150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[HeadyPete]

Hey captain, sorry, I haven't been around in a bit.

At the moment I am not growing, but am content to get my joy from my friend BonsaiGrowers' SCROG (s). He has got the production machine dialed in for results. You can see his 150 tent here in this thread or search his name and follow his sig to see his 400w cab as well.

My plans include a 7'x7'x7' grow space with a 400W hps, mother chamber and clone/veg chamber. I like the option of growing a couple plants larger, or flowering a couple different strains at once.

I do have a 150 w grow box (in my gallery) that I used in the past and may use to get a quick batch flowering before my room is complete.

Scrog is the way to go if you have limited space and good lighting. You'd be surprised how 1 or 2 plants can overgrow your space with budz, if properly trained/SCROGed.

Take care and be safe.

 

[sugabear_II]

I’ve been thinking about growing in a small partition of my closet for a while now. I have a few ideas for keeping it stealth and such. I was thinking about doing maybe 1 or 2? DWC Scrog's, but I am not sure what lighting I should use for my small spacing. Would a 150w HPS do the job for me?? Here are my dimensions/layout what do you guys think?





I haven’t figured out what I am going to do for air intake, and c02(is co2 really necessary?)

I defiantly want to integrate a carbon scrubber, and a really silent exhaust fan that leads up to my attic and out the window about 10' or so away, anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

Hey myth0s,

I calculate your square footage to be 1' 5" x 1' 8" = 17" x 20" = 340 square inches divided by 144 square inches per square foot = 2.36 square feet. This is an ideal space for the 150 and will give you 63 or so watts per square foot.

I think your setup looks nice and stealthy as well. I remember I guy who did a pretty sweet closet setup like that.

I think two plants in DWC will fit well in there or one bigger one. It will be hard to figure out how to split the screens if you do two DWC plants as your space is pretty square but you could always do two rectangular screens 1' 5" x 10" and split the area that way.

Bulenath has a pretty sweet thread on using a panasonic whisper fan to exhaust with built in carbon scrubber. This is probably the best option for quite and effective exhausting of your space.

One thing to remember about exhausting outside is that you will be dumping heat outside. This is not a problem if you live in a warm place but if you live in an area where it is cold outside for a portion of the year the warm exhaust can create problems with melting snow and just the appearance of heat escaping like a dryer vent 24/7 can become a problem. If you have your carbon scrubber working properly you can exhaust back into the living space thereby saving the heat from being lost - I know large scale growers who get most of their heat from the grow lamps being exhausted through carbon back into the house and the furnace rarely gets run.

I personally intake and exhaust back into same room that I also sleep in - by doing this the plants add moisture to the air and oxygen and I breath the oxygen and in turn expel CO2 back into the air - it is a symbiotic relationship

CO2 enrichment is not really required but can be added - pipedream has a link to a simple way of doing this on page 1 of this thread.

Good luck and keep it green and safe !

-suga

 

[papertime]

so i bought this hps light and just left it as it was just wiring it to a heavy duty male extension

cordhttp://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=42543-290-MFL150HPSRC&lpage=none

i have a fan on it and good vent. its about 16" from plants but im getting temps around 84*f. is 16" far enough away? also i took the glass covering off and wondering if this is directing the heat right to my plants? would it be better to put it back on?

 

[papertime]

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=42543-290-MFL150HPSRC&lpage=none

here it is

 

[BonsaiGrower]

and then again you can always fart in your cab to raise Co2 levels...lol I just loved reading that here once.

Peace to the 150 watters

 

[Pipedream]

Taking the glass off or leaving it on is always a trade-off. If you leave it on, it blocks some of the available light along with the heat. Remove it, more light and less heat directed down. Our 150's are fairly small lamps so I think keeping light output to a maximum is the way to go. See if you can bring the temps down a few degrees, but if not don't worry too much. I often grow in the high 80's with no problems. Besides, some strains actually prefer the higher temps if that's what they were originally grown in.

 

[papertime]

any good ideas for getting the sob to hang right? the way i got it right now is pretty ghetto. good stuff pipedream ty.

 

[Pipedream]

Get some pictures up, even if they're poor quality or cellphone type. Once it can be seen, I'll bet one of the members will have some good ideas to help out.

 

[vintner]

http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EProductDetail.asp?ProductFamilyID=7&FGNumber=E-MT6H151G
I was given this link in another thread. Check out these awesome prices! Do you think this light can be mounted horizintally?

 

[sugabear_II]

vintner many foks use the e-conolight 150s, they are the cheapest out there - in fact you'll find the same link on page 1 of this thread. The e-conolight ones can be remoted and mounted horizontally. The 150 is generally a universal position bulb.

papertime you will probably need to have 2-4 points to attach the chains to the housing as well as 2-4 hooks up top to hang the chains from - that way you can adjust the orientation.

