Yup, BUSTED!

[maryjanesdad]

having an unregistered weapon isn't even THAT big of a deal. It was kept separate enough from the grow that he could easily claim someone must have left it at his house or he could say he found it or all kinds of things to get out of a weapons charge. If you are growing 85 plants, you got to have your monologue ready for when the popo show. There should be something on the inside of your door so you can read it word for word and there should be something in your wallet you can use as a cue card. There are specific statements you can make which pretty much dead any further questioning. One of those statements is "I want my lawyer". If you claim this to an officer at the precinct and they continue to ask you questions it is harrassment and battery and anything else they obtain as info in inadmissable in court.

The best thing you could have done was handle it at the site where you were stopped. By the time you were at the station they knew they had something besides your pipe. If only you could have sworn you smoke fat bowls all day everyday you could have been safe.

dude, listen talk to me when you have a unregistered pistol (with god knows how many bodies) on it and your at the preceint waiting for them to get a search warrant...playing tough is cool, but you gotta know when to fold em.

 

[HawaiianPunch]

I went to jail for 5 days on an unregistered weapon in my trunk (with a box of hollow tips) and an empty bottle of tequila in my backseat. No DUI, no sobriety test, no charges files. Just 5 days in jail. Car impounded. Fuckin' holiday+long weekend.

Pythaglio, you may think you are slick answering an officer this way. AND you would have been one smooth cat maybe 10 years ago. We are living in a country, no excuse me, a world at war. You answer an officer like that when they say something like "what a beautiful day" and they are actually supposed to make a report about the incident. Observation and surveilance are big right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the officer's response was "Have you ever been arrested/are you on probation?" next. If the answer is no/no then you should be left alone. Otherwise, be prepared to get fucked with.

 

[maryjanesdad]

the best part about this is i got caught when i did. i had a 6 month lease and i was going to have 6 trays blooming (150 plants) @12 zips per tray (4.5 lbs of super skunk) i was going to blow the house up with weed. and like i said, if these coppers were robocops, they would have waited (they knew from the LL that i just moved in) and...id be FUCKED a lot worse

 

[HawaiianPunch]

yea, all and all you didn't make out so bad. Definately helped to articulate the importance of odor controls. Also, my guess is you live in a state with no medical mj or you are not registered?

 

[Ajunta Pall]

Also, they didn't want to bust you. They stopped you down the street from your house so you could say "Yo I smoke all day out that pipe, what you gonna give me a ticket?" When you started trying to cover up your tracks they knew there must be something else. Anyone who asks for their lawyer is guilty of something. Innocent people tell the truth.

you watch way too much tv, HP. In the real world exercising your rights can not be used against you. Asking for your lawyer can not be construed as hiding your guilt. The pigs may try to make you feel like that, but fuck them, they ain't looking out for your best interest. Also, firearms found at grows, even a legally registered one will get you in serious trouble. The pigs will just assume you are a violent criminal who will use your weapons to protect your illegal enterprise.

No matter what the pigs wanted to get in dude's house, and they weren't taking no as an answer. MJs Dad played it right and now only has misdemeanors to deal with. Maybe he could go outdoors and guerilla grow this season.

Whatever you do now MJs Dad, all the best to you.

 

[Maj.PotHead]

just curious how the vehicle search happened. did they ask for consent, or just do it? the consenting for the basement search was probably a smart move on your part. an unregistered gun if found would have made things much worse. good luck with the rest.

as a side note, that many vegging plants will put off an odor of their own and may possibly be considered pungent to someone who hasn't ever smelled real pungent flowering plants!

as a side note, that many vegging plants will put off an odor of their own and may possibly be considered pungent to someone who hasn't ever smelled real pungent flowering plants!

sooooo very true

 

[somedaysoon]

Never Ever Ever Keep any firearms in a vicinity where there is a grow unless it's a legal med grow and your residence..
Even then it's still a Federal offense as the feds do not allow nor recognize the lawful manufacture of MJ as everybody already knows.

Guns and any illegal manufactured substance do NOT go together unless you're a complete fucking idiot!


Heed those words friend!

They'll save you years of freedom

 

[h^2 O]

how did they smell it if your plants weren't budding? maybe your landlord came into your place without your knowledge and found the grow.

yup that's what's i'd say. SOme landlords like to really explore the lives of their tenants...video cameras, etc. They love the "we have to stop by and fix the lights in each room" or whatever, so they can inspect the rooms.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Wow crazy thread, glad i learned about ACOD i neeed to try that on my upcoming trial for vandalism.

Other than that, i own a handgun but its legally registered, i live in a bad neighborhood and am worried about people breaking in so i have this.

Having an illegal weapon is pretty fucking stupid tho, what are you gonna do go pull a drive by?

 

[SpacedCWBY]

I watched a news show exploring the idea of firearms for personal protection. Wasn't pro nor was it con for guns, just an exploration. Something like 90% of the people who carry weapons for personal protection, with the exception of the pigs, will not be able to effectively use the weapon when faced with a threatening situation. Crazy statistic, but true.

