apply different feeds to the 9 Armageddons, to what the 4 Grapefruits and 2 Big Buds will continue to get, because the Arma`s are heading towards the finishing straight and the GF`s and BB`s are going to be a couple of weeks behind them and as a result are going to have different requirements.
Cheers, Toke
Jonnyhopkins, heh heh, yeah well I guess I`d be happy with pear shaped buds so long as they`re fat and swollen
Thanks for dropping by Cannabislover.
Scrogger, hey dude, yeah carbs, I want by girls to lift some weight soon, so I guess carbs is gonna help em out.
I cant afford any addy`s this grow, I`m strapped this time around, but I do have a couple of jars of Pure Blackstrap Molasses. I`m not really sure what strength to add to the nutrient mix as it raises ec considerably. The other worry I have is that it has a Nitrogen content to it and I`m not sure that its good to add this to the Canna A+B I`m thiking of dropping the ec by 0.2 and adding the same strength back in dissolved Molasses. Do you think this sounds about right. I know last time I looked into this, the recommended dose, ie tablespoons to liters, came out around ec0.3. The other question I find myself pondering is how to make up the nutrient mix as regards the make up of the overall ec.I`m currently going with Canna A+B to ec1.3 with Canna PK13/14 added at 5mls per 10liters making a total of ec1.4.
Its time to step up the PK13/14 for the Arma`s as they`re roughly 3 weeks from the finish, thought I`d go with 10mls per 10lts, 2/3`s dose as you suggest. So am I best to drop the A+B to accommodate any addy`s, ie PK and Molasses and keep the strength at ec1.4. Or should I let this rise a little more for this final nutrient week on the Arma`s? What do you reckon bro, bearing in mind I dont wanna be adding too much N, I want these girls to be losing colour in the leaves come the harvest. Let me know what you think Scrogger, I`m keen to get on with the Carbo application.
I`m going to have to add two extra feed lines to one of my res feed loops, and block a couple off in the other res`s loop, so that I can apply different feeds to the 9 Armageddons, to what the 4 Grapefruits and 2 Big Buds will continue to get, because the Arma`s are heading towards the finishing straight and the GF`s and BB`s are going to be a couple of weeks behind them and as a result are going to have different requirements.
Cheers, Toke
Tablespoons to gallons bro not litres thats 4 litres per tbs(15grams)! and id think like feed feed-water, so with the water irrigation, or try to slot it in inbetween, but i dont run Coco so maybe someone else can help you on that one bro, im gonna use it for my soil grows, same, Feed-feed-Water, & i was gonna put it in the water irrigation on its own. I was speaking to my buddy Hazy Lady & she uses Coco & thats how she irrigates Coco, feed -feed water because of salt accumilation, whats your thoughts here man?
On the PK id lower the A+B just a bit to accomadate for the EC rise. You want it to go up a little but just put ther EC where you want it bro! plus this way your taking the N down but also everything else! Wish i run Coco, im gonna give it a try just now & you can give us a hand then Toke ol Buddy!
On the PK id lower the A+B just a bit to accomadate for the EC rise. You want it to go up a little but just put ther EC where you want it bro! plus this way your taking the N down but also everything else! Wish i run Coco, im gonna give it a try just now & you can give us a hand then Toke ol Buddy!
i was thinking of running just a Micro nutrient blend with PK & a carb or Mollasses 3 weeks from the end to get rid of as much N etc as i could, but never got round to doing it, might on the next run!
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JohnnyHopkins
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HAHA! I always get thrown off by those british terms..... yall r crazy 
This is my 50th post lets have a sesh!
This is my 50th post lets have a sesh!
Mmm interesting one that. The plants just finished harvesting the bottoms of, in tent 1, flushed for a week, it was all good, but still green in the leaf, the stuff harvested after 2 weeks flush, the leaves were turning and losing colour nicely. I dont want to take any risks with these plants in my garden, but I wondder where there needs actually lie at the stage after the final week of PK13/14. Do they need some ferts to carry on the valuable build up of bud size for any length of time after the last week of PK13/14, will Molasses on its own provide this, or is a complete flush the answer in order to get them to start cannibalizing there own sugar`s and turn the lovely yellow colour that you like to see only at this stage of the grow?