 

[vintner]

Sugar: Thanks for the info and the quick responce. I'm pretty new here, and I've been doing so much reading that I must have browsed right over that link. My present set up is pretty getto, and my plans for a micro cab probably wont be started untill I move over a year from now. That's mainly what I'd like the 150 for. I've got pleanty of time to do research here and get my plans and design all thought out, but at those prices, I don't see any reason not to start gathering the equipment I'll need early.
Vin

 

[papertime]

no disrespect to the 150, but would it be better to veg under (6400k) 27w cfls?

 

[Black Ra1n]

It's finally done...

It's finally done...

Hey all, finally finished my cabinet. I only have my seedlings in it right now, but I'm awaiting a nice m39 clone from a good friend. Love this thread it has helped out a lot.





B/R

 

[old dude]

you all watch out for sugar bear, he will have you growing baseball size colas..........

Hi buddy...............

 

[jasonk]

So here I am sitting at approximately day 15 flowering. I fist noticed hairs yesterday, and Im pretty confident this is a lady I have The question now is, will she stay female or will she hermie like her mother did? We shall wait and see. I think I will be quite pleased with the results, as this was just a fun grow while my cab came together with some seeds I hermied by accident. Ive only been using 5-10-5 Fish Emulsion so far. Heres a few pictures, some at about day 10 some from today(day 15). Sorry about the quality...

Ive been takign out all small budsites still forming in the lower crotches. Should I be thinning out some fan leaves yet? If so which ones?

Day10:




Day 15:

 

[sugabear_II]

no disrespect to the 150, but would it be better to veg under (6400k) 27w cfls?

actually I use and recommend the (cool blue) daylight floros for veg as do a few others around here. They help to keep the plant nice and squat in veg. Then into the 150 cab which is perpetually on 12/12.

Black Ra1n that is one slick looking cabinet man - nice and clean classic NGB style - very nice! what size is the flower area and what did you use for ventilation?

old dude nice to see you stopping by old friend - hang out for a while and watch the show and of course feel free to chime in with your knowledge. I know before long you'll be thinking about what a nice little cabinet could do for you

hey jasonk it sure is bushy - I hope she turns out to be pure female but she may show some hermie tendencies - how bad was the mom? and was this a seed from the hermie mom?

suga

 

[jasonk]

I hope so too, but its not a big loss to me if not. The mom was hermie from stress bringing outdoors to in and/or a couple blackouts. The mom had some lower buds that were mostly seed and a couple seeds in the top buds.

 

[Guest]

damn it's good to see you guys are holdin' it down still, 150 power!

 

[Pipedream]

Hey all.
I just wrote this up to post as a new thread. I thought it was worthwhile and as such I figured I post it here as well for all of the "150 Members & Friends"

Sterilizing Rock-Wool Starter Medium.
So yesterdayI took a run down to the local University Extension Service greenhouse/lab. I’ve gone there many times over the years and they’re always glad to help out whenever a gardener has a problem. They do free soil and water testing, and will even do basic tissue analysis of an ailing plant, legal ones of course. They had sent me an email saying they were having a Spring Start-Up Seminar on True Organic Growing. It was a good basic lesson, but little of it lent itself to what we do here. However, afterwards I took a walk thru their production facility and talked to a few lab workers and did pick up one very good tip to pass along. Here’s what I observed and learned…

One of the biologists/botanists was setting seeds in small rock-wool cubes for germination. It was done much like you would expect, except for one additional step. After the cubes had been soaked overnight in PH appropriate buffered-water, they were put in a microwave oven for 30 seconds, then allowed to cool down, prior to the seed being introduced. Asked why, here’s the response I got.

“Rock-Wool is an ideal growing medium for both plants and pathogens. Because of the high heat used in its manufacturing process, it starts life totally sterile. However, from that point on, it is exposed to open air and a host of organisms that can potentially settle in its fibers. Once moisture and warmth are added to the medium, those organisms have a perfect breeding place. Everyone is always concerned with the sterility of his or her own growing systems. They wash their pots and system equipment in bleaches and soaps to clean them, but they seldom do the same for the growing medium, which is the most important part. By placing the damp “rock-wool” in the microwave for 30 seconds, we can effectively kill over 99% of all bacteria and other pathogens without adversely affecting the medium itself. It gives our seeds the best possible chance at a good start, especially if we are trying to do a Two-Group Control type growing test”

OK, granted, our needs don’t come close to those at the lab. However, this is such a simple thing to do, and it doesn’t cost anything. It’s a practice that I’ll be using going forward, and one that I thought was worth passing along.

Regards to all. PD

RW Cubes Being Sterilized in New "Tortilla" Germination Tray

 

[HeadyPete]

and then again you can always fart in your cab to raise Co2 levels...lol I just loved reading that here once.

Peace to the 150 watters

That was Yummybuds' line that someone nicked for their sig....I thought farts were mostly methane, though.....

Seems like we need an experiment and a lengthy thread to determine the atmospheric makeup of a fart.