You want your grow house safe get two great danes with docked and cropped ears. That will keep 99% of thieves away. The only thing good that I have to say about guns is that they're wonderful for killing some food and that's about it. Other than that I don't really think that they have much of a place in the homes of everyday people. I say that and I grew up in a house where every room had a 22 rifle by the window for picking off squirrels and coyotes.

You brits might be able to chime in on this one - don't your cops even have to get permission to get out their weapons let alone the average joe-blow owning a gun?

 

[h^2 O]

best deterent of all would be a little chandelier made from chicken bones...like wind chimes. And get a bird cage and try to glue together a chicken skeleton and put it inside the cage and hang the cage next to your front door.
Would YOU go in that house? No fuckin way

 

[whodi]

registered gun or not, doesn't matter.. sure a gun that isn't registered is bad but i don't think it matters too much in court. Gun is a gun and if it's around 'criminal activity' then you get a worse punishment.

 

[Python]

never sign the warrant...........ever .......If you have to sign it then they couldn't get it......or at least not until after you were released ---- but either way it was smart as you had lightweight youngins and only caught the misdemeanor charge..........

Second thing: dude once said if you need a gun to do the deal ---- dont do the deal ----- and with 9 lights that is what you were doing.....

Thirdly --- the cops deroot the plants and weight the leaves/buds thats why you had such a light weight and hence the M4 not a felony

Lastly ---- you might want to lawyer up as fast as possible because you never know, the detectives could essentially hit you with a felony conspiracy charge even after the fact ----- but prob not since you have already been charged w/ the M4 but I would be scared.....that's all i'm saying

Either way.....jail definitely unlikely but I wouldn't plan on smoking for about 5 years ----then you could try again and be able to smell it

Question --- what does one light equal?







Answer = A scrubber



Good Luck

 

[maryjanesdad]

never sign the warrant...........ever .......If you have to sign it then they couldn't get it......or at least not until after you were released ---- but either way it was smart as you had lightweight youngins and only caught the misdemeanor charge..........

Second thing: dude once said if you need a gun to do the deal ---- dont do the deal ----- and with 9 lights that is what you were doing.....

Thirdly --- the cops deroot the plants and weight the leaves/buds thats why you had such a light weight and hence the M4 not a felony

Lastly ---- you might want to lawyer up as fast as possible because you never know, the detectives could essentially hit you with a felony conspiracy charge even after the fact ----- but prob not since you have already been charged w/ the M4 but I would be scared.....that's all i'm saying

Either way.....jail definitely unlikely but I wouldn't plan on smoking for about 5 years ----then you could try again and be able to smell it

Question --- what does one light equal?







Answer = A scrubber



Good Luck

i spoke with my lawyer and he said due to the gun in the house, i saved myself a ton of trouble....hindsight is always 20/20. this is not some hick state where im kingpin number one, its a big city with many, many cases in the court system.

 

[h^2 O]

i will be posting a similar story in the next few days

 

[Python]

i spoke with my lawyer and he said due to the gun in the house, i saved myself a ton of trouble....hindsight is always 20/20. this is not some hick state where im kingpin number one, its a big city with many, many cases in the court system.

You did. And I applaud your common sense (or lack thereof for having an unregistered gun in the first place along with 9 lights in a house you rent but that's beside the point and i'm not trying to flame....have to say that though)

-----But there is something to be said about saving one's self ALL the trouble..........that's what my point is ------ ask your lawyer if he would have signed a warrant they were having trouble getting --- He'll say no or he is lying or an idiot

GL --- plead no contest

 

[whodair]

MJD

do you think it was the landlord? my theory: someone ratted you out, not enough evidence for a warrant, scare you into letting them in...

sucks, but you'll be fine I can tell

 

[michocan]

yes, unless you live in cannada or the UK
we like our guns in the states, I am a member on the montrose beer and gun club, we also like our beer, well, maybe not as much as some euro trash

 

[79towncar]

Ahh all I can say is goodluck. Get the best attorney you can afford. Take it easy

 

[maryjanesdad]

You did. And I applaud your common sense (or lack thereof for having an unregistered gun in the first place along with 9 lights in a house you rent but that's beside the point and i'm not trying to flame....have to say that though)

-----But there is something to be said about saving one's self ALL the trouble..........that's what my point is ------ ask your lawyer if he would have signed a warrant they were having trouble getting --- He'll say no or he is lying or an idiot

GL --- plead no contest

who said they were having trouble getting a warrant? Remember, my landlord went down to the preceint and made a report out to them, Landlord comes to my house with his workers and a detective posing as a worker. the Detective smelled for himself (upstairs, i didn't let him in)....landlords statement is what really killed me. if he didn't make that statement, it would have been more difficult to obtain the warrant. Hey man, if you have a unregistered, dirty gun with ammo and you make them get the warrant, rest assured they will tear through that house.

btw, 2 lawyers and my cop friend told me i saved myself a possible felony charge. not to forget if the gun had bodies on it. IMO and others, i did the right thing. getting a misdemeanor downgraded to a violation, a.c.o.d, etc is one thing, but downgrading a felony to a misdemeanor is not as convenient


all in all, if i didnt have the weapon there i would have probably sat and waited.