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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
Given that I have pretty decent genetics with the named strains should I even bother with the crappy bagseed? I was thinking of dropping 10 beans and doing a small 6 plant SOG (all female). What if this crappy bagseed just needed some love to be something special? I would definitely like to experiment with it.

Any suggestions?

If you could grow out all 100 seeds, you might find some magic. Then again you might find nothing worth mentioning. I've grown bag beans from Mexico and still had clear trichs at 16 weeks flower! If I had taken it 20 weeks, I might have had something stronger. But who wants 20 week strains in small quarters? Certainly not me.

Most of this brick weed grows giant, fluffy buds. If it isn't compressed, there's not a truck big enough to haul it, lol. But some of it has that racy, highland sativa stone that many of us favor vs indica or indica dominant hybrids.

15 days veg, lol. This is the large plastic coffee can, almost a gallon of soil. Really huge considering the age...



Here's some compressed big fluff, I had 3 expressions from 4 females. One was actually dense and smelled like garlic and onions. Not my favorite smell but it tasted dank.



Here's some Mexican that wasn't compressed. This is the stuff that went 16 weeks. 20 weeks might have been the dif between weed light and weed right


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We didn't get Colombian weed in my parts until ~1974. Before that, most all commercial was Mexican. Average price per pound was $90, $12.50 per ounce. Many pounds came compressed in a ~5" cube.

Back then, the coolest dealers had moral objections to getting rich on pot sales. If you were greedy then, you sold cocaine. There just wasn't the room for weed markup unless you bought it by the ton.

Paraphernalia shops were a rarity, other than pipes and papers at the convenience store. Get a load of the typical water bong of the day...



I found a bamboo thicket and thought I'd show you what the parents might have smoked from.



If you've ever seen Genuine Plastic Wood at the hardware store, this is the stuff that artists used to glue the down stem and seal the water joint. They started with a giant blob of plastic wood, let it harden and carve what they wanted. I've seen hooded cobras with the fangs, giant breasts, almost anything imaginable could be carved and hand painted.

We went from these to acrylic (plastic) and eventually glass. I've spent some big bucks on glass. It's disappointing when they don't smoke as good as bamboo. The diameter of the bamboo down stem is key, right size = perfect draw.
 

jpizle

Member
Sweet bamboo bong pics Disco, reminds me of one I made in high school before I could buy a nice glass. Way too young to know anything about $90 a pound commercial though. :eek:

I have to respectfully disagree with the majority here though. My last(and first) grow was with bagseed(decent though, not total dirt) and the end result was far superior to the bud the seeds came from. Like way better, and thats with me not knowing what I was doing and the plants were hermies(about 12 seeds out of an oz harvested). So I think an experienced grower could make bagseed into something special.

Just MHO

Pizle
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
Sweet bamboo bong pics Disco, reminds me of one I made in high school before I could buy a nice glass. Way too young to know anything about $90 a pound commercial though. :eek:

Lol, you ain't missing a thang excepting Acapulco Gold, Oaxacan and Michuacan, etc. These are the pride of Mexico [and] growers and smokers worldwide.

I have to respectfully disagree with the majority here though. My last(and first) grow was with bagseed(decent though, not total dirt) and the end result was far superior to the bud the seeds came from. Like way better, and thats with me not knowing what I was doing and the plants were hermies(about 12 seeds out of an oz harvested). So I think an experienced grower could make bagseed into something special.

Just MHO

Pizle
Then you're a good grower to do this the first time around. Even diesel and kush can be lackluster if chopped too early.

Thanks for the insight, many growers share your results. I just pulled a mystery seedling out of a green crack in flower. It could be one of the bag beans I tried with no success. Then again, it could be Williams Wonder.:watchplant:

IMO, middies are far more reliable than compressed dirt weed. I'd grow middies just to see what happens. But I'm in remote, rural America and all we get is swag. That's why I started growing. Now I'm more addicted growing than smoking (but not by much.):)

Even if you're lucky with the source beans, selection can and does make the difference. Worked strains narrow expression variants but one can expect greatness. Mystery beans just excite the possibility of something we've yet to sample.

And then there's swag like compressed dirt weed. Selection is even more important when 90 of 100 seeds might grow 20 to 25 week bunk.

