Zamal Hash - first indoor grow
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Thanks Dion for the compliment.
I think the gnats migrated and laid eggs in my worm castings which I used in the top soil mix along with BioBizz lightmix(which is sterile no doubt). I have a mini bio dumpster(gnat magnet) one meter from my worm castings, the bag was not properly closed I noticed later.
So it was a consequence of a mistake I made, not a matter of soil.
HBGE, you said 60 days only? That's fairly quick for a cross like this, but looking at my lady it well may be this way. Good to hear your reveg attempt was successful, did you reveg the main stem with roots or took a clone from a flowering plant?
I took some clones but they don't look good, are struggling at reveg.
If I have the space, I'll try reveg the stem of this seed plant and put it outdoors in may.
That's many "if-s".
Next week I'll build a small veg box for the second round, just thinking which seeds to pop. I'm tempted with the Ace fem mix, or it could be some fems I already have, not by Ace.
Hard to decide, just as always.
I think the gnats migrated and laid eggs in my worm castings which I used in the top soil mix along with BioBizz lightmix(which is sterile no doubt). I have a mini bio dumpster(gnat magnet) one meter from my worm castings, the bag was not properly closed I noticed later.
So it was a consequence of a mistake I made, not a matter of soil.
HBGE, you said 60 days only? That's fairly quick for a cross like this, but looking at my lady it well may be this way. Good to hear your reveg attempt was successful, did you reveg the main stem with roots or took a clone from a flowering plant?
I took some clones but they don't look good, are struggling at reveg.
If I have the space, I'll try reveg the stem of this seed plant and put it outdoors in may.
That's many "if-s".
Next week I'll build a small veg box for the second round, just thinking which seeds to pop. I'm tempted with the Ace fem mix, or it could be some fems I already have, not by Ace.
Hard to decide, just as always.
HerBnGorE(illa)
Member
Koondense. It was a reveg of the main stem.
...and I agree, seemed unbelievably fast for what it is. Mind u, I could have let it go another week, but it was definitely the opening of the harvest window. Once this first round of clones finishes in a few more weeks Iwill have more of an idea of what this plant is all about. So far, I'm impressed.
...and I agree, seemed unbelievably fast for what it is. Mind u, I could have let it go another week, but it was definitely the opening of the harvest window. Once this first round of clones finishes in a few more weeks Iwill have more of an idea of what this plant is all about. So far, I'm impressed.
Today is 52nd day of 12/12
Nothing in particular is happening except the smell is increasing and trichome production is amazing at this period. Also buds are swelling of course
I assume both Zamal Hash plants will have a similar harvest window, I suspect will be open at around 65 days. The Bunny(seed plant) looks amazing and could be already chopped but let's not rush.
Cognition is of course stil behind, only now some stigmas on the main colas are starting to turn orange. The plant has many imbalances but takes them without much complaining, I tied the main branches so they won't lay down because of the weight.
Checked the trichomes on Zamal Hash 'Bunny' plant with a lens and most are still clear, very few are cloudy. The smell is gorgeous, lemon peel with pine spicyness. I love it.
Otherwise doesn't smell much until you touch it.
Tried making some photos, here's the only one I would put on a calendar
The next phase if my indoor experiments just started, I put to soak four seeds of RQS Power Flower. But that's another story.
Would love to try the new Snow Moon, maybe some other time.
Nothing in particular is happening except the smell is increasing and trichome production is amazing at this period. Also buds are swelling of course
I assume both Zamal Hash plants will have a similar harvest window, I suspect will be open at around 65 days. The Bunny(seed plant) looks amazing and could be already chopped but let's not rush.
Cognition is of course stil behind, only now some stigmas on the main colas are starting to turn orange. The plant has many imbalances but takes them without much complaining, I tied the main branches so they won't lay down because of the weight.
Checked the trichomes on Zamal Hash 'Bunny' plant with a lens and most are still clear, very few are cloudy. The smell is gorgeous, lemon peel with pine spicyness. I love it.
Otherwise doesn't smell much until you touch it.
Tried making some photos, here's the only one I would put on a calendar
The next phase if my indoor experiments just started, I put to soak four seeds of RQS Power Flower. But that's another story.
Would love to try the new Snow Moon, maybe some other time.
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Beatiful Zamal Hash Koondense
Love the contrast between the high flower/leaf ratio with very long african sativa pistils and the resinous hashplant ovaries
I think they will be ready in 2 weeks or maybe lesser.
Bio Bizz fertilizers are soft, but good quality. I've been using them for almost 15 years (mainly Algamic, Bio Grow and Bio Bloom, sometimes Fish Mix too).
I like the natural taste and natural vibe that they provide to the final product.
