PBP users post your formula

all of you OG morons need to go hang out on high times forum not IC.

I use PBP grow and bloom, Liquid Kharma, Cal-Mag, a little Silica Blast every once in awhile, Top Max as a bloom booster every once in awhile and Overdrive as a bloom booster every so often.

Amounts and schedule, Hmmmmm, let me think about that for a bit. I am not sure how to write it out so give me a bit.

I've never had any problems with mixing cal-mag with other nutes and I have mixed it with a far share of them both organic and chem. Use it sparingly for sure as with all the ammendments.

Tex

I use my PBP with tap water, I usta let it evaporate, but now im lazy so it just goes from the tub faucet to the res with out any evap time.

Never used calmag, no need to for me I guess since im using tap.

I also dont use full strenght nutes, I just kinda guess

makes the nutes last longer

I also grow 100% hydroton drip setup for my main system

so you guys using about 1/2 strength too or more/less?

i was actually told my a rep of the company that you need to add calmag if you use ro water. i think the new bottles might even say on the label. any verify this?

super... I always step it up with the nutes...1/4..1/2...full strength.
I usually work my way up to full strength by the end of the second week.

verified!!

verified!!

Water hardness is an indication of the calcium and magnesium content. Moderately hard water, 100 to 150 mg CaC03/liter, is desirable for plant growth. If the water is very soft, less than 50 mg, you may need to provide supplemental calcium and magnesium

I use 100% hydrotron (back from Ready gro), I flood every three hours when lights on, flood once when lights off.

I start at around half strength, on veg side thats around 600ppm. Then I add nutes gradually until I hit the desired ppm which is 600ppm on the front side up to 1100-1300ppm at the end.

I do basically the same in bloom but I start at around 800ppm and ramp up from there to around 1400-1600ppm. I add my bloom booster, either overdrive or Top max, at the start of week 3 and run through the last week before flushing for at least 7 days.

I may try some Hydroplex in a few grows just to compare boosters

Tex

Great. I think I need to just up my dosage a bit and they'll be better. Thinking about adding a recirculating drip system some how to my black plastic garden buckets. right now i'm hand watering, and i have to water each of them a quart a day almont. they roots are on steroids i guess. i love using this medium. first time using the coco like this. i prefer it much better to dwc. had nothing but problems then.

I am going to try PBP pro fruit and flower for my primary bloom phase. I am already using only budswell and Indonesian bat guano for the last four weeks of bloom. I want to add TopMax and PBP in my first four weeks of bloom phase to appreciate the difference there as well.

I am phasing out my gh 3-part slowly, I think. I also use super tea for the seedling phase and initial veg phase. I am looking to PBP veg as well soon perhaps.

Informative thread.

Avid

good thread
I am looking into trying this stuff out this fall.. So keep the info and recipes coming please. Thanx for the share..peace..

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PBP nuts.

PBP nuts.

Very nice thread & the PBP line is my favorite bottled fert. & i have been using it for more than 2yrs'. It is the easiest i ve found to mix & keep the ph in acceptable range without having to add a bunch of adjuster.

Before i forget i wanted to comment on bartenders' cal/mag post. It absolutly does have some validity as i have used that cal/mag when i go with rain water or distilled & my plants do not seem to uptake their diet as well. Mabey its' just me also but this cal/mag (w/nuts.) thing definetly deserves some more research...i wont' be using it anymore with nutrients but think it is a great thing with 'stripped' water which for some crazy reason has a tendency to upset my ph in my soil mix(swings/drifts) if i use it too often w/o a suppliment..not to mention the obvious of starving my plants/depleting my soils reserve.

My soil mix is primarly promix-bx with w.c., & perlite added. I also use kelp meal & greensand & of course dolimitic garden lime. I dont feed much at all in veg but when i do i go 1/2 strength with the veg form. & use 1/4 strength LKarma.
In flowering is when i go heavy with the BotanicarePBP flower formula. I usually go full strength eow (sometimes 3rd) once the plants are full size & have started flowering. I also let the solution sit a couple days & the ph stabilizes at around 6.5 all on its own....a very nice playr' this PBP. I have gone really strong w/ the flower formula late in flowering also when the plants are really feeding well (usually around week 5 or 6) on my tds meter i get as high as 1400ppm with my nuts' in flowering. I realize that with organic nutrients it is hard to get an acurate disolved solid reading but i find the meter/pen to do fine with giving me a base line to go by with my guano teas & all. Gettn' long winded again...damn i ll leave it at that