But I'll say this... line up all the best. If it turns out you're prouder of bag seed than pedigree, it's all the more satisfying.
 

chronichydro

New member
150 HPS venting

150 HPS venting

sorry if im posting in the wrong place but no one answered me on the other thread ....ive got a cabinet im gonna rig up for a flowering area like NGB's cab but the fan is not gonna work for me its too loud...cab measures 30"L 20"W AND 30"H I'll put a rubbermaid tub in there with 2 plants for a scrog and im hoping i can cool the cab with a 150 HPS using quieter muffin fans with those small coffee filter scrubbers on them for odours...my question is do these fans vent enough through the scrubbers to keep temps down....bigger fans mean more noise and i have to avoid that...should i just scrap the HPS and go with CFL's?
 

MagicChef

Member
Grow box! Your plants (ladies) are nice, but I like the one bending over in the panties personally. No rudeness intended! Compliment!


Ive got a question about editting a thread. I started one the other day but realized I made an error in the thread TITLE and cant figure out how to change it.. Anyone know?
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
sorry if im posting in the wrong place but no one answered me on the other thread ....ive got a cabinet im gonna rig up for a flowering area like NGB's cab but the fan is not gonna work for me its too loud...cab measures 30"L 20"W AND 30"H I'll put a rubbermaid tub in there with 2 plants for a scrog and im hoping i can cool the cab with a 150 HPS using quieter muffin fans with those small coffee filter scrubbers on them for odours...my question is do these fans vent enough through the scrubbers to keep temps down....bigger fans mean more noise and i have to avoid that...should i just scrap the HPS and go with CFL's?

Hey chronichydro, what's the diameter and cfm rating on the fan(s) you want to use. What's the dB or dBa rating?

You can slow your existing fan with a lesser voltage adapter. It'll have to provide the mA rating on the fan. It's best not to exceed ~80% capacity of the adapter.

I can't venture a guess about the fan working with a scrubber. If you have pics or an address to the fans you plan to use, drop us a link. Some 120mm fans are decent but I've yet to scrub with one.
 

kjz71521

Member
I got a chance to get a hold of the computer and slap up some pics here to da IC.. Heres the 150w vert ngb prepetual buddsikkle factory I promised..:dance013:....
I rebuilt my old skool 70'z house bar and this is the result. I grew in the bar when I first got it, but it was a whole. If you check my name I have pics of the way it was last cycle. With a lil urb and Doc'z thread in site, I was like shhiiit my next grow is gonna be better, air tight,light tight and passive.. So rebuit and hope my nugz come out exxtra tasty.. I have clones of what I ran my last cycle & that included $trawberry blu,grape krush,jackflash & whiteberry but I didnt lab le the babyz...{Newb +Stoner move}.. EnJoY..:joint::rasta::greenstars:
 

GrowBox420

Member
Grow box! Your plants (ladies) are nice, but I like the one bending over in the panties personally. No rudeness intended! Compliment!


Ive got a question about editting a thread. I started one the other day but realized I made an error in the thread TITLE and cant figure out how to change it.. Anyone know?


Thanks man about the 3 ladies I might get some more pics the girls love there pics taken lol.

I dont know how to change the thread title but if you find it out could you get back to me.

I got desperate and ran out of nugs so I chopped off a piece of the Cheeze and smoked a wet bowl.... shouldnt of done it but oh well it was needed I mellowed out a little which is what I smoke for.
 

Pipedream

Proudly Growing My Own Since 1969
Veteran
:rasta:

Good morning friends and fellow growers. Been away quite a bit lately, and it's good to see the thread so active with lots of new faces and photos.

In spite of my absence from here, I've been busy in the garden with my latest crop. I'm doing an old-school Sea-of-Green, something I haven't done in well over 20 years I'd guess. My box is in my semi-unheated garage, and with the bitter weather we are experiencing in the North-East, maintaining temps has been a challenge. My light goes on at night and warms up the box nicely, but during the day I've been forced to run a small electric heater to keep everything at an acceptable level. As a result the electric bill has gone up about a buck a day.

I'm in the fourth week of flower right now and have a sixteen females all tightly grouped directly under the center of the light. Each plant has a single stalk/cola, and it appears they will each produce a six to seven inch bud. Unlike previous grows in which my light stayed fixed to the top of the box, I've lowered it on a cable and am keeping it very close to the plants.

