4 phenos of todds haze for yawls perusal
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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
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4 phenos of todds haze for yawls perusal
vanilla dutch
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Man I need some of these old school haze genetics!
Awesome thread and pictures everyone
seedbay is a good start.lol
Happy Times
Well-known member
hello haze lovers,
well to make you a nice weekend...
here some progress and a teaser of SamS. new Ohz...
my pic limit is full...
one of the S1 OHz i'll made... looks like the mother
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and here tada ... SamS's last OHz... one of them as a cut...
from 12 i'll got 6 girls... all different .. but these girl is special..
will haze her with the reversed OHz girls... you never know ;-)
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what a season ... 2020 the year of da haZe return
M.
Loving all the hazes MadMac. Keep bringing the fire. I think I may dig a lot deeper in these genes over the next couple seasons.
Beautiful my friend!!! You are the man 
vanilla dutch
Active member
smoke report
smoke report
smoke report
u could always read my smoke report if u want an unbiased opinion on sams seeds
You are not entertaining nor educational
Mmmmm smells like you been here before under a different username
vanilla dutch
Active member
how u like my smoke report. about as close to haze as u can get though.sorry no plant pics.
I remember a post where todd m. mentions he prefers the smoke out of his o haze x nevile over the the o haze undiluted. This kind of surprised me since he has thousands of ohaze beans from sams stock and therefore plenty of opportunity to find the “one” with just the original haze. So perhaps he just prefers the muddier stonier effects from the ohaze x neville than the effects of original haze some of us are chasing.
Anyhow, as i mentioned in another post todd was generous with freebies and i got 17 original haze beans. Definitely going to save the males and make more beans and maybe cross to superlaos x o.haze if i can find a stable female from the pack. Or maybe cross it anyway and work to pull the intersex traits out the line later if their is something magical there.Also might save some ohaze males for (m.madness/oaxacan space) x mexican death sativa from doc d.
Edit: the super laos x o haze i mention above might actually be ohaze x super laos from bushy.
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vanilla dutch
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i liked my pack from gypsy nirvana .sams seeds are defiantly haze brother related
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I crossed 17 weeker of neville´s haze with thh male, I am sure thh can only improve it. I think that not every NH is muddier than Ohz. mostly yes, but there are some nice extreme haze phenotypes sure. it is bit strange that NH is less vigorous than Ohz though. I dont see that these hybrids, when male is used, would have something more than Ohz, I see they lacks something.
I divide the effect of haze to 3 levels or departments if you want.
1. it is mental level - psychedelic dimension, dreaming, fantasy, streaming, trance, vision, creativity, unusual ways of memorizing, overall neuroplasticity .
2. it is emotional level - ability of receiving affections - euphoria, laugh, anxiety, positive vibes, magic feelings, for rastas religious feelings, simply all kinds of feeling you have after smoking haze..
3. it is energy level - no ceiling, up lifting, electric, rushes, ringing in the ears, levitation, energetic waves, heart beating and others, simply all that body energetics.
so from I could observe, Neville´s haze for example, lacks a lot in emotional level compared to Ohz.. and also lacks a little bit at energetic level. so why not to cross it with Ohz and get interesting recombination and to eliminate unwanted properties inherited from NL. Ohz can only improve it.
I divide the effect of haze to 3 levels or departments if you want.
1. it is mental level - psychedelic dimension, dreaming, fantasy, streaming, trance, vision, creativity, unusual ways of memorizing, overall neuroplasticity .
2. it is emotional level - ability of receiving affections - euphoria, laugh, anxiety, positive vibes, magic feelings, for rastas religious feelings, simply all kinds of feeling you have after smoking haze..
3. it is energy level - no ceiling, up lifting, electric, rushes, ringing in the ears, levitation, energetic waves, heart beating and others, simply all that body energetics.
so from I could observe, Neville´s haze for example, lacks a lot in emotional level compared to Ohz.. and also lacks a little bit at energetic level. so why not to cross it with Ohz and get interesting recombination and to eliminate unwanted properties inherited from NL. Ohz can only improve it.
Beautiful my friend!!! You are the man
hazy greetings amigo!!! RESPECT.
where are these improvements from any X made with OHaze ?
Im still waiting 30 years later.
Neville's hybrids are the only improvement and far surpass the Original Haze that has been sold for the last 20 years.
Where are these famous cuts of improvements ?
Where is the far superior O Haze x sk1 , x Thai x etc etc
Sam has made Millions of seeds and where are these legendary cuts ?
Where is Sams selection of Haze ?
Does it exists ?
Or its just Neville's work that is that legendary that people still lie, cheat and steal to this day just to grab a slice of Neville's pizza
What about Sams work ? , where is it
Im still waiting 30 years later.
Neville's hybrids are the only improvement and far surpass the Original Haze that has been sold for the last 20 years.
Where are these famous cuts of improvements ?
Where is the far superior O Haze x sk1 , x Thai x etc etc
Sam has made Millions of seeds and where are these legendary cuts ?
Where is Sams selection of Haze ?
Does it exists ?
Or its just Neville's work that is that legendary that people still lie, cheat and steal to this day just to grab a slice of Neville's pizza
What about Sams work ? , where is it
look to Mac´s thread dude. and dont lie please, didnt your Godfather get his seeds from Sam? and there is titans haze cut, you know it very well. as well you know there is thunk cut in London. why did you use titans haze cut in your cross titanium, where it is such crap? why are you selling such beans to your customer, when you think neville´ s haze is better, why didnt you use it instead of titans haze? and what about OSH??? it is not famous cut in from southern Holland??? for which you would pay top dollar? it is supposed to come from Sams seeds.. OSH:
Thanks Maha Kala, always appreciate your input.