Bio Bizz organic line is not strong, so it's important to prepare a rich soil with high quality peat, worm casting and guano as a base, then correct the slight deficiencies in late veg and flowering with a bit of fertilizer.
Anyway, lesser is more when talking about fertilizers, especially if the main point grow is to harvest healthy and tasty flowers with the best natural vibe.
Good vibes!
Love the contrast between the high flower/leaf ratio with very long african sativa pistils and the resinous hashplant ovaries
I think they will be ready in 2 weeks or maybe lesser.Bio Bizz fertilizers are soft, but good quality. I've been using them for almost 15 years (mainly Algamic, Bio Grow and Bio Bloom, sometimes Fish Mix too).
I like the natural taste and natural vibe that they provide to the final product.
Bio Bizz organic line is not strong, so it's important to prepare a rich soil with high quality peat, worm casting and guano as a base, then correct the slight deficiencies in late veg and flowering with a bit of fertilizer.
Anyway, lesser is more when talking about fertilizers, especially if the main point grow is to harvest healthy and tasty flowers with the best natural vibe.
Good vibes!
Hi Dubi,
seems my soil mix was lighter than expected and I underestimated the plant's need for nutrients at the period before the switch. Used only Bloom and Grow after few weeks in flowering when I noticed the yellowing. Couldn't recover the plants as fast so it led to loosing some fans on both ZHs, also Cognition was affected and reacted quite differently.
My observation was the ZHs showed loss/gain of green more dramatically while Cognition was more gradual and slower to respond to feeding. The consequence is it now has yellow leaves with burned dying tips. I was thinking of defoliation but prefer to leave them until total fading.
For the next run the soil mix will be stronger although I had in mind to try a light mix and adding only liquids. It's hard to decide between such different approaches.
seems my soil mix was lighter than expected and I underestimated the plant's need for nutrients at the period before the switch. Used only Bloom and Grow after few weeks in flowering when I noticed the yellowing. Couldn't recover the plants as fast so it led to loosing some fans on both ZHs, also Cognition was affected and reacted quite differently.
My observation was the ZHs showed loss/gain of green more dramatically while Cognition was more gradual and slower to respond to feeding. The consequence is it now has yellow leaves with burned dying tips. I was thinking of defoliation but prefer to leave them until total fading.
For the next run the soil mix will be stronger although I had in mind to try a light mix and adding only liquids. It's hard to decide between such different approaches.
jay sus
Well-known member
again. my both zamal hash plants did the exact same thing, also my 1 zamal reunion. they had yellowing leaves, from bottom up, all the way to the top. kali china for example which had similar growth habit did not. same feed, same soil mix, so it has to be ZH trait, so i would not think too much about it.
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Interesting indeed jay sus. Thanks for the comment(again).
Hopefully this trait won't pass to the next generation of seeds made with the KC father.
My concern would be the outdoors, I think yellowing and dying fans only increase the chance for molds if grown in a gierrilla environment. Strangely I didn't notice such yellowing with my ZH mother, or maybe I wasn't aware at the time.
I'll see how the ZH clone will respond, if it will behave the same way in the next cycle.
Hopefully this trait won't pass to the next generation of seeds made with the KC father.
My concern would be the outdoors, I think yellowing and dying fans only increase the chance for molds if grown in a gierrilla environment. Strangely I didn't notice such yellowing with my ZH mother, or maybe I wasn't aware at the time.
I'll see how the ZH clone will respond, if it will behave the same way in the next cycle.
Nice read, Thanks for the thread! Peace
Hey kono,
yeah they are good looking but my inner voice is always telling me I could take better care of them.
Especially with putting them in a better mix for start.
Now the gnats are pretty ridiculous, the yellow glue traps work perfectly, what a great invention
Farmerlion, you're very welcome.
Siever, it's hard for me at this stage of inexperience with indoor growing to figure out if it's a deficency or a trait. I don't recall it happening like this outdoors, so I was thinking it must be the lack of nutrition.
I take in account your and jay sus's word and take it as a trait, it surely sounds somehow comforting
Thanks for the comment.
yeah they are good looking but my inner voice is always telling me I could take better care of them.
Especially with putting them in a better mix for start.
Now the gnats are pretty ridiculous, the yellow glue traps work perfectly, what a great invention
Farmerlion, you're very welcome.
Siever, it's hard for me at this stage of inexperience with indoor growing to figure out if it's a deficency or a trait. I don't recall it happening like this outdoors, so I was thinking it must be the lack of nutrition.
I take in account your and jay sus's word and take it as a trait, it surely sounds somehow comforting
Thanks for the comment.