Change of subject.....

About my absence: It's really kind of a funny thing...about eight months ago I decided to buy my first Smart Phone, an HTC Droid. It was great and I was instantly addicted to it. In fact, just a couple of weeks later I also purchased a Netbook. (yes, it's dangerous to be retired with lots of time and extra bucks) Shortly afterwards I realized I was practically living a Starbucks, Panera, DD and anywhere else with food and free Wi-Fi. My food bill and waist line were quickly increasing, but it was so much more enjoyable than sitting in my empty home alone all day, with my wife and sons away at work.

Then one day when I walked into Starbucks, before I said anything, the Barista handed me my coffee and muffin and said "Good Morning, (my name)". At first I just smiled about it. But then as the morning passed, my thought process changed a bit. I felt like Norm on the old Cheers TV show, ever present at the bar with no life to speak of.

Over the next couple of weeks, I divorced myself from my collection of technology, including my home computers. I now spend much more time outdoors, at the library, helping my ageing in-laws, and I also volunteer a couple of days a week at a center that refurbishes old donated eyeglasses and distributes them to people that can not afford to purchase a pair. And while I do miss my contact with the '150 Crew', my old life now has new meaning. Now I will attempt to find a healthy balance between the new and old so I may spend a bit more time here with you guys.

So that's my story. Happy & Healthy New Year to all. Grow Safe and Grow Smart !

Regards, Pipedream

:rasta:
 

Baba Ku

Active member
Veteran
Wishing you the best too, Pipedream.
If you get out of balance, heres to it being the good that tips the scale.

Cheers!
 

OrgAeroMan

Well-known member
Veteran
Hey pipedream, good to have you back, I missed having such great grows and insight from you. I've pretty much read/lurked all of you threads, you rock dude. Welcome home:)
 

kjz71521

Member
Sup Pipedream,
Glad ur back bro and you ditched the pad for a bit to get out and enjoy life. I posted my pics of my new cab and I would like you to check it out.. Let me know what you think.. Happy farmin.
 

kjz71521

Member
1st set of ladyz in 12/12

1st set of ladyz in 12/12

Now is the time to add these ladys to my chamber to really make them show there s$%t..lol


Heres a pic of tha 1st set of ladyz to hit the renovated chamber in 12/12

Here they are in the chamber.


Im runnin customized smartpotz the size of a smart water bottle & the size of a 32oz sports drink bottle. im going tha good ol' Doc style.. Cant wait to see my chamber full mini SOG style like we all have came to love !!
I still have some jack flash seeds germinating to choose tha strongest,healthiest to be a mother for my prepetual style im runnin. I have two 23w 6500k cfl's & 18" 6500k t5 in the mom/clone chamber is that enough juice to take care of tha health of everyone in a 10Lx25Hx12D space..? to all you seasoned vets please let me know.:watchplant:
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
Low level light isn't so low level when your footprint is small. In fact, you've got more watts/lumens per sq foot than I do (not including your T5)

It's just a matter of which plants are in close proximity to your bulbs.

If you've already taken cuttings and simply wish to keep your mother alive, put it on the periphery of your sweet spot. If you want your mother to grow quicker so you can take cuttings, put it as close to the light as it'll take. Feed mothers half-strength nutes to keep them from taking over. If you need fast growth, feed them all they'll take w/o burn.

Seedlings, cuttings and veg plants for flower should be in close proximity of the light. As close as they can take. This minimizes low-light stretch.

The main thing is knowing the approximate time a project takes. Your project might be vegging rooted cuttings for flower. You'll get more weed if you're ready for the flip as opposed to waiting another week or three for flower-ready plants.
 
Grow Box- I love those figures. I bet you have some great chi flow in that cab :)

These ladies are 5.5 weeks in to flowering, just past six weeks today, and at least one or two of them I am thinking will get the chopperoony very soon. Let me know what you think!
The most ready


Big Bud


Years-old bagseed


These two mexican girls will take quite a while longer it seems
 

kjz71521

Member
whats up disco, were you refering that to me about the low level footprint ? i got to the point over 50 post to where I can tweak my settings now. It did not show you under my friends list.
 
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