JohnnyChicago
Well-known member
Yes the hansfe cut of titans Haze is very nice, but definitely not as good as many other Hazes, especially not the old Neville cuts and even SSH,
Mango Haze , Silver Nevil , Nl5 Haze from seed etc etc.
If you would stop chatting breeze about Neville then i wouldn't even bring this up as i dont eve post in these Haze threads anymore as your Sam fanclub is to much.
So there is this titans Haze cut and a thunk cut that i never even heard of ? , what from over 10 Million seeds ?
Also where is the Original Haze clone ?
You would think there was a special clone or at least selections kept ? , but no its just a big outdoor
greenhouse that makes these Millions of O Haze and X's.
OSH clone from Sam's seed , yeah right
Where has it been the last 30 years ?
I never heard of it at all untill last years and Neville
has passed ?
And no i wouldn't pay for it ever or am eager to get it , you can buy the seeds for €400 lol from his seedbank , better be good for €400 , i not heard any noise from the seeds being sold since it was for sale along time , even a few years
All of my Haze X's are from Neville's work apart from the Titans Haze X.
Also i did the Original Haze early 2000 and made F2 and hybrids and much prefer the work Neville did.
I find it very same old , very dominant and not that interesting compared to many other Hazes .
Your the 1 who keeps talking down on Neville's varieties every day like a broken record , why do you grow them all the time, why dont you grow O Haze and make X's with them , you seem to use Neville Haze very often. Ask your friends who gave you the Neville which is better O Haze x Sk1 or any of the Neville famous cuts ?
Your the 1 who makes this sam v Neville not me but if you want to do that fine but Neville clearly won.
O Haze is very dominant and true breeding and is nice but not even close to the famous Haze cuts and even the Grail project Neville has made .
How come we dont see other Dutch companies with the same Haze Neville produced if they were all sold the same seeds ? , thats it they were not sold the same seeds clearly , they were sold seeds Sam remade in Holland and Neville was sold seeds that sam collected from the gardens in USA after the raid and he fled to Holland .
Also in the last years Thai has been eliminated from the Haze lineage story and now just Colombian is what made Haze ? , there is clearly thai in Haze 100%
Lost of changing stories and especially since Neville passed RIP and many new people turning up saying i made this ,i did that , where were they when Neville was still alive and posting ?
Even from the old dutch crew trying change history and take credit from Neville and put it on sams lap or there own, some of these guys were not even involved and i remember when they first Turned up looking for info ? , but now they are the crew ?.
If it was a contest and its not, Neville clearly won.
From the Millions of Haze seed Sam made and sold to many company's you would think we would have more than 1 Titans Haze cut and supposedly a Thunk cut i never heard of.
Mango Haze , Silver Nevil , Nl5 Haze from seed etc etc.
If you would stop chatting breeze about Neville then i wouldn't even bring this up as i dont eve post in these Haze threads anymore as your Sam fanclub is to much.
So there is this titans Haze cut and a thunk cut that i never even heard of ? , what from over 10 Million seeds ?
Also where is the Original Haze clone ?
You would think there was a special clone or at least selections kept ? , but no its just a big outdoor
greenhouse that makes these Millions of O Haze and X's.
OSH clone from Sam's seed , yeah right
Where has it been the last 30 years ?
I never heard of it at all untill last years and Neville
has passed ?
And no i wouldn't pay for it ever or am eager to get it , you can buy the seeds for €400 lol from his seedbank , better be good for €400 , i not heard any noise from the seeds being sold since it was for sale along time , even a few years
All of my Haze X's are from Neville's work apart from the Titans Haze X.
Also i did the Original Haze early 2000 and made F2 and hybrids and much prefer the work Neville did.
I find it very same old , very dominant and not that interesting compared to many other Hazes .
Your the 1 who keeps talking down on Neville's varieties every day like a broken record , why do you grow them all the time, why dont you grow O Haze and make X's with them , you seem to use Neville Haze very often. Ask your friends who gave you the Neville which is better O Haze x Sk1 or any of the Neville famous cuts ?
Your the 1 who makes this sam v Neville not me but if you want to do that fine but Neville clearly won.
O Haze is very dominant and true breeding and is nice but not even close to the famous Haze cuts and even the Grail project Neville has made .
How come we dont see other Dutch companies with the same Haze Neville produced if they were all sold the same seeds ? , thats it they were not sold the same seeds clearly , they were sold seeds Sam remade in Holland and Neville was sold seeds that sam collected from the gardens in USA after the raid and he fled to Holland .
Also in the last years Thai has been eliminated from the Haze lineage story and now just Colombian is what made Haze ? , there is clearly thai in Haze 100%
Lost of changing stories and especially since Neville passed RIP and many new people turning up saying i made this ,i did that , where were they when Neville was still alive and posting ?
Even from the old dutch crew trying change history and take credit from Neville and put it on sams lap or there own, some of these guys were not even involved and i remember when they first Turned up looking for info ? , but now they are the crew ?.
If it was a contest and its not, Neville clearly won.
From the Millions of Haze seed Sam made and sold to many company's you would think we would have more than 1 Titans Haze cut and supposedly a Thunk cut i never heard of.
