Depends on spacing and intensity. 1 cfl per plant would certainly be more safe. Put them on a timer and get them near a 16/8 light cycle matching timer to sunlight naturally. Do this all gradually, 15 or 30 minute cut back per day until matched up nice and pull them, should be 100% good. The more stressed the ladies are the higher chance they have to flip.
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Zack's Patch 2016
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Depends on spacing and intensity. 1 cfl per plant would certainly be more safe. Put them on a timer and get them near a 16/8 light cycle matching timer to sunlight naturally. Do this all gradually, 15 or 30 minute cut back per day until matched up nice and pull them, should be 100% good. The more stressed the ladies are the higher chance they have to flip.
20sackzack
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Yeah they've been on 16/8. I put cfl on a timer in the ghetto tent thing I built and I have been moving them in there every night. They haven't shown signs of flowering yet so it seems to be working.
The light kicks on at dusk and extends the day a bit then turns off and then back on a bit before sunrise
I guess my issue is the shelter I built contains the light pretty well. Not sure how obvious it would be if the lights were out in the open. My garden is hidden from view but I do have neighbors fairly close. It probably wouldn't be too big of a deal especially as the daylight gets longer
The light kicks on at dusk and extends the day a bit then turns off and then back on a bit before sunrise
I guess my issue is the shelter I built contains the light pretty well. Not sure how obvious it would be if the lights were out in the open. My garden is hidden from view but I do have neighbors fairly close. It probably wouldn't be too big of a deal especially as the daylight gets longer
I like the pots you built, zack. Low cost and effective.
I wish I knew what to tell you about the leaf damage, but I think I agree with barski in that you might want to transplant those girls asap. The damage almost looks fungal. Maybe check the soil moisture/pH before you do anything else?
Best of luck to you, zack. I hope you kill it.
HB.
I wish I knew what to tell you about the leaf damage, but I think I agree with barski in that you might want to transplant those girls asap. The damage almost looks fungal. Maybe check the soil moisture/pH before you do anything else?
Best of luck to you, zack. I hope you kill it.
HB.
20sackzack
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Thanks for your input hemphrey, I really appreciate the help! I think I'm going to get some cheap rope to wrap around the pots a few times for support. Definitely dont want them blowing out later on
I had some pm show up a few weeks ago because of the cool wet weather we were having. I did a couple actinovate root drenches and foliars. I also sprayed them with organic neem oil a few times possibly a little too heavy on the last time. Can neem oil burn plants?
I have been trying to keep them more under watered than over watered. I dont have a ph meter but I know my tap water is fairly neutral and my medium shouldn't be very far off either
Now were supposed to get some rain tonight and tomorrow so I probably won't be transplanting... right now I cant think of a way to keep the lights dry
I was going to ask if you sprayed anything. Neem can definitely burn plants. They look great otherwise...way bigger than my starts for sure.
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if you buy some hay or alfalfa to use as mulch you could use the bailing rope that comes with it to hold some pots.
whats the ratios you were using on your cootz mix?
20sackzack
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Thanks for the idea, I like recycling when I can. I actually already picked up some twine and a bail of Timothy grass because it was the only organic straw at the feed store. It's got a lot of seeds but I dont think that should matter because I'm doing a living mulch already
I started wrapping my pots yesterday but I had other shit to do and it started pouring. Thunder, lightning, hail and huge droplets of rain, it was intense for a minute. I'll probably finish wrapping em today but its supposed to rain again later
Not totally sure what you mean by ratios but I'll post my ingredients. Btw I started my clones in black gold in little 4x4 pots. After a week I transplanted into 2 gallon pots in a mix of the black gold and the cootz I made. I was thinking this would help transition them easier but maybe its the reason im seeing problems
So my soilless mix consists of:
Humus ~ 120 gal or 16 cuft
1/5 yard oly mountain
1/5 yard stutzman chicken compost
1/5 yard "heritage" castings
Aeration ~ 120 gal or 16 cuft
2/5 yard crushed red pumice
1/5 yard rice hull
(I picked up all of the above ingredients at rare earth, its only like 15 minutes away
)
Peat ~ 120 gal or 16 cuft
Premier cspm. The bails are compressed listed at 3 cuft but expanded to a bit more than 5 cuft. I used 3 bails which I pre-moistened with water and yucca
So this gave me a little over a yard and a half base.