Day 57 of 12/12
Both Zamal Hash plants are reaching maturity, I checked Bunny's trichs and noticed a fair mix of clear, clowdy and amber. Maybe too much amber for my taste, I was hoping for mianly cloudy trichs and a more gradual transition towards amber ones. Hopefully it won't impact the high too much with couchlock
A few budshots of ZHs:
Bunny's top cola above the lights
The usual branch
ZH clone, one of the colas
I was thinking of feeding today for the last time with only bloom fertilizer and harvest in a week time or max 10 days. Only water from tomorrow on until a few days before harvest.
Does it sound ok or should I let them go for more time?
Both Zamal Hash plants are reaching maturity, I checked Bunny's trichs and noticed a fair mix of clear, clowdy and amber. Maybe too much amber for my taste, I was hoping for mianly cloudy trichs and a more gradual transition towards amber ones. Hopefully it won't impact the high too much with couchlock
A few budshots of ZHs:
Bunny's top cola above the lights
The usual branch
ZH clone, one of the colas
I was thinking of feeding today for the last time with only bloom fertilizer and harvest in a week time or max 10 days. Only water from tomorrow on until a few days before harvest.
Does it sound ok or should I let them go for more time?
HerBnGorE(illa)
Member
Such a lovely strain!! And super fast!! Especially for the quality of the smoke! Glad I got in on this limited release!!
By the sound of it, your chop timeline sounds appropriate. Nice growing!!
By the sound of it, your chop timeline sounds appropriate. Nice growing!!
Good question Dion, I asked it to myself many times when looking in the tent.
Obviously it's impossible to make a fair judgment because of so much differences and variables.
But what I can observe is for sure more resin and tighter look of the buds. For example the cola structure of Cognition is swelling far more than outdoors which is also consequence of more stable temperatures and photoperiod indoors. Another thing I think is they need more nutrients because of more light and so hopefully develop a big yield too.
The smell department is more intense when I thouch the resin glands, also the ZH clone is more oily than outdoors.
So my temporary comment on this would be classic - more resin and terpene production, more yield.
Obviously it's impossible to make a fair judgment because of so much differences and variables.
But what I can observe is for sure more resin and tighter look of the buds. For example the cola structure of Cognition is swelling far more than outdoors which is also consequence of more stable temperatures and photoperiod indoors. Another thing I think is they need more nutrients because of more light and so hopefully develop a big yield too.
The smell department is more intense when I thouch the resin glands, also the ZH clone is more oily than outdoors.
So my temporary comment on this would be classic - more resin and terpene production, more yield.
jikko77
Active member
quindi una miglior resa sotto i cob? bel ciclo, grazie per aver condiviso.
jikko77
Active member
Who knows? Gotta chop them first.
Il bello deve ancora venire
Il prossimo ciclo inizia presto, RQS Power Flowers, Zamal Hash bunny + Paki-Dane sotto i led.
Buon weekend
i'm looking forward to follow the next grow as well
in bocca al lupo! e che il verde sia con te
Small update @day 62 of 12/12
Probably this week the ZH "Bunny" will be harvested, the clone will take few days more it seems.
There are still new white hairs pushing from some calyxes, so maybe 70 days will be enough.
As said, I'm not a fan of couch lock, early harvest is better than late harvest for my taste.
Zamal Hash clone
Zamal Hash Bunny - branch
Cognition
The new cycle started, all seeds popped and most are above ground and growing nicely.
I have
4x Power Flower (fem)
2x Paki-Dane (fem)
1x Zamal Hash bunny - clone
2x Bangi x Satori (reg)
2x Satori (reg)
The reg beans will share a pot for each cross, others will probably get 11l pots and a good soil, probably Plagron Bat or BioBizz Allmix.
I'll open another thread for the new cycle and post progress of the Bunny ZH in this thread.
Any comments on harvesting are welcome
Cheers
Probably this week the ZH "Bunny" will be harvested, the clone will take few days more it seems.
There are still new white hairs pushing from some calyxes, so maybe 70 days will be enough.
As said, I'm not a fan of couch lock, early harvest is better than late harvest for my taste.
Zamal Hash clone
Zamal Hash Bunny - branch
Cognition
The new cycle started, all seeds popped and most are above ground and growing nicely.
I have
4x Power Flower (fem)
2x Paki-Dane (fem)
1x Zamal Hash bunny - clone
2x Bangi x Satori (reg)
2x Satori (reg)
The reg beans will share a pot for each cross, others will probably get 11l pots and a good soil, probably Plagron Bat or BioBizz Allmix.
I'll open another thread for the new cycle and post progress of the Bunny ZH in this thread.
Any comments on harvesting are welcome
Cheers
