NBtrichgrower
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I mainly strained it so it wouldn't clog my sprayer, as there was a few chunks of soft gray matter that was attached to the silver pieces that fell off and was rather large
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Lord Doobie
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PhenoMenal, I've noticed you've removed some references to selfing in the initial post (It's still on another site). Was this because of being unsure about some hermie properties? It now looks like the methodology of female pollination should be done to another female plant rather to itself. Could you clear up the method of selfing? It now appears it's not recommended. Or did I miss something?
Thanks
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relief
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This worked great for me. 100% female rate so far! I got over a 100 white widow seeds, 100 haze x white widow cross seeds and over 200 white rhino seeds. The plants were small too. Sweet!
I would cut off a clump of ripe male flowers and put then in a small zip lock bag. Then I would thump the flowers while in the bag to release all the pollen. Then used a sterilized paint brush to apply to the females. So easy a caveman could do it.
Heres a shot of some of the seeds (these are going to a friend).
I would cut off a clump of ripe male flowers and put then in a small zip lock bag. Then I would thump the flowers while in the bag to release all the pollen. Then used a sterilized paint brush to apply to the females. So easy a caveman could do it.
Heres a shot of some of the seeds (these are going to a friend).
Lord Doobie, i'm constantly updating the initial post as things evolve and we learn more. In regards to selfing, yes you can just spray a female with CS to force it to develop pollen, allowing it to self-pollenate itself, though it's generally recommended you use a second female as the target if possible. If you do opt to self-pollenate a plant then allow it to flower for a couple of weeks before applying CS so as to allow it to develop some decent viable pistils, and I'd still recommend doing some manual pollenation as opposed to simply allowing it to naturally pollenate itself over time, as that'll help get the ball rolling sooner as well as result in more feminised seeds.
It is an interesting point because it allows you to create feminised seeds even if you only have 1 single female plant to work with, so I'll update the post to include some info regarding that.
It is an interesting point because it allows you to create feminised seeds even if you only have 1 single female plant to work with, so I'll update the post to include some info regarding that.
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hello guyz .
i am looking into this about some time now ... and I decided I must try this .
and I got a 7.5 V transfm. and 2 pieces of silver .
And ofcourse, I am that dude that must do stuff wrong to test it out, so I just used some good silver, i'm Not sure it's 99.9 % .. and I am also using tap water .
the results are kinda weird ... at first, after 2-3 hours, the water is very very white, milk like water.
reading around I have seen solutions made in 24 hours .
SO i did just that . 24 hours of 'silvering' water . but after some time, after 6-8 hours, it got BLACK'ish brown .
just wanna know if this is ok ?
and what could happen if the silver is not pure ??
i am looking into this about some time now ... and I decided I must try this .
and I got a 7.5 V transfm. and 2 pieces of silver .
And ofcourse, I am that dude that must do stuff wrong to test it out, so I just used some good silver, i'm Not sure it's 99.9 % .. and I am also using tap water .
the results are kinda weird ... at first, after 2-3 hours, the water is very very white, milk like water.
reading around I have seen solutions made in 24 hours .
SO i did just that . 24 hours of 'silvering' water . but after some time, after 6-8 hours, it got BLACK'ish brown .
just wanna know if this is ok ?
and what could happen if the silver is not pure ??
*slowly headbutts his keyboard ... repeatedly*
Both distilled water and pure silver are inexpensive and easy to obtain, and WE USE THEM FOR A REASON!!! Why make things as hard as possible on yourself???
You remind me of a friend of mine ... I gave him some seeds and some advice about what mediums to grow in ... instead he just went and bought some regular potting mix (with unknown NPK levels etc), and is now wondering why he isn't able to grow anything more than a month before it dies.
Making colloidal silver is the same - if it's not worth doing properly, it's not worth doing it at all. I thought I emphasised all this clearly enough on the first page!
If you want to waste your time and simply ruin a plant with ... whatever it is you're brewing! ... without getting any feminised pollen from it, then by all means go ahead ... just don't complain to me in two months
Nice thread PhenoMenal,
Do you or anybody else have any ideas about possible differences in the results, between the different chemicals or techniques used in these Femming methods, CS, STS, GA, Rolodexing etc ?
Could it just be some genetics do not take well to the process when others do ?
I have just got some STS from my local growshop, a badged product from a Spanish Seed Bank, I think it is sold "under the counter" to get around slightly stciky laws on dodgy chemicals, but is branded.
Do you or anybody else have any ideas about possible differences in the results, between the different chemicals or techniques used in these Femming methods, CS, STS, GA, Rolodexing etc ?
Could it just be some genetics do not take well to the process when others do ?
I have just got some STS from my local growshop, a badged product from a Spanish Seed Bank, I think it is sold "under the counter" to get around slightly stciky laws on dodgy chemicals, but is branded.
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eh, no problem . I almost have my 99 silver now and I will make it good this time .