Thanks for a nice thread ST & may everyones garden be blessed with uncontrolable fat frosty colas. Peace 3legs

Heres a few plants that i used the PBP on exclusivly thus far...ahh but guano tea is in their future very soon. I often switch around between the EJ / PBP /guano & worm c. tea / & the NH fish fert all these ferts' really work great at diff. stages in growth to help hit those huge growth spurts/bursts

PBP feeding schedule Ebb and Flow Octagon:

Using PBPGrow through veg < 500 ppm including Cal Mag and Karma as foliar. Also Hygrozyme 8 mils/gal and American Agritech Hydroguard at 15 mil/gal

PBP Bloom @ 700-800 ppm including Cal Mag, IronStar, Hydroguard week 5

PBP Bloom @ 700 ppm including Cal Mag, IronStar, Hydroplex week 6

Substitute PBPSoil (used to be called ripening) @ 650-700 ppm including Cal Mag, Ironstar and am now trying Botanicare "Sweet" which just came out, week 7

Will substitute Flora Kleen for Clearex and voila A-train is finished (AK-47 x Trainwreck)

Am using grounded pumps, but magnetic field will lockout calcuim and iron so that's why I like the Cal Mag and Ironstar. Also use American Agritechs proprietary pH down which is Hydrochloric acid and citric acid.

Really cool you guys are here!

thanks 3legdog for the input. yeah that cal/mag conundrum would make an interestin scientific experiment. hopefully growdoc will come in and shed some light on the subject.

btw- my soil mixture is 1:1:1 WCerlitero Mix. Feed em 1/4str PBP as seedlins, and slowly work my way up to full str. Sometimes ill add Liquid Karma, and/or EN/EA.

What is a good MicroNutrient solution?

peace

The only micronutrient solution i have ever bought/used is the EJ microblast. I make w.c. tea now that does a fine job with the micros & the dolimitic garden lime i powder & add to my soil mix has all sorts of nutritional values in it in addition to the lime. I haven't needed to add anything else i a long time..the microblast in the cabinet has dust on it probably. Take care bartender...everyone & have a nice weekend Peace 3legs

Oh yea that PBP line fuels the frost...smokn' this burmese now :

Question about the pure blend pro "Soil" blend.... I accidentally bought a bottle of this stuff instead of the bloom. Will I be able to use it as my base nute sauce? or should I probably go buy a bottle of that now too?

some of the other organic goodies i picked up are

Ozi Magic Gro Juice Monsta Bud

Liquid Karma

Calmag plus

and Botanicare Sweet


i'm growing in a 4x4 ebb/flow in pure hydroton using tap water..

Hopefully next weekend I will start testing these out.

thanks!

THC

I just started my use of PBP Fruit & Flower. I also picked up a bottle opf Cal-Mag plus as noted on the bottle.

I first went to strong and had to reduce my nut's by 50%;i.e. removed half and added ro water. Things look much better now and I am looking forward to a total Organic grow throughout the Bloom phase.

I broke my bloom phase in to two phases; ealy and late. In ealy Bloom I use the PBP and Topmax. For late bloom I use aga9n Topmax, Budswell Bat guano and wrom castings and Indonesian Bat guano; high phosphuros for enhanced fruiting. I finish up with plain water and usualy ro water and dark for 3-7 days, depending on the strain.

I have already tasted the difference in my smoke using this new nutrient package. Improved taste in aeroponic hydro.

The PBP is still going to be trial and error process until I get it better understood.

God Luck.

Avid

I picked up some Sweet and Hydroplex today for a little whirl around the yard.

Organic Advanced Nutreints was on the shelf as well

Tex

THCAESAR said:

Question about the pure blend pro "Soil" blend.... I accidentally bought a bottle of this stuff instead of the bloom. Will I be able to use it as my base nute sauce? or should I probably go buy a bottle of that now too?

THC

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no you are fine...the only difference is that the soil formula has more phosphorus in it...something about how the micros in the soil feed off of phos. Alot of hydro growers switch to the soil formula in the end just to boost the phos a bit.

Very nice everyone !

Very nice everyone !

I rescently saw that Botanicare (PBP) has come out with "Sweet" & wonder if it is similar to the EJ catalyst i often use in flowering. Once some of you start using it i'd love to hear your feedback. Peace all & have a nice weekend 3ld
this burmese loves her PBP diet...fuels the frost