I decided to use buildasoils cc style nutrient pack to save myself the hassle of finding all the additives on their own. Each large box is recommended for 9 cuft or 1/3 yard. So I decided 5 boxes would be approximately the right amount. Hopefully I was correct lol
And there you have it. I first mixed the compost and aeration together because thats what I got first. Then I moistened the peat with yucca to combat its hydrophobic tendencies. After wetting the peat I mixed it in with my pile. I then spread the dry nutrients on top and mixed mixed mixed. This has been sitting for a couple months now so it should be good to go. Let me know if anyone sees anything wrong with my mix
Ps I think im going to transplant tomorrow after the rain stops
I started wrapping my pots yesterday but I had other shit to do and it started pouring. Thunder, lightning, hail and huge droplets of rain, it was intense for a minute. I'll probably finish wrapping em today but its supposed to rain again later
Not totally sure what you mean by ratios but I'll post my ingredients. Btw I started my clones in black gold in little 4x4 pots. After a week I transplanted into 2 gallon pots in a mix of the black gold and the cootz I made. I was thinking this would help transition them easier but maybe its the reason im seeing problems
So my soilless mix consists of:
Humus ~ 120 gal or 16 cuft
1/5 yard oly mountain
1/5 yard stutzman chicken compost
1/5 yard "heritage" castings
Aeration ~ 120 gal or 16 cuft
2/5 yard crushed red pumice
1/5 yard rice hull
(I picked up all of the above ingredients at rare earth, its only like 15 minutes away
)Peat ~ 120 gal or 16 cuft
Premier cspm. The bails are compressed listed at 3 cuft but expanded to a bit more than 5 cuft. I used 3 bails which I pre-moistened with water and yucca
So this gave me a little over a yard and a half base.
I decided to use buildasoils cc style nutrient pack to save myself the hassle of finding all the additives on their own. Each large box is recommended for 9 cuft or 1/3 yard. So I decided 5 boxes would be approximately the right amount. Hopefully I was correct lol
And there you have it. I first mixed the compost and aeration together because thats what I got first. Then I moistened the peat with yucca to combat its hydrophobic tendencies. After wetting the peat I mixed it in with my pile. I then spread the dry nutrients on top and mixed mixed mixed. This has been sitting for a couple months now so it should be good to go. Let me know if anyone sees anything wrong with my mix
Ps I think im going to transplant tomorrow after the rain stops
thanks for the detailed response! i love rare earth, i have used their south fork cootz mix and had amazing results. i like your approach to cootz mix, more cost effective in my opinion than buying the pre mixed cootz.
another question i have is how much cover seed did you use for how many pots? im new to the idea of using cover seed and believe it might be a good year for me to start.
http://buildasoil.com/products/clover-cover-crop-blend-13-seed-buildasoil-mix-40-clover
heres the seed i found i presume you were talking about earlier
another question i have is how much cover seed did you use for how many pots? im new to the idea of using cover seed and believe it might be a good year for me to start.
http://buildasoil.com/products/clover-cover-crop-blend-13-seed-buildasoil-mix-40-clover
heres the seed i found i presume you were talking about earlier
20sackzack
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Yup thats it. I used half a pound on my pots and it seemed like a good amount for my application. Im thinking about buying another half pound to sprinkle around the outside of the pots. Probably overkill though
wh1t3w1dow1
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sub'd, good luck. does the cover grow the whole season or does it die back and then act as a mulch?
20sackzack
Member
Thanks, good luck to u too! It should do both hopefully. This is my first time trying it out
20sackzack
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Made some good progress over the weekend. Got my pots wrapped, mulched and plugged. It feels really good to have them in their homes finally 
OrganicDisciple
Member
Lookin good
20sackzack
Member
Thanks bro, your spots looking great too
OrganicDisciple
Member
Thank you sir
Looks great zack
20sackzack
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Thanks Noonin, are you doing a thread this year?
Plants are diggin their new homes and this warm weather. I'll take down the supplemental lighting in another week.
Still need to get cages but I dont really want to buy a huge roll of fencing just to use some of it.
Gotta figure out some kind of support soon though
Kosher kush
DrGreenthumb333
Member
Damn Zack I stepped ur game up this year!! Things are looking great man, I'm looking forward to seeing how things turn out, what are u gonna do for plant support??
DrGreenthumb333
Member
Ahh I shoulda read!! I was reading thru the thread after my post and seen u said you might do cages, you should run them fur initial inside support, or at least something similar, trellis and t posts, rebar etc. for the end of the year. That will save u headache at throughout the season, As a matter of fact I just bought a roll of concrete remesh at home depot the other week 150'x60'' it was 102 out the door or something and those 6''x 6'' openings wayy nicer that the 2''x 4'' openings on the welded wire cage, works just as well besides that imo. But you can buy the roll now use it for this year's and if u I ever decide to do more plants or need to replace an existing one for whatever reason you will have it on hand. Anyways man I better quit rambling I got another hour of daylight to work on getting my plants plugged in, so I better get to it!! Keep up the great work 20 sack ur doing awesome.