But I still wonder if the brew is better or not with more metal elements inside . Wouldn't that trigger a more complex reaction on the plant, making it stress quicker ?
anyway, great great stuff man .
peace !
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eh, no problem . I almost have my 99 silver now and I will make it good this time
.But I still wonder if the brew is better or not with more metal elements inside . Wouldn't that trigger a more complex reaction on the plant, making it stress quicker ?
anyway, great great stuff man
.peace !
ChaosCatalunya,
No sorry I'm not aware of anybody that has done any comparative tests between CS, STS, GA etc, although the uni paper mentioned in the first post in this thread suggested they got better results from silver than GA.
vox,
You can get it on ebay, or from a coin dealer, or your local mint (where i got my coins). As long as it's rated .999 or .9999 that's all that matters.
Distilled water you'll find at any grocery store/supermarket, it's only a couple dollars and you'll only need one bottle.
So they're both inexpensive, both easy to obtain, and trust me it's worth it!
No sorry I'm not aware of anybody that has done any comparative tests between CS, STS, GA etc, although the uni paper mentioned in the first post in this thread suggested they got better results from silver than GA.
vox,
You can get it on ebay, or from a coin dealer, or your local mint (where i got my coins). As long as it's rated .999 or .9999 that's all that matters.Distilled water you'll find at any grocery store/supermarket, it's only a couple dollars and you'll only need one bottle.
So they're both inexpensive, both easy to obtain, and trust me it's worth it!
No - because we're actually not stressing the plant (and ideally we want to be using a stress-resistant female to begin with). We're specifically toying with its ethylene production - that's the direct result from the ionic silver. You won't get that effect if you use colloidal copper, for example (or whatever other crap is in your tap water - chlorides, fluorides, zinc etc!). It may even poison the plant.
Longhair
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Hello,
A Fantastic Thread! I've Always Wanted To Know How Seeds Were Feminized. Being Blind Makes It 1 Less Step For Me. I Have To Have Someone Come In & Check The Plants. Relying On Someone Else's Word Is A Crap Shot. I've Got 1 Person Shel (Best Friend) She Helps Me When I'm In ICM. She New Nothing About Pot Period. Since Her Help & Watching The Plants She's Learned Allot. I Can Take Her Word. Buts It Still Somebodies Word.
Now For My Question. OK Say You've Got 2 Females 1 Being Sprayed The Other Being Pollinated. Why Do You Need The 2nd Female? Why Cant The 1 Making The Pollen Be The 1 To Make The Seeds. You Only Waste 1 Plant.
Longhair
A Fantastic Thread! I've Always Wanted To Know How Seeds Were Feminized. Being Blind Makes It 1 Less Step For Me. I Have To Have Someone Come In & Check The Plants. Relying On Someone Else's Word Is A Crap Shot. I've Got 1 Person Shel (Best Friend) She Helps Me When I'm In ICM. She New Nothing About Pot Period. Since Her Help & Watching The Plants She's Learned Allot. I Can Take Her Word. Buts It Still Somebodies Word.
Now For My Question. OK Say You've Got 2 Females 1 Being Sprayed The Other Being Pollinated. Why Do You Need The 2nd Female? Why Cant The 1 Making The Pollen Be The 1 To Make The Seeds. You Only Waste 1 Plant.
Longhair
Lord Doobie
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Longhair, you can use only one plant...you don't need 2. It's called "selfing" because you're taking the plant's female pollen to itself. PhenoMenal was going to clear up this confusing part for us (I think..).
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Longhair, I can only imagine how difficult it must be growing when you're blind, but I take my hat off to you!
I updated the first page in regards to "selfing" the other week, allow me to copy it here for your convenience:
Self-pollenation: Creating feminised seeds from a single female
By creating feminised pollen on a female plant you can actually then use that pollen to pollenate itself (it naturally will to some extent, but manual extraction & pollenation would yield a better coverage). I'd allow the female to flower for a couple weeks (until some viable pistils have formed) before starting to apply CS so that you've got some decent targets to apply the pollen to.
This also happens in nature (for example when a plant is stressed or very old ie. rhodelization), where a female throws off some banana pods and some of it pollenates itself - it's something of a species survival mechanism I guess.
However, sex between TWO parties is the norm in life, so personally I'd always try to use a second (or more) female(s) to target with the feminised pollen, and only use self-pollenation if i didn't really have any other choice.
But maybe the selfed seeds would grow out even more clone-like? I'm not sure, i've always used a 2nd female.
Using a second female that is an identical clone of the CS'd plant would result in the same seeds as if it were selfed, but you'd probably get more seeds from it seeing as isn't under the duress of CS.