The plants in tent 1, the bottoms that have just been chopped, certainly have`nt struggled to find what it takes to swell up really well after 2 weeks flush with plain ph`d tap water.
Yeah Scrogger, my thoughts on the feeding with Coco, is that I think you waste days feeding when going feed, feed water, as coco is pretty inert. I could be wrong, or not the only right
, but I think the way to keep nutrient salt build ups down is to drain to waste with a decent run off each feed. It defo works, if you dont give em enough they get tip burn, if you give them plenty they look as healthy as, and the proof is in the run off readings.Yeah dude, you`ll get all the help I can offer for sure.
Hey Jonny, yeah we`re pretty fucked up over here, long history of madness over here
Cheers Toke
Fookin `ell guys look at this Armageddon for frostyness!!
Its day35, start of week 6. The Armageddon are s`posed to be ready in 2 weeks, but I`m going to try and make them go an extra week, unless they start putting male flowers out or mould becomes a real issue. The Grapefruit, I`m really hoping comes good after 9 weeks, I have a bit of deadline/schedule to stick to this time around.
I`ve just applied PK13/14 at the strongest dose that I`ll be giving them, as Scrogger suggested, 2/3`s strength, 10mls per 10lts. The Grapefruit are getting PK13/14 at 5mls per 10lts, 1/3 dosage, I`ll be stepping this up to 10mls per 10lts in a weeks time.
The 3 Armageddon that I put into flower under a 200w envirolight a couple of weeks early and put at the edge of the screen there after should be finishing in 4 days, but to be honest they dont look to be doing much in the way of packing weight on. I didn`t expect too much from these plants, being under a 200w for the 1st 2 weeks of flower then being at the edge of the lights, but I did expect them to bulk up a bit, they just dont seem to be doing much, all a bit disappointing really. I hope the ones in the screen do a lot better when it comes to bulking out.
The screen is looking good though and the colas are forming well, though they still have some way to go yet of course.
I`m going to start applying some Molasses tmro. I thought I`d give a ltr of Molasses solution a couple of hours before, and separate from the scheduled res feed. I`ve been busy the last few days so haven`t been able to get around to this, and I`m not prepared to add it to a res because of the bloody mess it leaves behind.
Cheers for now, Toke
Its day35, start of week 6. The Armageddon are s`posed to be ready in 2 weeks, but I`m going to try and make them go an extra week, unless they start putting male flowers out or mould becomes a real issue. The Grapefruit, I`m really hoping comes good after 9 weeks, I have a bit of deadline/schedule to stick to this time around.
I`ve just applied PK13/14 at the strongest dose that I`ll be giving them, as Scrogger suggested, 2/3`s strength, 10mls per 10lts. The Grapefruit are getting PK13/14 at 5mls per 10lts, 1/3 dosage, I`ll be stepping this up to 10mls per 10lts in a weeks time.
The 3 Armageddon that I put into flower under a 200w envirolight a couple of weeks early and put at the edge of the screen there after should be finishing in 4 days, but to be honest they dont look to be doing much in the way of packing weight on. I didn`t expect too much from these plants, being under a 200w for the 1st 2 weeks of flower then being at the edge of the lights, but I did expect them to bulk up a bit, they just dont seem to be doing much, all a bit disappointing really. I hope the ones in the screen do a lot better when it comes to bulking out.
The screen is looking good though and the colas are forming well, though they still have some way to go yet of course.
I`m going to start applying some Molasses tmro. I thought I`d give a ltr of Molasses solution a couple of hours before, and separate from the scheduled res feed. I`ve been busy the last few days so haven`t been able to get around to this, and I`m not prepared to add it to a res because of the bloody mess it leaves behind.
Cheers for now, Toke