I updated the first page in regards to "selfing" the other week, allow me to copy it here for your convenience:
Self-pollenation: Creating feminised seeds from a single female
By creating feminised pollen on a female plant you can actually then use that pollen to pollenate itself (it naturally will to some extent, but manual extraction & pollenation would yield a better coverage). I'd allow the female to flower for a couple weeks (until some viable pistils have formed) before starting to apply CS so that you've got some decent targets to apply the pollen to.
This also happens in nature (for example when a plant is stressed or very old ie. rhodelization), where a female throws off some banana pods and some of it pollenates itself - it's something of a species survival mechanism I guess.
However, sex between TWO parties is the norm in life, so personally I'd always try to use a second (or more) female(s) to target with the feminised pollen, and only use self-pollenation if i didn't really have any other choice.
But maybe the selfed seeds would grow out even more clone-like? I'm not sure, i've always used a 2nd female.
Using a second female that is an identical clone of the CS'd plant would result in the same seeds as if it were selfed, but you'd probably get more seeds from it seeing as isn't under the duress of CS.
I'm pretty sure mine didn't work I had no clue that the early pollen could be non viable, I completely missed that. I pollinated the clone plant as soon as I could and the hairs were red the next day and it was most definitely fertilised in that sense, but I haven't seen or felt a single seed. I was in a rush to get rid of the herm as it had an insect problem. You never know though, harvest is soon so maybe 1 or 2 magic beans appear.
I had no clue that the early pollen could be non viable, I completely missed that. I pollinated the clone plant as soon as I could and the hairs were red the next day and it was most definitely fertilised in that sense, but I haven't seen or felt a single seed. I was in a rush to get rid of the herm as it had an insect problem. You never know though, harvest is soon so maybe 1 or 2 magic beans appear. 
relief wow freaking awsome...
here is my SSH coming along and my generator
i'm at 3rd week of 12/12 i haven't feed any bloom nutes because i red long time ago that from reg seedlings you'll get more males with higher nitrogen levels..so i thought it might help....
here is my SSH coming along and my generator
i'm at 3rd week of 12/12 i haven't feed any bloom nutes because i red long time ago that from reg seedlings you'll get more males with higher nitrogen levels..so i thought it might help....
Hey guys I am looking for a little bit of help. Here is the strain I have been looking into making seeds from Lowryder Easy Ryder AKA Lowryder #2 x AK47 <http://www.*******************.co.uk/lowryder-seeds/lowryder-easy-ryder-aka-lowryder-2-x-ak47/prod_442.html> a auto flowering strain. I’ve been doing my research on the web going to various websites looking to find the best strain that can deal with the stress from the seeding process. If anyone knows what plants are less likely to become a hermie under the colloidal silver method? I read that this method is organic for the plant, and puts less stress on the plant making it less likely to produce hermie seeds. I guess my question is what auto flowering strain will be more prone to producing healthy fem seeds. I know some strains are more fragile than others.
my goal with this is to have SoG auto in my hydro set up.
my goal with this is to have SoG auto in my hydro set up.
Cryoss,
That's the thing - we're not actually using stress to induce the pollen (like light poisoning and heat stressing does). We're using silver to specifically toy with the plants ethylene production, which is why you're far less likely to get hermies if you use CS as opposed to stressing methods, especially if you use a hardy plant.
However it goes without saying that whenever you do ANY breeding (whether it's of regular seeds, feminised seeds, or even your favorite apple tree) that you should look for the stronger, hardier plants to use as targets.
That's the thing - we're not actually using stress to induce the pollen (like light poisoning and heat stressing does). We're using silver to specifically toy with the plants ethylene production, which is why you're far less likely to get hermies if you use CS as opposed to stressing methods, especially if you use a hardy plant.
However it goes without saying that whenever you do ANY breeding (whether it's of regular seeds, feminised seeds, or even your favorite apple tree) that you should look for the stronger, hardier plants to use as targets.
hello again .
got my 999 proof silver coin ... it was so nice and bling, but now i have it in 2 parts, with holes . with my 7.5 V adaptor and some dis. water I made a strong brew, about 14 hours ... I could see shinny pieces of silver floating.. very nice .
And here comes the cool part . I can say that I have also tested this with some cheap old silver and the results are NOT the same .
I'm also going 12/12 and I can't wait to post some pictures with the results....i'm going to CS a cheese female from fanta seeds and try to pollinate some white russians, some lavender plants and some strawberryhaze .
yuppi !
peace !
got my 999 proof silver coin ... it was so nice and bling, but now i have it in 2 parts, with holes . with my 7.5 V adaptor and some dis. water I made a strong brew, about 14 hours ... I could see shinny pieces of silver floating.. very nice .
And here comes the cool part . I can say that I have also tested this with some cheap old silver and the results are NOT the same .
I'm also going 12/12 and I can't wait to post some pictures with the results....i'm going to CS a cheese female from fanta seeds and try to pollinate some white russians, some lavender plants and some strawberryhaze .
yuppi !
peace !
nice voxberry many crosses your doing hope to see your work bro good luck
